On Trump

[highfigh]

So there are states with widespread crime, not hard to believe. Look at the white house if you want high criminal activity that's allowed.

And yet, it doesn't have bodies on the floor or apparent drug use. I think it's time that you remove your blinders and look at the country as a whole, rather than one person or place.

Did you see what happened in Chicago over the weekend? Last numbers I saw were: 58 shot, 8 dead. Over the July 4th weekend, 45 shot, 4 killed. Last year, 109 people were shot and 19 were killed over the Wed-Sun period of the July 4th week. "But they have strict gun control!"- I guess it's not working.

 

[GO-NAD!]

And yet, it doesn't have bodies on the floor or apparent drug use.

Are you sure about that?

Trump's White House Was 'Awash in Speed' -- and Xanax

Under Trump, the White House Medical Unit was “like the Wild West,” and staffers had easy access to powerful stimulants and sedatives, sources say.

www.rollingstone.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/

I get what you mean, but white-collar drug abuse has been swept under the carpet for generations, while it's a grave moral failure when involves the plebs.

 

[lovinthehd]

And yet, it doesn't have bodies on the floor or apparent drug use. I think it's time that you remove your blinders and look at the country as a whole, rather than one person or place.

Did you see what happened in Chicago over the weekend? Last numbers I saw were: 58 shot, 8 dead. Over the July 4th weekend, 45 shot, 4 killed. Last year, 109 people were shot and 19 were killed over the Wed-Sun period of the July 4th week. "But they have strict gun control!"- I guess it's not working.

LOL no apparent drug use, you ever watch Don Jr? Sr. doesn't need drugs, he's just out of his mind naturally....maybe, he might be a drug user. They use illegal military muscle to carry out their misdeeds. Neither are fit to talk about others' criminality really. I don't live in Chicago any more.

ps I'd worry more about the nazi population where you live.

 

[Dude#1279435]

And yet, it doesn't have bodies on the floor or apparent drug use. I think it's time that you remove your blinders and look at the country as a whole, rather than one person or place.

Did you see what happened in Chicago over the weekend? Last numbers I saw were: 58 shot, 8 dead. Over the July 4th weekend, 45 shot, 4 killed. Last year, 109 people were shot and 19 were killed over the Wed-Sun period of the July 4th week. "But they have strict gun control!"- I guess it's not working.

You will support military intervention in every blue city.

 

[highfigh]

You will support military intervention in every blue city.

Jumping to conclusions again, I see.

Ideally, they would be able to handle the crime on their own, but if they decreased the budget for Police because of pressure from ANTIFA/BLM and protests, they need to look at the problem and decide if they really want people to be and feel safe.

If I thought they would be safe, I would be OK if civilians made their presence widly known in high crime areas, but if people don't stop doing stupid things when the police are in the immediate area on other calls, why would they stop for civilians? This is in reference to the gunfire described in the link-

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2022/05/14/mass-shooting-on-water-street-downtown-milwaukee-after-bucks-nba-playoff-game-vs-boston-celtics/9775305002/

 

[highfigh]

LOL no apparent drug use, you ever watch Don Jr? Sr. doesn't need drugs, he's just out of his mind naturally....maybe, he might be a drug user. They use illegal military muscle to carry out their misdeeds. Neither are fit to talk about others' criminality really. I don't live in Chicago any more.

ps I'd worry more about the nazi population where you live.

I'll address the last comment first- what nazi population? You can't be referring to local government because MKE hasn't had a Republican Mayor since 1916-1918 and the current Mayor can't really claim to be the reason for any drop in homicide- it peaked during COVID, as it did in many places. Now, the young'uns are staging street takeovers, so that's super great-

VIDEO: Milwaukee 'street takeover' blocks drivers near 6th and Clybourn over the weekend

Three people were arrested following several “street takeovers” in Milwaukee over the weekend, according to police.

www.tmj4.com

Yeah, Don Jr is a special little guy.

In light of the lack of control, it would seem that a POTUS CAN send troops in-

The Insurrection Act of 1807 allows the president to deploy troops during invasions, rebellions or when local authorities can’t maintain order. When Police are told to stand down during rioting, when a Mayor or Governor refuse to handle crime, something has to be done- citizens aren't stopping it.

The Insurrection Act of 1807 allows the president to deploy troops during invasions, rebellions or when local authorities can’t maintain order.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Insurrection+Act+of+1807&atb=v228-1&ia=web

 

[highfigh]

Are you sure about that?

Trump's White House Was 'Awash in Speed' -- and Xanax

Under Trump, the White House Medical Unit was “like the Wild West,” and staffers had easy access to powerful stimulants and sedatives, sources say.

www.rollingstone.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/

I get what you mean, but white-collar drug abuse has been swept under the carpet for generations, while it's a grave moral failure when involves the plebs.

I was thinking of Coke, Crack, Meth and other street drugs, but hadn't heard about what was happening with prescription drugs.

 

[trochetier]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/01/us/politics/crime-republican-states.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU8.spSu.tMtkZq-qZ0OX

 

[Dude#1279435]

Jumping to conclusions again, I see.

Ideally, they would be able to handle the crime on their own, but if they decreased the budget for Police because of pressure from ANTIFA/BLM and protests, they need to look at the problem and decide if they really want people to be and feel safe.

If I thought they would be safe, I would be OK if civilians made their presence widly known in high crime areas, but if people don't stop doing stupid things when the police are in the immediate area on other calls, why would they stop for civilians? This is in reference to the gunfire described in the link-

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2022/05/14/mass-shooting-on-water-street-downtown-milwaukee-after-bucks-nba-playoff-game-vs-boston-celtics/9775305002/

So you're saying I'm jumping to conclusions while simultaneously saying you want the military to come to Milwaukee? Since all cities realistically have crime, what you'd have to do is look at statistics and conclude crime is higher than the baseline to justify federal intervention. Trump doesn't strike me as someone who reads much so it looks to me like he's just going into blue cities. Hypothetically if he were looking at the data and by chance a red city were high in crime well than he'd have to send troops there too. I can't really see anyone on the right being interested in that, so this is why I believe this is fascism.

What you will do is say that oh you're not for federal intervention while saying Milwaukee hasn't had a Republican mayor since the early 1900s. That's how I know you're for federal intervention, but it's the type of thing that is inconvenient to say out loud.

 

[Dude#1279435]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/01/us/politics/crime-republican-states.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU8.spSu.tMtkZq-qZ0OX

LOL....

>>>Adam Gelb, the president and chief executive of the Council on Criminal Justice, a nonpartisan research organization, stated what he said was obvious — Mr. Trump is not basing his interventions on crime rates.

“The federal government almost never does anything based on pure statistics,” Mr. Gelb said. “No administration would just look at a chart and go straight down the list based on rates of violence.”<<<

 

[highfigh]

So you're saying I'm jumping to conclusions while simultaneously saying you want the military to come to Milwaukee? Since all cities realistically have crime, what you'd have to do is look at statistics and conclude crime is higher than the baseline to justify federal intervention. Trump doesn't strike me as someone who reads much so it looks to me like he's just going into blue cities. Hypothetically if he were looking at the data and by chance a red city were high in crime well than he'd have to send troops there too. I can't really see anyone on the right being interested in that, so this is why I believe this is fascism.

What you will do is say that oh you're not for federal intervention while saying Milwaukee hasn't had a Republican mayor since the early 1900s. That's how I know you're for federal intervention, but it's the type of thing that is inconvenient to say out loud.

Yeah, you also think I want the military to come here. I want the state and city to fund the PD properly, but the way the population is treating the officers, the department is having a really hard time recruiting.

Trump isn't going to say nice things about blue states or cities- why would you expect him to do that?

However, MKE now has street takeovers and when 200 idiots are f&cking around in one area at the same time others are doing the same in five other places simultaneously, who the hell is supposed to handle it? The surrounding areas have their hands full, so assisting other departments isn't going to happen and the streets surrounding the takeovers were blocked, to prevent police intervention. Did you check out the link, to see the photos?

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yeah, you also think I want the military to come here. I want the state and city to fund the PD properly, but the way the population is treating the officers, the department is having a really hard time recruiting.

Trump isn't going to say nice things about blue states or cities- why would you expect him to do that?

However, MKE now has street takeovers and when 200 idiots are f&cking around in one area at the same time others are doing the same in five other places simultaneously, who the hell is supposed to handle it? The surrounding areas have their hands full, so assisting other departments isn't going to happen and the streets surrounding the takeovers were blocked, to prevent police intervention. Did you check out the link, to see the photos?

Doesn't the government also help states funding law and order? Or is that in the past now?

 

[trochetier]

Did anybody watch any part of Kennedy's Senate appearance? I wonder his success as an environmental lawyer - he couldn't even argue his case coherently!

 

[mtrycrafts]

Is DOJ investigating banning firearms for trans people? If so, wonder the origins of that order. Who is next, why stop there.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Did anybody watch any part of Kennedy's Senate appearance? I wonder his success as an environmental lawyer - he couldn't even argue his case coherently!

Parts of it. What a sad individual. Did I say sad? Much worth. I guess when you hire FOX personalities, why not him.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Might as well add this for the record:

Adding Context to Trump's Misleading Claims About Crime in Chicago - FactCheck.org

"The Igarapé Institute’s top 50 list did include U.S. cities (by highest ranking): Memphis (number 21 in world ranking); New Orleans (25); St. Louis (30); Baltimore (36); Cleveland (37); Detroit (48); and Washington, D.C. (50). The top 10 international cities are in Ecuador, South Africa, Brazil and Mexico."

 

[trochetier]

Is DOJ investigating banning firearms for trans people? If so, wonder the origins of that order. Who is next, why stop there.

What! Second Amendment wouldn't apply to trans? That's a slippery slope who would be next?

 

[mtrycrafts]

What! Second Amendment wouldn't apply to trans? That's a slippery slope who would be next?

That is what I read on a headline, forgot the source, newspaper.

 

[highfigh]

Doesn't the government also help states funding law and order? Or is that in the past now?

The state is supposed to fund law enforcement and other needs, but the WI Dog Catcher (AKA Gov, by some) doesn't like Milwaukee, apparently. Largest city in the state, but he doesn't give a rat's ass. The surrounding areas are getting killed by crime. He's not running again, which is great, IMO. He said that WI had a $7+ billion tax surplus, but hasn't revealed much about what he wants to do with it- at least not much made easy to find.

I like parts of WI. I really do. I even like a lot of Milwaukee, but the negatives are out-weighing the positives, for me.

Then, there are the terrible roads- I'm genuinely amazed that my van hasn't fallen apart and I have put more than 210K on it here.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Yeah, you also think I want the military to come here. I want the state and city to fund the PD properly, but the way the population is treating the officers, the department is having a really hard time recruiting.

Trump isn't going to say nice things about blue states or cities- why would you expect him to do that?

However, MKE now has street takeovers and when 200 idiots are f&cking around in one area at the same time others are doing the same in five other places simultaneously, who the hell is supposed to handle it? The surrounding areas have their hands full, so assisting other departments isn't going to happen and the streets surrounding the takeovers were blocked, to prevent police intervention. Did you check out the link, to see the photos?

I said using statistics to prove blue cities have a higher crime rate and therefore justifying using federal intervention. Trump reads and uses crime statistics, and then decides a course of action? Doesn't sound like him. No I think he's going into blue cities regardless and uses that as part of his political agenda against the left.