How to find a 12v trigger cable???

[Davemcc]

Nobody has 12v trigger cables, at least not that I've been able to find (excepting a 50ft Niles). I just want a short trigger cable to connect components within the space of my stand, a simple 3.5mm mono to 3.5mm mono. I did find an old thread about this, but the link there no longer works.

Monoprice - x
Radio Shack - x
Local Dealers - x
Future Shop - x
Blue Jeans - x

Does anybody know how to acquire this part myth-part legend cable.

 

[no. 5]

Wouldn't something like this work?

 

[avaserfi]

Aren't 12v triggers 1/8" mini-mono plugs? If they are here is what you need. Someone might need to chime in on this before you buy it though, but I am pretty sure I read that recently (99%).

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103841&cp=2032058.2032228

 

[Davemcc]

Yes, those will both work. Thanks to both of you. I searched that Radio Shack site and came up empty, probably because I searched 3.5mm instead of 1/8". Doh! I called another local high end audio shop and he found some in a catalog for about $4 bucks and ordered them, so I'm good now. But I really have to question, if the 12v trigger is advertised as a feature on about half of all decent A/V equipment, why is it so darned tough to find one of these on a store shelf?

Again, thanks for your help and I hope these links stay open for the next unlucky 'tard that wants one of these.

 

[Boogerman]

12v trigger

Are you any good with a soldering iron? Those hard to find cables are easy to make yourself.Saves money,too.

 

[mike c]

so what happens when you use those stereo 1/8" cables on the 12v trigger?

 

[avaserfi]

so what happens when you use those stereo 1/8" cables on the 12v trigger?

It will carry the current when the receiver it turned on and cause whatever the intended effect to occur like dropping down an electric screen. I think thats what you are asking.

 

[j_garcia]

It will carry the current when the receiver it turned on and cause whatever the intended effect to occur like dropping down an electric screen. I think thats what you are asking.

Pretty much. It just passes a "on" or "off" signal to the device it is connected to. My monoblocks use a Marantz specific trigger that uses RCA from the receiver, and I simply daisy chain them to turn each one on, so one cable to the first amp then from that amp to the next, etc... That was the main reason I went with them.

 

[Davemcc]

so what happens when you use those stereo 1/8" cables on the 12v trigger?

The stereo mini-jack I tried did absolutely nothing. That's why I went looking for the mono mini-jack.

 

[mike c]

so what happens when you use those stereo 1/8" cables on the 12v trigger?

It will carry the current when the receiver it turned on and cause whatever the intended effect to occur like dropping down an electric screen. I think thats what you are asking.

so in the absence of a mono cable, a stereo cable is safe to use?

The stereo mini-jack I tried did absolutely nothing. That's why I went looking for the mono mini-jack.

hmmm, shouldn't the other contact point be just a dead link, and the other one active? perhaps the black line on the stereo interconnect is not aligned with the single black line on a mono interconnect.

 

[avaserfi]

I am not to sure but your guess is as good as mine I would probably just fork out the extra 4 bucks at radioshack just to be sure especially because it didn't work for Davemcc

 

[Davemcc]

I am not to sure but your guess is as good as mine I would probably just fork out the extra 4 bucks at radioshack just to be sure especially because it didn't work for Davemcc

Try it anyway. Lots of things don't work out for me...

 

[adk highlander]

so in the absence of a mono cable, a stereo cable is safe to use?

I have used a stereo plug with no problem for both IR inputs and trigger inputs.

Now if anyone knows how to put 2 output triggers from the Receiver into one input on the amp and not have it hurt the receiver I would really like to know.

 

[Davemcc]

Now if anyone knows how to put 2 output triggers from the Receiver into one input on the amp and not have it hurt the receiver I would really like to know.

Why would you do that?

 

[majorloser]

Now if anyone knows how to put 2 output triggers from the Receiver into one input on the amp and not have it hurt the receiver I would really like to know.

Are you trying to use two different receivers for the same amp or two different zones from the same receiver using the same amp?

If you're using two receivers and are worried about feedback power, I guess you could use a diode on each receiver's trigger cable to act as a sort of "check valve".

If you're using two different zones from the same receiver, there should be a setting in the receiver to tell it which trigger output to use. Then you could use the same trigger output for both zones. (I know I can do that with my pre/pro)

 

[adk highlander]

My receiver has 2 triggers (one for each zone) and my amp has one trigger.

In the OSD I have to set up the trigger for each zone but as I only have one input on the amp that would mean both outputs from the receiver would go into the one input on the AMP. (Edit - you cannot use the same trigger out for both zones)

So say I have my CD player set to trigger for both the main zone and the zone 2.

I am afraid that the signal going out from the main zone trigger would go out to the amp but then feedback through the other trigger cable into the zone 2 trigger and damage the pre-pro. Or if I am using the same source in both zones then the amp is getting a signal from both trigger outs and damage the amp.

Am I making any sense? I know what I mean but I just don't know if I'm explaining myself correctly. Been writing code all day my brain is a bit mushy.

thanks.

 

[Davemcc]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most receivers require that zone 1 be on any time zone 2 is playing? Which would mean that the receiver is sending a signal from the zone 1 trigger all the time that zone 2 is playing anyway?

 

[adk highlander]

Dave thanks for the suggestion but in this case no zone 1 does not come on when zone 2 is active. The receiver does display a dimmed zone 2 on it but nothing for zone 1 is active.

I have tested it six ways to Sunday and trigger 1 is zone 1 and trigger 2 is zone 2. This is why I'm trying to see if there is another device out there (not one I have to completely build) that would work or if routing both triggers would damage anything.

 

[Davemcc]

After many deep and profound brain things in my head, I'm still not sure why you'd want zone 1 and zone 2 triggering the same component.

If it's an amp being triggered, presumably it is wired to speakers that are in either one zone or the other. In this case, you'd select only the zone in which the speakers are wired to the amp, requiring one trigger. The exception to this might be if you had a 5ch amp and were using 3ch for the mains and center in one zone and the other 2ch in the other zone. Other than this, I can't imagine why an amp would be triggered by both zones.

If its a CD player, that's different. I'd guess that the CD player has a remote control to change tracks unless you sit and listen to every disc from start to finish without interruption. In this case, just plug the CD player into an always on outlet and turn it on with the remote for use in both zones.

Can you tell me what you are trying to accomplish, more specifically what do you want specific components to do, so this question will stop itching at my brain.

 

[adk highlander]

The exception to this might be if you had a 5ch amp and were using 3ch for the mains and center in one zone and the other 2ch in the other zone.

This is exactly what I am doing. I have a 7 channel amp that I am using 2 of the channels for the zone 2.

So I will try and explain this more clearly I think I rambled a bit last time.

Receiver has 2 triggers

trigger 1: zone 1
trigger 2: zone 2

In the osd when you are setting up each component you can select:

Source: CD
audio input: op1, coax 1 etc.
video input: HDMI, component, svideo, et.
trigger 1: on, off
trigger 2: on, off

So to have the trigger turn on the amp for zone on I have to have the trigger 1 set to on and if I want the amp to turn on for zone 2 I need to have trigger 2 on. Well how do I get both to turn on the amp in this configuration when the amp only has one trigger input?

Just to give a bit more background I am using a 6.1 system to by surround back speaker is being powered by the receiver. Initially I wanted to use the receivers back speakers configured as zone 2 and use the preouts for all channels in the theater. This however does not work and I end up getting zone 2 sound out of the surround back speakers when hooked to the surround back pre-outs.

Thanks for helping with this Dave.