Help - DVI Male to HDMI female adapter

[m109ner]

New to this forum and was wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a problem I'm having.

I have a Yamaha DPX-1 that I've been running my Sony DVD player off of. I've been using component video cables with BNC connectors to connect to the projector from the DVD player. It looks great! But I need to move up to HDMI.

However, I just got a new Sony Blue Ray disc player and this has HDMI capabilities. Obvioulsy, I'd like to use HDMI vs Component. I've bought a 19pin DVI Male to HDMI female adapter and connected it to the projector's DVI terminal. The problem is that I get no video signal at all. I even tried using different HDMI cable.

This is the adapter that I bought:
Product ID: #2029
From monoprice.com

Can someone please advise if I'm using the wrong adapter? Or if what I'm trying to do is even possible?

Thanks in advance.

 

[j_garcia]

You have to make sure the player is set to use HDMI first; it won't necessarily do it automatically, which means you may need to fire it up with component first. I had to do this with my PS3. Which model? The second is, not all DVI devices are HDCP compliant so it may not work at all, and I am not sure how you would find out if this particular device is. Then there is also DVI-A (analog) vs DVI-D (digital)...which could be yet another possibility.

Blu-ray, not Blue.

 

[TLS Guy]

New to this forum and was wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a problem I'm having.

I have a Yamaha DPX-1 that I've been running my Sony DVD player off of. I've been using component video cables with BNC connectors to connect to the projector from the DVD player. It looks great! But I need to move up to HDMI.

However, I just got a new Sony Blue Ray disc player and this has HDMI capabilities. Obvioulsy, I'd like to use HDMI vs Component. I've bought a 19pin DVI Male to HDMI female adapter and connected it to the projector's DVI terminal. The problem is that I get no video signal at all. I even tried using different HDMI cable.


This is the adapter that I bought:
Product ID: #2029
From monoprice.com

Can someone please advise if I'm using the wrong adapter? Or if what I'm trying to do is even possible?

Thanks in advance.

Its an HDCP compliance issue again. If you are having to convert HDMI to DVI, you can rest assured you will not be making the correct handshakes the unsatisfactory Hollywood crowd demand. This issue surfaces regularly, please browse my previous posts. You have a new player, and it is not getting the correct handshakes it requires form you TV. There are six digital keys, that have to handshake correctly. If the unit is not an end device such as a display, the new standards demand repeated handshakes. This is the so called repeater architecture. Sending devices and transmitting devices like receivers, preamps and switches must have this architecture. To hear True Dolby HD the cables and devices must be HDMI 1.3.

To make matters worse the new standards require outputting devices downgrade all analog outputs to 480i, including component video. This whole issue is disgraceful and a flagrant infraction of the fair use laws. If this keeps up we will all need to buy new equipment every six months.

 

[m109ner]

Its an HDCP compliance issue again. If you are having to convert HDMI to DVI, you can rest assured you will not be making the correct handshakes the unsatisfactory Hollywood crowd demand. This issue surfaces regularly, please browse my previous posts. You have a new player, and it is not getting the correct handshakes it requires form you TV. There are six digital keys, that have to handshake correctly. If the unit is not an end device such as a display, the new standards demand repeated handshakes. This is the so called repeater architecture. Sending devices and transmitting devices like receivers, preamps and switches must have this architecture. To hear True Dolby HD the cables and devices must be HDMI 1.3.

To make matters worse the new standards require outputting devices downgrade all analog outputs to 480i, including component video. This whole issue is disgraceful and a flagrant infraction of the fair use laws. If this keeps up we will all need to buy new equipment every six months.

TLS Guy,

Thanks for your reply. So, what you're saying is I'm basically SOL, right? No way of getting around this?

 

[j_garcia]

Its an HDCP compliance issue again. If you are having to convert HDMI to DVI, you can rest assured you will not be making the correct handshakes the unsatisfactory Hollywood crowd demand. This issue surfaces regularly, please browse my previous posts. You have a new player, and it is not getting the correct handshakes it requires form you TV. There are six digital keys, that have to handshake correctly. If the unit is not an end device such as a display, the new standards demand repeated handshakes. This is the so called repeater architecture. Sending devices and transmitting devices like receivers, preamps and switches must have this architecture. To hear True Dolby HD the cables and devices must be HDMI 1.3.

To make matters worse the new standards require outputting devices downgrade all analog outputs to 480i, including component video. This whole issue is disgraceful and a flagrant infraction of the fair use laws. If this keeps up we will all need to buy new equipment every six months.

I have a PS3 and I can send it out to DVI without issue. My TV is HDCP compliant though apparently and handshakes fine (occasionally my A2 drops). There is NO SUCH THING as a HDMI 1.3 cable, ALL HDMI cables and connectors are 100% backwards compatible per the specification - the only difference is what features each device supports (only the features of the lowest version of either will be supported) and in this case it sounds like the TV doesn't support it via DVI. What that means is you will have to use component and be limited to 720p/1080i and will have no DVD or PS2 game upscaling.

 

[TLS Guy]

TLS Guy,

Thanks for your reply. So, what you're saying is I'm basically SOL, right? No way of getting around this?

I think you are likely SOL.

Here is a thread I posted yesterday about this. Its time do try and put a stop to it.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39089

By my count there are already eight revisions to HDCP and that does not include errata, of which there have been too many. Digital Protection Corporation LLP are now requesting input for yet another version!