Who wants to buy an $800 HD DVD player...

[AcuDefTechGuy]

...Knowing that HD DVDs days are numbered?

http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=89598

And even @ that price, Onkyo still cannot internally decode DTS-MA!

 

[Halon451]

Oh, sign me the hell right up...

 

[Gimpy Ric]

At that price I'll take two, one for the bow, and one for the stern.

 

[GlocksRock]

at least it bitstreams DTS-HD MA... even though I've never seen that format on an HD DVD... it's hard enough for them to find enough space for TrueHD, I usually only see DD+

 

[mtrycrafts]

at least it bitstreams DTS-HD MA... even though I've never seen that format on an HD DVD... it's hard enough for them to find enough space for TrueHD, I usually only see DD+

If both of those formats are lossless, why is there a need to have two such formats on any disc? Loseless is lossless.

 

[allargon]

Ask Denon why they're charging $1k for a player with only HDMI out. Ask Denon and Marantz why they're charging $2k for a player with no Ethernet port.

Actually ask Integra why they're charging $1100 for a HD DVD player that is the same as the $800 Onkyo which is the same as the $500 Toshibas that still can't play Blu-Ray discs.

 

[GlocksRock]

If both of those formats are lossless, why is there a need to have two such formats on any disc? Loseless is lossless.

No need to have two losless formats on one disc, but DD+ isn't lossless. I'm just saying that I usually see only DD+ on HD DVDs since there isn't enough room for an uncompressed audio track. Although I have seen some blu ray discs with both TrueHD and PCM, and that to me makes no sense.

 

[tn001d]

There are bunch of HD-DVD with TrueHD on it, not all are DD+

 

[PhillyDan1969]

I thought TrueHD was mandatory on all HD-DVD???

 

[Jacksmyname]

There are bunch of HD-DVD with TrueHD on it, not all are DD+

Correct. DTD-MA is rare so far, but there are a few. Pan's Labrynth is one. In fact, Pan's, one of about 75 HD-DVD's I have, is probably the the best I've seen so far for PQ and SQ. Absolutely outstanding.
(My receiver is a Yamaha RX-V3800 which decodes all the audio codecs. I use an XA2 which can bitstream audio).