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pearljamfan

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Unregistered said:
NONE of the grunge, rap, hip-hop, etc bands will be popular even 5 years from now - many are already fading away.
Uh..Scott Stapp fired bassist Brian Marshall from "Creed" because Brian made some comment about "Pearl Jam should go back to the music they started out with" So at least some people still care about "grunge" bands...now don't tell me Creed sucks and Scott's opinion is BS....I think somebody WILL cover "Higher" or "With Arms Wide Open" 20 years from now:)

I think a lot of bands even 50 years from now will take a keen interest in covering songs by Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Nirvana or Soundgarden even if you think "Grunge Died"

Music is a very personal choice. I can't stand Classical music but I'm not going to go on record and say "Vivaldi sucks...Beethoven sucks...Mozart sucks" If you like it, good for you. If you don't like it, change the channel or put on your headphones and block out the offensive airwaves...
 

Stryf3

Audioholic Intern
pearljamfan said:
Uh..Scott Stapp fired bassist Brian Marshall from "Creed" because Brian made some comment about "Pearl Jam should go back to the music they started out with" So at least some people still care about "grunge" bands...now don't tell me Creed sucks and Scott's opinion is BS....I think somebody WILL cover "Higher" or "With Arms Wide Open" 20 years from now:)

I think a lot of bands even 50 years from now will take a keen interest in covering songs by Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Nirvana or Soundgarden even if you think "Grunge Died"

Music is a very personal choice. I can't stand Classical music but I'm not going to go on record and say "Vivaldi sucks...Beethoven sucks...Mozart sucks" If you like it, good for you. If you don't like it, change the channel or put on your headphones and block out the offensive airwaves...
No offense, but I htink your smoking dope. Creed does suck, and the former members new band sucks even more. There is always interest in covering old songs from all kinds of diverse genres, but to say alot of bands will have an interest in covering these bands (and I like all of them) is overly optimistic. The original poster was either trolling or just ignorant. Most of the artists he listed are actually very good. Another thing I've read in this thread that is concerning is that popularity = good. Definitely a bad argument. Otherwise we would have to acknowledge Brittney Spears and N'Sync as genius artsits of our time. The reason alot of the artsits mentioned in the original thread aren't popular anymore has to do with the nature of the music industry today. It's all about image; there are very few popular artists of any musical merit (wether technical excellence or great song writing ability)

flame on
 
toquemon

toquemon

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Well, i won´t say that Creed sucks, there're a lot of bands that REALLY suck, like blink 182 and all of those "happy punk" S#%T. I think Creed is a bad copy of Pearl Jam. And yes, I can hear "With arms wide open" being played in a wedding while the "just married" couple is dancing.

Bye.
 
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'With arms wide open' is a good song but the dark, dreary Creed sound makes it rather unsuitable as a ballad for occassions such as a wedding as far as I am concerned.
 
WmAx

WmAx

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Well, I suppose every musician has some dedicated fans. But, if asked which musician pegs my PUKE meter, I would answer "Kid Rock". This is especially the case after i once saw him on a live special on TV where he was brave enough to use his own, non-prercorded, non hevily processed voice. Ack!

-Chris
 
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Polkfan

Audioholic
WmAx said:
Well, I suppose every musician has some dedicated fans. But, if asked which musician pegs my PUKE meter, I would answer "Kid Rock". This is especially the case after i once saw him on a live special on TV where he was brave enough to use his own, non-prercorded, non hevily processed voice. Ack!

-Chris
I absolutely agree with you! I cringe everytime I see that guy.
 
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pearljamfan

Enthusiast
Stryf3 said:
No offense, but I think your smoking dope.
None taken. I actually DO smoke dope and that's not the first time I've been told that in a forum! People tell me that even when i'm NOT smoking dope. So maybe I really am screwed!!!

{QUOTE=toquemon]I think Creed is a bad copy of Pearl Jam[/QUOTE]
Uh, hell no. Sorry, but Creed and Pearl Jam are two bands with vocalists who sound VERY similar, But their music styles are anything but that. Maybe the first two Pearl Jam albums have that Hard Rock sound that Creed makes. But the other 5 Studio Albums, Creed could NEVER come close. Two bands, similar sounding vocalists, both pretty good in their own right, although there's no way they can be mentioned in the same sentence (as far as musical merit is concerned)

Anyway, nobody is hailing Spears and N'Sync as great musicians so don't tell me I am just hailing Popular Modern Rock Bands as Great and ignoring "real" good artists. This topic is about Artists that SUCK and if you heard Kid Rock's "WCSR" on Cocky, you know you chose an excellent candidate for sucky artists (or artists with ONE good album and taking themselves too seriously): Kid Rock.
 
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Gerald

Audioholic Intern
Without thinking twice...

Morris Albert singing "Feelings". :p
 
Rip Van Woofer

Rip Van Woofer

Audioholic General
The only way to determine the suck factor of music and musicians, of course, is with double-blind testing at matched levels. But only after you have created a valid "suck scale" metric.

We at Van Woofer Laboratories are perfecting advanced suckiness measurement systems and protocols. Gene and Hawke are beta testing a prototype as we speak! Much of the details are proprietary with many patents pending, but I can say that we found the "laff meter" technology of 50's TV shows to be an instructive precursor.
 
JoeE SP9

JoeE SP9

Senior Audioholic
As far as musicians/singers who suck go Kenny *. is right at the top. The question about him is where does his taste come from. The Guy can play, he just has the most nasal pinched tone I've ever heard. His selection of music to play also leaves a lot to be desired. :cool:
 
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Markus

Enthusiast
Unregistered said:
Whether you like the Beatles or not, you have to at least recognize that they were pioneers AND they are still popular 40 years later. The artists listed all have had careers spanning decades and are still selling. NONE of the grunge, rap, hip-hop, etc bands will be popular even 5 years from now - many are already fading away.

While I do not agree with the narrow minded view of the first poster in saying those artists Suck. I also think this poster is just a narrow minded to say that rap musicians wont be big after 5 years. Hell 2pac has over 25 albums, he was on top for a decade, and he has been in the public's eye for almost a decade after his death still coming out with more and more albums to this very day. So it is also wrong to say rappers only have a 5 year career. How about LL Cool J, Run DMC, Pete Rock, Slick Rick, even Eminem has been out for well over 5 years and still reigning strong.
 
Starmax

Starmax

Full Audioholic
To Suck or Not to Suck?

I like liver and licorice. Anyone want to try and convince me that I don't?
 
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Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
I hate to pick on individual musicians who suck, but there are certainly trends that suck. One of the worst is including rap passages in otherwise good songs. A few seconds of rap can spoil a decent rock song just as surely as a teaspoon of vinegar can spoil a gallon of milk. I blame Aerosmith for this, since "Walk This Way" was a classic until they ruined it with rap.
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
My 2 cents!

Eric Clapton is one of the very very best!!
To state that he is not, might indicate some sort of serios misjudgement of obvious talent and dedication!!!

Nuff Said

:confused:
From your Blind Faith avatar im guessing your a clapton fan,me too:D

Simply absurd.:rolleyes:
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
Uh..Scott Stapp fired bassist Brian Marshall from "Creed" because Brian made some comment about "Pearl Jam should go back to the music they started out with" So at least some people still care about "grunge" bands...now don't tell me Creed sucks and Scott's opinion is BS....I think somebody WILL cover "Higher" or "With Arms Wide Open" 20 years from now:)

I think a lot of bands even 50 years from now will take a keen interest in covering songs by Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Nirvana or Soundgarden even if you think "Grunge Died"

Music is a very personal choice. I can't stand Classical music but I'm not going to go on record and say "Vivaldi sucks...Beethoven sucks...Mozart sucks" If you like it, good for you. If you don't like it, change the channel or put on your headphones and block out the offensive airwaves...
Great music is that which will stand the test of time not relegated to cover bands in whiskey bars,some new group with the fancy new style hair doo's & mtv videos where their all wearing wife beater t shirts to show their cool tribal tattoo's & angry looking face's to impress the kids may cover their tunes but thats bout it.

I die laughing every time i see creed's guitar player doing a riff ,if you can call it a riff,big tough posturing pose to show how hard he's wailing away all the while his solo sucks,i'd be willing to bet his fingers are as soft as a womans breast.

I like creed's music but great music it isnt,nor is their material, they are just another band who's 5 minutes of fame have burnt out,same goes for Alice in chains.
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
The only way to determine the suck factor of music and musicians, of course, is with double-blind testing at matched levels. But only after you have created a valid "suck scale" metric.
WOW! Long time no post.:)

I think Kenny G should be the RED LINE for the suck meter.
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
While I do not agree with the narrow minded view of the first poster in saying those artists Suck. I also think this poster is just a narrow minded to say that rap musicians wont be big after 5 years. Hell 2pac has over 25 albums, he was on top for a decade, and he has been in the public's eye for almost a decade after his death still coming out with more and more albums to this very day. So it is also wrong to say rappers only have a 5 year career. How about LL Cool J, Run DMC, Pete Rock, Slick Rick, even Eminem has been out for well over 5 years and still reigning strong.
Rap musicians,thats an oxymoron isnt it:confused:

Can any of these guy's even play any instrument,i'd be impressed if one of em could even play a tape recorder.
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
Anyone remember "We Are The World" and stuff like that?
HAHAHA,we are the world,wtf were they thinking,man i hated that whole scene.

I agree with everybody you mentioned as sucking except Clapton & Collins,neither one was ever the greatest at what they do but both played with great skill & real feeling & it showed.

Is Phill Collins as good a drummer as Lenny White, Billy Cobham or even Ansley Dunbar ? i think not, his style was different but his style did not mean he was not capable of some pretty complicated beats.

Same goes for Eric Clapton,i cant honestly say he was ever as proficient as players like John Mclaughlin or Steve Vai but once again his style was different,Vai & Mclaughlin's styles are maching gun guitar devised to WOW the listener with speed & proficiency where claptons style invokes emotion & feeling,Clapton's solo in the song "when a man loves a woman" has got to be one of the greatest solo's of all time as far as making the listener FEEL what he is playing.

One of my favorite guitar players in the world is Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top,Nothing he play's could ever be considered technicaly proficient but his style sure does envoke feeling.

My 2 cents:)
 

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