Israel's influence on US foreign policies

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Audioholic Warlord
Listen to the 20 minute mark for a couple of minutes,

Vance? What a surprise he's lying lol.

The NDAA (Nat'l Defense Authorization Act) Sect 219 was established for 2027 in part due to Israel's increasing lack of support in the US. I think basically to marry us to Israel forever. Personally I don't think we have a choice but to continue to give Israel defense aid, but that I want them sleeping next to me in my own bed c'mon. :rolleyes: I think we should be considering reducing aid. After all, they got what they wanted: US involvement in this war, and the mofo's apparently don't even help us in Iran.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Why would anyone trust Israel or the current US administration?
Throughout out the course of this war, Iran targeted until last week, only military targets. They followed the US lead tit for tat. I can’t say the same for Israel in Gaza, Westbank, and now Lebanon.
You seem to be ignoring that the IRGC is killing the Iranian people, for protesting- 40K in a short time. They're a state sponsor of Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis, captured hostages in the late '70s and held them for 444 days. They impose death penalty for what they consider to be major crimes and absolutely unacceptable (haram), some of whichare considered by the rest of the world to be civil rights. They have lied repeatedly about nuclear weapon programs and Uranium enrichment for decades. The Iranian people want new government and for that, they're killed and made to suffer from sanctions. Now, the Houthis have attacked Saudi Arabia.

Let's look at the whole problem, not just your personally hated people.
 
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Audioholic Slumlord
You seem to be ignoring that the IRGC is killing the Iranian people, for protesting- 40K in a short time. They're a state sponsor of Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis, captured hostages in the late '70s and held them for 444 days. They impose death penalty for what they consider to be major crimes and absolutely unacceptable (haram), some of whichare considered by the rest of the world to be civil rights. They have lied repeatedly about nuclear weapon programs and Uranium enrichment for decades. The Iranian people want new government and for that, they're killed and made to suffer from sanctions. Now, the Houthis have attacked Saudi Arabia.

Let's look at the whole problem, not just your personally hated people.
You seem to ignore the following;
1) The genicide of both the Palestinian and now Lebanese people by the Israelis.
2) The illegal war started by the US in a decapitation strike against Iran.
3) The galvanization of the Iran people to their leadership demonstrated by the funeral whose gathering in numbers was unprecedented in the history of mankind. It also included the dignitaries of a 147 countries, more than any other event in the world.
4) The piracy committed by the US killing all these so called drug boats without proof and without fair trial.
5) The kidnapping of the Venezuelan president and holding the trial in a NewYork court instead of the world court.
6) Trying to claim Greenland, a land mass owned by the Danes.
7) Making Canada a 51st state.

I have good reason to hate the current US and Israeli fascist government. Trump demonstrated that his word cannot be trusted.

The difference between you and me is that I simply don’t swallow the BS fed to me by either the US or Canadian administrations. I’m not a puppet nor product of your country or any other country’s brainwashing schemes.

I strongly suggest that you pull your head out of your ass and take a real hard look at everything that is happening abroad and how the US administration continues to lie to its people.
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
You seem to ignore the following;
1) The genicide of both the Palestinian and now Lebanese people by the Israelis.
2) The illegal war started by the US in a decapitation strike against Iran.
3) The galvanization of the Iran people to their leadership demonstrated by the funeral whose gathering in numbers was unprecedented in the history of mankind. It also included the dignitaries of a 147 countries, more than any other event in the world.
4) The piracy committed by the US killing all these so called drug boats without proof and without fair trial.
5) The kidnapping of the Venezuelan president and holding the trial in a NewYork court instead of the world court.
6) Trying to claim Greenland, a land mass owned by the Danes.
7) Making Canada a 51st state.

I have good reason to hate the current US and Israeli fascist government. Trump demonstrated that his word cannot be trusted.

The difference between you and me is that I simply don’t swallow the BS fed to me by either the US or Canadian administrations. I’m not a puppet nor product of your country or any other country’s brainwashing schemes.

I strongly suggest that you pull your head out of your ass and take a real hard look at everything that is happening abroad and how the US administration continues to lie to its people.
1) Do Hamas and Hezbollah hide and store weapons beneath residential housing?
2) I have never been in favor of the Ayatollah, but believe mre should have been done to prevent this war. However, Iran is responsible for far too many deaths and too much destruction over the last 5 decades via Hamas & Hezbollah and they had been sanctioned for that and the nuclear program.
3) Keep looking into the opinions of the people WRT the leadership- you saw masses of people, that doesn't show the whole population, which has reached 80 million.


4) Trial? For what Iran has been doing? You're defending Iran for blowing up international shipping?
5) Venezuela should have been handled very differently.
6) Greenland has been discussed for a long time, but the thing about Trump is that he tries to do things until someone stands up to him- it's him playing chicken with the World but world leaders continue to flinch.
7) Not all of Canada wants to leave, like Alberta, but I have read (Canadian sources) about that province being exploited and not receiving much in return and the high costs of living.
 
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Audioholic Slumlord
1) Do Hamas and Hezbollah hide and store weapons beneath residential housing?
Hamas was created in December 1987 during the start of the first Palestinian uprising (Intifada). While Benjamin Netanyahu never signed formal political peace treaties or formal "deals" as partners with Hamas, his governments pursued a long-term strategy of indirect financial and logistical accommodations—often described as "buying quiet"—to keep Hamas in power in Gaza and divide Palestinian leadership. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Origins of Hamas
    • Foundation Date: December 1987, by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and other members of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood. [1]
    • Initial Roots: Grew out of Mujama al-Islamiya, an Islamic charity network in Gaza that Israel initially tolerated or discreetly enabled in the late 1970s and 1980s as a religious counter-weight to the secular Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). [1]
    • Core Aim: Shifted into a militant nationalist-islamist organization committed to armed struggle against Israel and explicitly opposing the 1990s Oslo peace process. [1, 2, 3]
Netanyahu's Policy and Accommodations
    • Financial Infusions: For over a decade, Netanyahu's governments tacitly allowed millions of dollars in Qatari financial aid (often delivered via suitcases through border crossings) to flow directly into the Gaza Strip to fund civil operations and pay salaries. [1, 2]
    • Strategic Division: Critics, political analysts, and even some members of Netanyahu's right-wing coalition openly stated that keeping Hamas solvent and functional in Gaza served as an "asset" to prevent a unified Palestinian government and stall any momentum toward a recognized Palestinian state. [1, 2, 3]
    • Work Permits and Goods: Israel periodically expanded the import of construction materials and authorized thousands of work permits for Gazans to enter Israel, working under the assumption that economic normalization would pacify the border—a policy that faced intense scrutiny and reassessment following the October 7, 2023 attacks. [1, 2, 3]
Hezbollah was created in 1982, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has never made direct political deals with them, instead engaging in mediated ceasefires and framework agreements aimed at their disarmament. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Origins of Hezbollah
    • Emergence: Formed in 1982 during the Lebanese Civil War as a Shia militia to resist the Israeli invasion of southern Lebanon. [1, 2]
    • Patronage: Organized with backing from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and officially announced its existence in 1985. [1, 2]

Nature of Agreements Involving Netanyahu
    • Indirect Ceasefires: Netanyahu endorsed U.S.- and international-brokered ceasefires and temporary truces (such as in late 2024 and 2026) to halt active cross-border fighting. [1, 2]
    • Disarmament Frameworks: Deals like the June 2026 U.S.-brokered framework agreement were struck with the Lebanese state, not Hezbollah, with the explicit goal of dismantling Hezbollah's military infrastructure. [1, 2]
    • Rejection by the Group: Hezbollah routinely rejected these state-level diplomatic frameworks, viewing them as attempts to undermine their organization rather than cooperative bargains. [1, 2, 3]
Hamas have extensive tunnel systems that go under civilian infrastucture in Gaza and the West Bank but it seems the duplicity of Neetanyahu's actions was called out by Hamas. Netanyahu under the false guise of security has created a genocide of the Palestinian civilian populations and the western world has turned a blind eye to this.

Hezbollah also have extensive tunnel systems but are tunneled under the mountaineous regions of Lebanon.

2) I have never been in favor of the Ayatollah, but believe mre should have been done to prevent this war. However, Iran is responsible for far too many deaths and too much destruction over the last 5 decades via Hamas & Hezbollah and they had been sanctioned for that and the nuclear program.
The number deaths that Iran is responsible for pales to the death created by the US in the Vietnam, Korean, and Iraq wars and by the regional instability created by Israel. Before pointing to Iran, take a long look at US history.


3) Keep looking into the opinions of the people WRT the leadership- you saw masses of people, that doesn't show the whole population, which has reached 80 million.


There's a far greater following for the Iranian leadership than the apathy of the US voter who are disenchanted with both parties turning the US into a laughing stock for the rest of the world.

4) Trial? For what Iran has been doing? You're defending Iran for blowing up international shipping?
5) Venezuela should have been handled very differently.
Two separate issues. The trial comment was about Venezuela.

As for Iran blowing up international shipping, blame Trump who signed the MOU that clearly states that Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz and will have to adhere to protocols dictated by the Iranian Strait Authority. All ships that followed the protocol were left alone. All ships that tried to sneak through with transponders off and via the channel by Oman (with encouragement by the US administration and promises of protection) were targeted and hit. Trump signed the MOU but didn't follow it.

6) Greenland has been discussed for a long time, but the thing about Trump is that he tries to do things until someone stands up to him- it's him playing chicken with the World but world leaders continue to flinch.
He and the Republicans that follow him, and the MAGA maggot pussies are disgusting by any and all measure of humanity.


7) Not all of Canada wants to leave, like Alberta, but I have read (Canadian sources) about that province being exploited and not receiving much in return and the high costs of living.
Those Alberta separatists who are pushing for independence are equivalent to the MAGA maggots and largely uneducated and unaware of what's going on within and outside of their borders.

Several U.S. states have active grassroots or political groups advocating for independence or secession from the United States, most notably Texas, California, and Alaska. While legal precedent (such as Texas v. White in 1869) establishes that unilateral secession is unconstitutional, public interest and organized campaigns persist. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Key State Independence Movements
    • Texas ("Texit"): Driven by the Texas Nationalist Movement, which campaigns for a peaceful, ballot-box exit from the union, drawing on Texas's history as an independent republic. [1, 2]
    • California ("Calexit"): Prompted by various left-leaning and regional grassroots groups (such as the former California National Party) expressing political and cultural alienation from federal policies. [1, 2, 3]
    • Alaska: Supported historically by entities like the Alaskan Independence Party, fueled by strong anti-federal sentiment and geographical isolation, though formal party structures have fluctuated. [1, 2]
    • Hawaii: Rooted in the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, which seeks self-determination or restoration of independence based on the illegal 1893 overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom. [1, 2]
    • New England / Cascadia: Regional movements spanning multiple states (like Vermont or Washington and Oregon) that periodically organize cultural or political discussions
 
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