NINaudio

NINaudio

Audioholic Samurai
Just bullshit, and enjoy. My question was clear, from the beginning. Does data incoming limit quality out, from a high resolution system? And data incoming is less than optimal, no? When have you spent too much based on the incoming data? Why are you guys so aggressive? Why?
If all you're doing is watching Netflix and youtube, then you don't need much more than a basic 4k tv and a cheap 5.1 system.
 
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Paul McNeil

Audioholic
OK, now that you have calmed down, do you see that your correction is not correct English? Look at the context, "Is there a point?'..."Streaming limited, when all that gear is no longer relevant? Again, your correction is silly!
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
OK, now that you have calmed down, do you see that your correction is not correct English? Look at the context, "Is there a point?'..."Streaming limited, when all that gear is no longer relevant? Again, your correction is silly!
In your first post I had no clue what you were asking.

Yes, it is worth having the best equipment for streaming, at least in the classical real. There are streams that deliver lossless FLAC and very high quality Atmos streams.

One of the issues with streams and digital audio in general is that the dynamic range is actually not as good as it seem, because of exceeding limits with the average level being too high.

So there is now a new European normalization standard: - The European Broadcasting Union (EBU) R 128 standard is used to normalize digital audio in Europe. It recommends setting the target loudness level to −23 LUFS (Loudness Units Full Scale). AES have recommended adoption. Dolby are enforcing EBU 128 for all Atmos streams. After intense investigation on my part with my digital audio workstation, I have come to the conclusion that EBU 128 is the way to go.

There is significant consumer resistance as the average level is much lower than what we are used to. It is lower than 10 to 12 db from a lot of current streams. If you have listened to any Atmos streams then you know what EBU 128 sounds like in terms of volume.

I have concluded that EBU 128 does allow for wider and cleaner dynamic range, and I now normalize my Wav.files to EBU 128.

The downside, is that it requires equipment have very superior signal to noise ratio. So that means careful attention to installation and ground planes.

In the classical arena there are many streams that are the equal of any digital disc and better than a lot. The only exception is Atmos streams as it is not possible currently to stream them lossless but still with very acceptable degree of lossy compression. Currently the only way to experience loss less Atmos is on disc.
 
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Anglofun

Junior Audioholic
Yes, I understand what 'surround sound' is about, and about business efficiency. What I was asking is, When limited by streaming quality, when we rely on this, should we invest in to gear? Simple question, which I think you ignored, from the beginning. If not I apologize.
Hi

Awesome question!!! I am an older lad now (50) and started this hobby in both 2 channel and primitive HT (see prologic) Oufff just writing that hurts lol.

Obviously when you compare a really good recorded movie in its best format via a 4K player vs the very same streamed, you will be notice the missing aspects on a great system. This you already know

I have decent gear, nothing crazy but let's call it decent. I find that there are decent sounding movies on Netflix. I stream Youtube and get a kick out of certain music tracks, and I stream apple music being "higher res" and hear very decent recordings.

This worth what it is worth!

Although it would seem like I am answering like a bad politician, I think you will understand my response.

Cheers
 

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