PS3 TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio?

[dnice555]

I have an onkyo 805 receiver which states it can decode dolby true hd, as well as dts hd master audio. The ps3 has the opton for bitsream output. I was under the impression bitstream passed along the uncompressed audio which the onkyo can decode. I through in x-men3 which has dts-hd master audio and spider man 3 which has dolby true hd. The result was dts-hd 6.1 which is wierd because I have a 5.1 setup and dolby digital 5.1. Any ideas?

 

[gus6464]

I have an onkyo 805 receiver which states it can decode dolby true hd, as well as dts hd master audio. The ps3 has the opton for bitsream output. I was under the impression bitstream passed along the uncompressed audio which the onkyo can decode. I through in x-men3 which has dts-hd master audio and spider man 3 which has dolby true hd. The result was dts-hd 6.1 which is wierd because I have a 5.1 setup and dolby digital 5.1. Any ideas?

The hdmi chip on the PS3 cannot bitstream the new high def codecs like TrueHD and DTS-HD/MA. You have to have to PS3 decode it internally and while it still cannot do DTS-HD/MA a firmware update for it is coming. So for right now you can enjoy TrueHD and Uncompressed PCM with your PS3 by setting it to LPCM. So if you were wanting for the TrueHD or DTS-HD light on your receiver to light up, sorry to say it will never happen as long as you have the PS3.

 

[GlocksRock]

gus is correct... dts is working with sony on getting internal decoding for dts-hd ma on the ps3, but still no word on when this will actually be deployed. The only thing the bitstream output on the ps3 is good for is if you use the opticla digital cable and want to output the bitstream of standard dolby digital and dts.

 

[Tom Andry]

I talked to a Sony rep as CES - said bitstreaming DTS-MA and TrueHD was never going to happen on the PS3. He said that DTS-MA decoding was possible but didn't know when or if it would happen.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I talked to a Sony rep as CES - said bitstreaming DTS-MA and TrueHD was never going to happen on the PS3. He said that DTS-MA decoding was possible but didn't know when or if it would happen.

DTS-MA is such a pain in the neck.

Did DTS pay Fox and New Line to put DTS-MA on their movies?

I recently notice Lions Gate using PCM on one of their movies, instead of the usual DTS-MA.

 

[GlocksRock]

I'm pretty positive the PS3 will eventually get DTS-HD MA decoding, but Sony is being very tight lipped about when. I just hate that we are all missing out on one of the main benefits of blu ray by not being able to enjoy losless audio on some discs that the only losless track is DTS-HD MA, and we can only get the core dts... which isn't bad, but it's not as good as it could/should be.

Tom, thanks for checking about that.

 

[obscbyclouds]

I really hope the LoTR Trilogy (thats New Line, correct?) will not have DTS-HD MA. Looking forward to the uncompressed audio for that. Well, it does look possible for the PS3 to at least decode MA and send it as PCM.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I really hope the LoTR Trilogy (thats New Line, correct?) will not have DTS-HD MA. Looking forward to the uncompressed audio for that. Well, it does look possible for the PS3 to at least decode MA and send it as PCM.

Yeah, I worry that LoTR (New Line) will also be DTS-MA!

There is still hope since Lions Gate just put a movie w/ PCM, instead of DTS-MA.

Panasonic said for a while that they could one day upgrade the DMP-BD10A with a firmware to decode DTS-MA. Guess what? After a while, they decided that it could Not be done!

When the Samsung BD-UP5000 first came into the scene, it was said to also decode DTS-MA internally. Then later, we found out that it could NOT. It could send bitstream only.

Now word has it that the new Denon DVD-3800BD will be able to decode DTS-MA internally. But we will see.

So apparently, DTS-MA is very difficult to incorporate.

To me, internal DTS-MA decoding requires a HARDWARE upgrade. I thought Bitstream was their best bet, but if they can't do that, I don't see how they can just make the PS3 decode DTS-MA internally.

For all the PS3 users' sake, hopefully I'm wrong!

 

[D.R. Payne]

Considering what the PS3 does with folding@home and such, I find it hard to believe that they won't be able to get internal dts-ma decoding to work, especially if DTS is working with them. The type of "vector" operations the SPEs are good at seems very well suited to working with audio data.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Considering what the PS3 does with folding@home and such, I find it hard to believe that they won't be able to get internal dts-ma decoding to work, especially if DTS is working with them. The type of "vector" operations the SPEs are good at seems very well suited to working with audio data.

Well, maybe the PS3 has one really sophisticated and expsensive chip that neither the Panasonic DMP-BD10A nor the NOT-YET-RELEASE Samsung BD-UP5000 has. The Panasonic can internally decode DTS-HD HR 7.1 and output that via the 7.1 Analog outputs. You would think that if they can ALREADY decode DTS-HD HR 7.1, that it would be EASY for them to upgrade to DTS-HD MA, but Nooooooooo. Not so fast.

But check this out. Even Sony's brand new $1,300 HDMI 1.3 BD player, the BDP-S2000ES, canNOT internally decode DTS-MA!!!

Hmmmmm. If their Top-of-the-line $1,300 BD player cannot internally decode DTS-MA, I would be SHOCKED if their $500 PS3 can!

Looks like the $409 Panasonic DMP-BD30 can send DTS-MA bitstream, but not internally decode DTS-MA.

 

[avaserfi]

Acudefguy you seem very confused - price does not always directly correlate with quality.

• It should be realized there are certain obstacles with the PS3's price such as it used to cost about $900 to manufacture, but Sony subsidized much of the price to sell them. Only recently has Sony started making money on each unit sold now that the 40gb units cost only $400 to produce.
  
• Also, PS3 clusters are being used as a supercomputer by Nasa - why spend millions when you can buy a bunch of video game systems that do the same thing?
  
• Hackers have been buying PS3 simply because of their brute power. They can brute force hundreds of times faster than a typical computer.
  
• Not long after folding at home was introduced the PS3 overtook computers life long contribution to the study - in less than a year.
  
• A more direct comparison look at PS3 load times compared to ever other player on the market. Sheer power allows this nothing else.

These are just a few of the examples that the PS3 has an incredibly powerful processor that is far more capable than any other player on the market it just happens to be harder to work with. Optimization is key and thats what is being worked on.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Acudefguy you seem very confused - price does not always directly correlate with quality.

• PS3 clusters are being used as a supercomputer by Nasa
  

Yeah, I must be very confused.
I thought for sure that price always correlates with quality and that everything is always black and white. Where have I been?

NASA uses PS3 clusters? It's no wonder all the PS3s were sold out last year!

Now I know what those NASA employees are really doing at work!