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hardcore_gamer99

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Ok so i had 4800h and had to sell it for some reason. I want to try marantz this time. I will be powering up dali rubikore 6+ rubikore centre channel+ opticon 2 mk2 as rear pair and 4 atmos speakers. Someone said we can only select 6 and 8 ohms in settings but all these speakers are 4 ohms only will it work? Also Can cinema 40 not do 7.x.4 without any amp? Also i am getting denon x6800h for 2.13lakhs INR and this cinema 40 for 1.75lakhs but cinema 30 is very costly here 2.75lakhs INR. How should i proceed?
 
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PENG

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Ok so i had 4800h and had to sell it for some reason. I want to try marantz this time. I will be powering up dali rubikore 6+ rubikore centre channel+ opticon 2 mk2 as rear pair and 4 atmos speakers. Someone said we can only select 6 and 8 ohms in settings but all these speakers are 4 ohms only will it work? Also Can cinema 40 not do 7.x.4 without any amp? Also i am getting denon x6800h for 2.13lakhs INR and this cinema 40 for 1.75lakhs but cinema 30 is very costly here 2.75lakhs INR. How should i proceed?
They all can power those speakers but how well each AVR will perform with them will depend a lot on:

1) seating distance
2) your listening habit, such as how long you listen to

For example, if you sit 4 meters vs 2 meters from the speakers, you will need roughly 4 times the output from the AVR than what you would need if you sit 2 meters from them.

If you listen to reference level (cinema loud), versus say 10 dB lower (still very loud for a lot of people) below reference, then you will need 10 times the output from your AVR.

For those so called 4 ohm nominal speakers, if you want to play safe without considering what your actual requirements are, then go with any of the X4800H, Cinema 40, X6800H, Cinema 30 but add external amps that are rated 200 W 8 ohms, 300 W 4 ohms.

From "power" output stand point, if you are going to use power amps, even the X3800H or the Cinema 50 will still be adequate.

The Denon versus Marantz topic seems popular on forums but in reality the difference is just aesthetic so highly subjective by nature. Other than that, some people believe Marantz use their so called "Soundmaster" to tune their devices to sound warm and musical, but there is no scientific basis, but mostly something created by some very smart marketing people.;) People who are subjective oriented, don't understand too much about the underlying science and bench test measurements will tend to buy in to such smart marketing talks, as they are good at providing a lot seemingly good reasons for why Marantz has that "signature" warm and musical sound. My suggestion is, if you can get the Cinema 30 for just a few hundred dollars, such as up to $400, and you like the better look, and perceived better build quality, then go for it, if more than say $500, and the X6800H looks fine to you, then save the money for something that actually matter, but again, that's just my opinion.
 
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hardcore_gamer99

Junior Audioholic
They all can power those speakers but how well each AVR will perform with them will depend a lot on:

1) seating distance
2) your listening habit, such as how long you listen to

For example, if you sit 4 meters vs 2 meters from the speakers, you will need roughly 4 times the output from the AVR than what you would need if you sit 2 meters from them.

If you listen to reference level (cinema loud), versus say 10 dB lower (still very loud for a lot of people) below reference, then you will need 10 times the output from your AVR.

For those so called 4 ohm nominal speakers, if you want to play safe without considering what your actual requirements are, then go with any of the X4800H, Cinema 40, X6800H, Cinema 30 but add external amps that are rated 200 W 8 ohms, 300 W 4 ohms.

From "power" output stand point, if you are going to use power amps, even the X3800H or the Cinema 50 will still be adequate.

The Denon versus Marantz topic seems popular on forums but in reality the difference is just aesthetic so highly subjective by nature. Other than that, some people believe Marantz use their so called "Soundmaster" to tune their devices to sound warm and musical, but there is no scientific basis, but mostly something created by some very smart marketing people.;) People who are subjective oriented, don't understand too much about the underlying science and bench test measurements will tend to buy in to such smart marketing talks, as they are good at providing a lot seemingly good reasons for why Marantz has that "signature" warm and musical sound. My suggestion is, if you can get the Cinema 30 for just a few hundred dollars, such as up to $400, and you like the better look, and perceived better build quality, then go for it, if more than say $500, and the X6800H looks fine to you, then save the money for something that actually matter, but again, that's just my opinion.
cinema 30 here is 3200 usd =2.85lakhs INR and denon x6800h 2400usd. Id i have to use amp then i dont think i need these models. i have small room length is 13 feet but i have habit of 70 volume. Even cinema 40 is 1982 usd here
 
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