stratman
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The IPCC has a politcal ax to grind, it's obvious. And I'll say it loud and clear when science becomes politicized or media"ized" the results are dubious at best.
That puts you in good company with the Chinese, American, and many other governments. These are very complex historical, economic, and political times. Anything less than scientifically perfect prediction models will find huge impediments to any global warming treaties that include emission cuts. And even without cuts there will be national agendas to be dealt with.Just to be clear, when I say I think a precautionary approach is best, I mean precautionary in the sense of supporting binding emission cuts to reduce the possibilility of large changes to the climate system.
Hmmm. And we haven't had a full inch in here in Milwaukee in 60 days. Drought/flood. Flood/drought. I don't think it has anything to do with Nostradamus.Loser says we're gonna die but if this rain doesn't stop it will be by drowning. It must have rained an inch within fifteen minutes at noon today. Thirty straight days of rain.
Now your biatching about the rain. First the fires, and now the rain. Make up your mind Mud. LOLLoser says we're gonna die but if this rain doesn't stop it will be by drowning. It must have rained an inch within fifteen minutes at noon today. Thirty straight days of rain.
Hmmm.....your's has the Viper radar too, I thought only Miami had the Viper. Channel 7 or 6, don't know which since I stopped watching local "news", for that matter al news, I get my hrrricane info straight from the source: NHC.I'm sorry, my local television weather man still says "We're gonna die".
According to the "Super Mega Viper Atomic Astro Radar System" he uses and is only available at his television station, a storm is brewing off the coast of Africa right now. Granted, those normal radar and satellite systems that NOAA uses can't see anything. But he says we need to be ready. And we all know that the local weather guys in Florida are never wrong
Note to self: need to prep the "safe room" in the house to hunker down.
Super Mega Viper Atomic Astro Radar System???I'm sorry, my local television weather man still says "We're gonna die".
According to the "Super Mega Viper Atomic Astro Radar System" he uses
LOL, spoken like a married guy!Super Mega Viper Atomic Astro Radar System???
I bet my "Heat Seeking Moisture Missile" can find wetness, or moisture faster then that thing.
Spoken like a native Floridian, funny you can tell who's new down here and who's been around by the way they react to the local news hurricane forecasts, sensationalism at it's best.If you live in a place where the weather actually does anything (like FL) I challenge all of you to take one month... just one month and do the following:
1) Write down the actual weather in your area.
2) Compare to what local weather guy said
3) Compare to what weather.com said
These guys might as well be telling me they can turn lead into gold. Innaccurate weather prediction is what makes me cautious of other longer term meteorological predictions about the planet. If these guys can't tell me what's happening next week...
Isn't it precisely this kind of attitude (I know better than the experts) that caused the catastrophic human losses and "lesser casualties" in Katrina and Andrew?Spoken like a native Floridian, funny you can tell who's new down here and who's been around by the way they react to the local news hurricane forecasts, sensationalism at it's best.
No it really isn't, most damage done by Andrew was due to years of faulty construction done by unscrupulous developers and bribed county inspectors that would look the other way when wholesale tracts of new homes were being built against code (Country Walk, Kendall) the other much publicized damage was done in Homestead where the majority of dwellings destroyed were mobile homes, which you can't reinforce in a worthwhile manner to begin with. In fact most of the older homes withstood the storm without complete loss or major damage. And given the strength of Andrew, human loss was extremely low, most happened after the storm when people wandered outside and touched live wires. It's not NOAA who "spreads the crap" it's the local newsboys in search of ratings. All you need to survive is common sense, a large percentage of homes down here have either shutters or impact glass, my roof is rated till 203 mph (conc. tile and foam glue down.) There is no need whatsoever for the fear mongering these idiots put the elderly and newbies through, you die in a Hurricane if you're suicidal. I get my weather info straight from NOAA and NHC via their site, I don't listen to local forecasts, much less when a Hurricane "threatens."Isn't it precisely this kind of attitude (I know better than the experts) that caused the catastrophic human losses and "lesser casualties" in Katrina and Andrew?
Whilst I do appreciate the hassle of the seemingly incessant reports of "impending doom" over this three month period, is it not better to heed the wisdom, experience and technology of NOAA, rather than complain of the wolf that cried? I'd just hate to be the one scooping up your guys' remains off of 275 or 195 because of some ill-placed bravado. Stay safe down there.
Yes, I'm a native Floridian. Born and raised in Fort Lauderdale during the BEST years of Spring Break
Florida builders were selling crap home in South Florida for years. The home I grew up in was built by an architect back in the early '50s. The thing was a freakin' bomb shelter. The stuff that was built in the '70s and '80s was just plain criminal. But they met the building codes at the time (or they bribed the inspectors). After Andrew, Dade County came up with their own much more stricter codes. It's only been a few years (2002) since the State enacted a state-wide building code that takes into account hurricane reinforcement. It's still not as strong as the Dade code. That means there's a LOT of homes down here that will suffer substantial damage if another major storm hits a large city.
The homes that were built in South Florida that failed during Andrew had no reinforcement. They were just simple block construction with no ties, no rebar and no down-pours around the openings (doors & windows). They either simply collapsed or the truss work fell over like dominoes.
I'm used to hurricanes. Part of life here. Stock up on water, food and beer And after the crap that happened after Andrew, stock up on ammo.
I'm just sick of hearing idiots (like Brian Norcross) who says stupid things on TV like, "hunker down". http://cbs4.com/bios/local_bio_053140656/
The news weather people here are just plain idiots. It's easy to get people excited in Florida since most of the people here aren't from Florida. They see the images of destroyed mobile homes, poorly built homes and shacks that were destroyed during storms since that's the first place the newscaster go after a storm.
You may be right. I've been intimately involved in construction for 20 years, and I'm here to tell you the typical home is not made to withstand 165 mph winds (Andrew's force at landfall). Period. Whether it be strapping and tie downs, capillary breaks, or venting...165 mph is one hell of a force. And that's what Hurricane Andrew had to offer. You blame the builders. There is no doubt inferior building practices occurred. Your state and municipalities permitted that unfortunate scenario...hopefully, they've learned their lesson.No it really isn't, most damage done by Andrew was due to years of faulty construction