Bare studs, best wall surfaces?

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BMW

Junior Audioholic
I am currently redoing my den and will be expanding it and taking it down to the bare studs. What are the best materials to cover and insulate the walls with and not break the bank. I know that regular drywall is one of the least.
Bmw
 
johndoe

johndoe

Audioholic
A product that significantly reduce the sound transmitted to the rest of the house is Quiet Rock, their website is

http://www.quietsolution.com/

You should be able to find a distributor in your area - not a Home Depot or Lowe's product.
The residential product (510 or 516) is installed similarly to drywall. The sts factor using a single sheet of this material is between 46 and 68. A regular drywall partition with insulation blankets will not give you more than about 35. The only trick is installing it right using the perimeter sealant, but believe me, it's not rocket science.

This will only contain the spl within the room. It has nothing to do with room treatments. That's a different animal, but you may already know that.
I hope this helps.
 
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davo

Full Audioholic
Hmmm, you want to re-do your den but not spend much money? Most people always start of with this in mind, but get your head around this one fact.

IT IS GOING TO COST YOU! The better the quality rating you want , the more you will spend. The only way you will do it on the cheap is if some one gives you the materials, and you know how to do it yourself. (A lot different to thinking you know how to do it!!)

Sorry if this bursts your bubble, and I do hope you can get out of it as cheaply as possible, but I've seen too many people end up with really crappy end products that has cost the same if not more than doing the job right the first time.

If you know a trady personally then hopefully the job won't be out of the ball park.

Good luck.
 
patnshan

patnshan

Senior Audioholic
If you can catch this episode of DIY Network show "Home Theater", it shows how to install Acoustical walls and sub-floor. Its pretty informative at a high level.

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/shows_dhtw/episode/0,2499,DIY_20437_36345,00.html
I saw it, a little extreme IMHO. They paid somebody $1800 to wire their HT, YIKES!!! I think I also recalled them mentioning "wall mounted speakers are a must for HT". Load of crap. There was some good information, but needs to be sifted through.

Pat
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
I think I also recalled them mentioning "wall mounted speakers are a must for HT". Load of crap. There was some good information, but needs to be sifted through.
I too remember that some info did not mesh... I was amazed at the amount of acoustical damping used, double sheet rock and acoustic batt, acoustic sub floor, first reflection pannels, etc. That room must have been dead as a fossil.

IMHO, the basics were well presented. A good place to start...
 
Bryce_H

Bryce_H

Senior Audioholic
When I built my dedicated HT in my basement, I used a couple different techniques. Ideally I would have liked to build a room within a room, but it wasn't practical (or cost efficient)

1) used RSIC-1 to mount hat track to the wall. Then mounted the drywall to the hat track.

2) stuffed all cavities with insulation

3) used staggered stud construction on walls shared by other rooms

4) I used standard drywall (5/8" fire resistant). I could have doubled it, but didn't.

Room sounds great - no outside noise what so ever entering and only deep bass escaping.
 
patnshan

patnshan

Senior Audioholic
I too remember that some info did not mesh... I was amazed at the amount of acoustical damping used, double sheet rock and acoustic batt, acoustic sub floor, first reflection pannels, etc. That room must have been dead as a fossil.

IMHO, the basics were well presented. A good place to start...
Agreed. I think you could gun down somebody in that room and nobody else in the house would hear it:eek:

Pat
 
patnshan

patnshan

Senior Audioholic
When I built my dedicated HT in my basement, I used a couple different techniques. Ideally I would have liked to build a room within a room, but it wasn't practical (or cost efficient)

1) used RSIC-1 to mount hat track to the wall. Then mounted the drywall to the hat track.

2) stuffed all cavities with insulation

3) used staggered stud construction on walls shared by other rooms

4) I used standard drywall (5/8" fire resistant). I could have doubled it, but didn't.

Room sounds great - no outside noise what so ever entering and only deep bass escaping.
We built the basement HT like any other room. Standard studs, standard drywall, standard insulation. It is also quite quiet and we have no problems at all. I really think that most people do not need most of the stuff marketed for this purpose.

Pat
 
annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
I have heard of people using 5/8" drywall/sheetrock overlayed with 5/8" MDF. Using silicone to isolate the drywall from the studs and the drywall from the MDF. It sounds like it would work well. I would not want to be the one holding up a 5/8" sheet of MDF while someone screws it to the ceiling though. :D
 
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