My Doctor's Aston Martin

[Gasman]

That was freekin funny masak.

Made me laugh.

You can mod your Rolls to have Bose all around. Gonna rock the street!!!

The sad part, the rich fellow that owns that, probably knows no better. (and thinks he has THE BEST)

Great marketing from BLOSE!!!!!

 

[cbraver]

There's no need to let insults fly. I've been married for 4 years now and have no interest in young gold-diggers anymore. I was simply making a few points. One point is that cars are terrible investments that only drain money. Driving a Ferrari is basically saying, I made it in the world. Or that I lack somewhere else depending on your perspective. The same is true for a Viper, NSX, or any other expensive car. Some drive for fun, some for girls, some like me, just to get to work. In my youth, I'd go with girls. To each their own.

Depends on the car. That GT3-RS someone posted a picture of could get well over list right now (30K + over, I believe). Those Bentley's, on the other hand, are taking huge hits on the used market.

I agree with you that most people who drive flashy cars want to be noticed, but there are exceptions. In Germany the most common colors are gray/silver and black ... even in sports cars. Different mentality. But, there are American car enthusiasts out there that really love the cars and spend time in driving courses and such, but they are certainly a minority to those that just want them to show off.

Different people have different hobbies and pleasures, we can't really judge the driver of these cars without knowing them.

 

[j_garcia]

A car is another form entertainment to me, so I would be after handling mostly, not comfort. Doesn't really matter what it is if it handles great So I don't really care what messge the car sends to others about me because I will be off enjoying some twisties.

 

[stratman]

Ah yes. I lived in Lauderdale Tower (across the intracoastal from Shooters) for two years and almost bought a place in Highland Beach recently. At the time I lived in FL, Diablo's were even easy to find. NSX gets a glance simply because there aren't many of them on the road. Same could be said for a Lotus.

Is the Toy Store still around on Sunrise Boulevard?

Yeah S. FL is still the country's best place to see (and get bored of exotics), The Toy Store is still around, now it's called The New Toy Store. For you non South FL residents, we got swamped with exotics of every kind during the late 70's to the present, it started with the cocaine cowboys, there were exotic dealerships everywhere laundering money and putting cowboys behind the wheel of whatever they wanted. Back then to drive a 911 Turbo meant you were low in the totem pole. BTW I saw two Spykers today, never seen those before, just found out that Braman is selling them. As for Lotus well they weren't expensive enough you see, untill the $50,000 Esprit Turbo of 1980, then at least it was something, but it never made it huge.

 

[rnatalli]

Every one of my relatives in Italy is crazy for Corvette. Seems to be the trend. Anyone who figures a way to get them there easily will probably make loads of money.

In Zurich, dark blue seemed to be the color of choice. At least a few years ago when I was out there.

 

[stratman]

Every native Italian I ever met was in love with the Vette. It's something about huge cubic inches that drives the Europeans crazy.

 

[j_garcia]

I like the NEW Vette...the ZR1! Estimated 620HP, supercharged LS3. Road & Track says it is the most powerful motor ever built by GM.

 

[stratman]

I like the NEW Vette...the ZR1! Estimated 620HP, supercharged LS3. Road & Track says it is the most powerful motor ever built by GM.

I read the Motor Trend article on my flight back from Canada. Amazing specs, but at $100,000 before dealer gouging it's only being marketed to a select few. Just like Ford's GT. That in my opinion is dumb mistake when you consider the financial statements of both GM and Ford. If Ford would have been forward thinking, they would have built GTs in the 35,000 to 45,000 thousand dollar range and would have been selling them like hot cakes, it would have improved their bottom line and put fun to drive, good looking cars on the road for lot more people to enjoy, but I digress it's Ford so what was I thinking? Same arguement goes for GM and the Vette, it use to be that the Vette was attainable, not anymore.

 

[j_garcia]

I don't think they really WANT to produce them like hotcakes or have them in a lot of hands either A little bit of exclusivity as well as the fact that they do know that not a lot of people are going to be able to afford them anyway. I am still impressed when I see the GT on the road (very rare around here); heck even a C6 Z06 gets my head to turn easily (not so rare surprisingly).

 

[Davemcc]

I read the Motor Trend article on my flight back from Canada. Amazing specs, but at $100,000 before dealer gouging it's only being marketed to a select few. Just like Ford's GT. That in my opinion is dumb mistake when you consider the financial statements of both GM and Ford. If Ford would have been forward thinking, they would have built GTs in the 35,000 to 45,000 thousand dollar range and would have been selling them like hot cakes, it would have improved their bottom line and put fun to drive, good looking cars on the road for lot more people to enjoy, but I digress it's Ford so what was I thinking? Same arguement goes for GM and the Vette, it use to be that the Vette was attainable, not anymore.

My GM salesman invited me in recently to drive a new Z06 that just arrived. Over here, that car was $102,000!!!

A fully optioned Z06 in the States is $83,000. To be fair, GM is offering $14,000 discount on the Z06 over here so it's $5,000 more, not counting any incentives that an American buyer might receive.

 

[stratman]

I don't think they really WANT to produce them like hotcakes or have them in a lot of hands either A little bit of exclusivity as well as the fact that they do know that not a lot of people are going to be able to afford them anyway. I am still impressed when I see the GT on the road (very rare around here); heck even a C6 Z06 gets my head to turn easily (not so rare surprisingly).

Oh I know they don't really want to produce them like hot cakes, but they should be more concerned with generating money than catering to the elite. GM, if it stays on this track will not survive 10 years, Ford was just pushed to number 3 by Toyota, if you factor out SUVs and trucks Toyota is 1, GM 2 and Ford 3. Exclusivity is fine and well when your bottom line can support it, Corvettes have always been strong sellers due to a devout following (I know I owned one once), but it use to be more accessible, now they've priced the car out of reach, a car that is without a doubt their best seller in unit sales. Ford's bread and butter for the last years has been the F150, yet the GT sold all it's (limited) production, great, now what a GT Mark 2? I say make the cars less expensive get it out on the road and fatten your bottom line with a good car that people are proud to own and they're nice to look at. In Miami GTs are not rare and like the NSX after the intro you find them in expensive used car lots, after all the GT is "just" a Ford.

 

[stratman]

My GM salesman invited me in recently to drive a new Z06 that just arrived. Over here, that car was $102,000!!!

A fully optioned Z06 in the States is $83,000. To be fair, GM is offering $14,000 discount on the Z06 over here so it's $5,000 more, not counting any incentives that an American buyer might receive.

I don't know of any dealers giving incentives on ZO6s, they figure the person coming into a Chevy dealer to plunk $100,000 on a car will pay msrp plus "premium" limited avalibilty surcharges.

Ironically for that kind of money you're still getting Chevy service.

 

[AUtiger]

Here's American Classic

1972 Cutlass Convertible- American Classic -glide ride- not much for handling and mine only has the 350, But turns heads and is a blast to drive.

 

[Sheep]

Too bad Honda can't translate those stats into their formula one cars or finish races Remind me which team had their secrets robbed recently. Honda like so many other Japanese companies aren't innovators, they're copiers.

Just like in audio, stats aren't everything when it comes to cars. There are two types of people when it comes to buying cars. Those who care about every ounce of performance, the enthusiasts and car geeks. Then there are those who drive cars for prestige. Me, I personally don't care if the NSX slightly out-corners the Ferrari as US roads aren't the place for fast driving, rather which car will get me girls and in this sense, the Ferrari destroys the NSX.

All that said, I generally like Honda cars, but feel Honda, Toyota, and all these front-runners have started to get sloppy lately and are overpricing their cars. I've traditionally driven European cars, but they fall apart even more than American cars these days. And Americans still haven't gotten themselves together. In short, all cars suck.

Are you Familiar with JGTC or, Super GT now? NSX's dominate that class. Turbo charged 500hp.

I normally don't like using video's to prove a point, but I think these warrant a viewing.

And for those that think they can't hold a candle to supe'd up Supra's and Skylines.

Supra (both modified). Warning: Language.

Skyline (R34 GTR) Both Stock.

SheepStar

 

[jagxtype]

As far as breaking my neck looking at cars i would take a look-a-round at anything that is high priced but mostly b/c the large price tags are accompanied by a very high end look of luxury, class, performance, or a combination of the two or even all of them. but i will also say that i would take a good luck at anything like a 40's dodge custom coupe, HEMI baracuda, 383 Roadrunner or anything of that sort. I used to get a lot more people taking looks and complimenting my car than i do being young driving the jag. They either asume that i am some rich butthole, my mommy and daddy bought it, or it is not mine so they dont care. I assure you it doesnt get very many looks that i have noticed which is cool because i like to keep on the downlow. In the end, i could care less about the status, it is what i like and it is sad that many people will buy a car just to maintain or create a status. lets see what kind of looks i get when i buy my cheap truck that will be a POS LMAO.

 

[masak_aer]

The GT had actually caught my attention before but somehow it failed to lured me to buy it.

Sheep: if you look around the bay for NSX, don't be surprised that the cost of 1991 NSX is the same as 2000 Porsche 911.

 

[Davemcc]

I don't know of any dealers giving incentives on ZO6s, they figure the person coming into a Chevy dealer to plunk $100,000 on a car will pay msrp plus "premium" limited avalibilty surcharges.

Ironically for that kind of money you're still getting Chevy service.

This incentive is a Canadian currency "Price Adjustment". They know that they've been overcharging us for years but now that the Canadian dollar is at par with the US dollar, Canadians are balking at continuing to pay over inflated prices when compared to their American counterparts. This is GM's way of compensating for the rise of the currency without actually lowering the MSRP of their vehicles. The adjustment is $9,000 on base Vettes and $14,000 on Z06. To my mind, it's still not enough because the same car is still significantly cheaper in the US.

As for service, this particular Chevy dealer has given me better service than any other dealer or private mechanic in the county. It's partly because of the service that I'll go back to them.

 

[stratman]

This incentive is a Canadian currency "Price Adjustment". They know that they've been overcharging us for years but now that the Canadian dollar is at par with the US dollar, Canadians are balking at continuing to pay over inflated prices when compared to their American counterparts. This is GM's way of compensating for the rise of the currency without actually lowering the MSRP of their vehicles. The adjustment is $9,000 on base Vettes and $14,000 on Z06. To my mind, it's still not enough because the same car is still significantly cheaper in the US.

As for service, this particular Chevy dealer has given me better service than any other dealer or private mechanic in the county. It's partly because of the service that I'll go back to them.

Hey Dave,

I meant incentives here in the states, at least I can say that in Miami they're not giving any. As for the service, you lucked out, my friend gave up on Chevy service after his warranty expired and now has great service with an independent shop, I guess it varies from dealer to dealer.

 

[Davemcc]

Hey Dave,

I meant incentives here in the states, at least I can say that in Miami they're not giving any. As for the service, you lucked out, my friend gave up on Chevy service after his warranty expired and now has great service with an independent shop, I guess it varies from dealer to dealer.

I threw that in more as a disclaimer than anything just in case my calculations were off base. If anything, I should be happy that the price is actually <10% more than the American price. That in itself is unusual.