SONAB CSW 9 thumping

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thehandofdawn

Audiophyte
Hi folks, newbie to the forum and the hobby here, hoping someone can help me.

I am getting single, short bassy thumps from my subwoofer when:

- I pause films or songs on my TV
- when I hit play again
- when I switch audio settings on my receiver e.g. 'Enhancer' or 'Straight'

The thumps happen *often* in the aforementioned scenarios, but not every single time.

These thumps, however, do occur with 100% certainty when the audio drops out on the Disney+ app (apparently drop outs are a common and frustrating issue for Disney+ users). Oftentimes, when I start a movie or a show on Disney+, the audio will cut out twice in the first few seconds before stabilising, and the woofer will thump both times.

The sound on the woofer is fantastic otherwise, I just live in anticipation of the next of those jarring, obnoxious thumps. It rather ruins my viewing and listening experience.

I do not recall this being as much of an issue (or an issue at all) a few months ago when the TV was hooked up to the receiver via a simple aux cord. If memory serves, the thumping began around the time I switched to an HDMI ARC connection. Is that a possible cause, or is it far more likely just a coincidence? i.e. did I just so happen to switch from aux cable to HDMI around the time a component in the receiver or woofer failed of its own accord.

I do not currently have access to another receiver or another woofer to figure out where the problem lies via process of elimination. I'm just hoping this is a problem someone else here has encountered before and is able to diagnose from my description.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

My setup:
- SONAB CSW subwoofer (wired connection)
- 2x Dali Spektor bookshelf speakers
- Yamaha RX-V577 receiver
- LG OLED CX television (connected to receiver via HDMI ARC)

I have replaced the power cable for the woofer as it looked a bit knackered. No change. Replacing the audio cable looks to be a pain as it is RCA to phoenix. I have included a photo of what the connection looks like. I bought this woofer secondhand so this is not my work. As a noob to all this, I have no idea whether this looks like a solid job or a total mess.

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Thanks in advance.
 
everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
Hi folks, newbie to the forum and the hobby here, hoping someone can help me.

I am getting single, short bassy thumps from my subwoofer when:

- I pause films or songs on my TV
- when I hit play again
- when I switch audio settings on my receiver e.g. 'Enhancer' or 'Straight'

The thumps happen *often* in the aforementioned scenarios, but not every single time.

These thumps, however, do occur with 100% certainty when the audio drops out on the Disney+ app (apparently drop outs are a common and frustrating issue for Disney+ users). Oftentimes, when I start a movie or a show on Disney+, the audio will cut out twice in the first few seconds before stabilising, and the woofer will thump both times.

The sound on the woofer is fantastic otherwise, I just live in anticipation of the next of those jarring, obnoxious thumps. It rather ruins my viewing and listening experience.

I do not recall this being as much of an issue (or an issue at all) a few months ago when the TV was hooked up to the receiver via a simple aux cord. If memory serves, the thumping began around the time I switched to an HDMI ARC connection. Is that a possible cause, or is it far more likely just a coincidence? i.e. did I just so happen to switch from aux cable to HDMI around the time a component in the receiver or woofer failed of its own accord.

I do not currently have access to another receiver or another woofer to figure out where the problem lies via process of elimination. I'm just hoping this is a problem someone else here has encountered before and is able to diagnose from my description.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

My setup:
- SONAB CSW subwoofer (wired connection)
- 2x Dali Spektor bookshelf speakers
- Yamaha RX-V577 receiver
- LG OLED CX television (connected to receiver via HDMI ARC)

I have replaced the power cable for the woofer as it looked a bit knackered. No change. Replacing the audio cable looks to be a pain as it is RCA to phoenix. I have included a photo of what the connection looks like. I bought this woofer secondhand so this is not my work. As a noob to all this, I have no idea whether this looks like a solid job or a total mess.

View attachment 70783

Thanks in advance.
What amp are you using?
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic General
I have replaced the power cable for the woofer as it looked a bit knackered. No change. Replacing the audio cable looks to be a pain as it is RCA to phoenix. I have included a photo of what the connection looks like. I bought this woofer secondhand so this is not my work. As a noob to all this, I have no idea whether this looks like a solid job or a total mess.

View attachment 70783

Thanks in advance.
That looks like a 75 ohm coax tv cable going into that connector....that surely cant work well.
Do you have the other end plugged into the Yamaha sub out ?

I would bet that sub isn't meant to be used outside of its mother system.
As it is, I'm surprised it works at all...thats a speaker level input you have plugged in to.
 
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thehandofdawn

Audiophyte
That looks like a 75 ohm coax tv cable going into that connector....that surely cant work well.
Do you have the other end plugged into the Yamaha sub out ?

I would bet that sub isn't meant to be used outside of its mother system.
As it is, I'm surprised it works at all...thats a speaker level input you have plugged in to.
Other end plugged into the Yamaha sub out yes.

Do you think this sub and amp simply cannot work together, or that I need to change how they are connected? Any advice is much appreciated.
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic General
Other end plugged into the Yamaha sub out yes.

Do you think this sub and amp simply cannot work together, or that I need to change how they are connected? Any advice is much appreciated.
That's a very odd input on that sub...You would think it would be a speaker level input, but there is only one of them. Odd.
The mother unit to that system might have had that setup if you didn't use the wireless, and had a special connector for it.

From what I'm seeing that sub will never work properly outside of its mother system....this is common to these types of systems.
 
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thehandofdawn

Audiophyte
That's a very odd input on that sub...You would think it would be a speaker level input, but there is only one of them. Odd.
The mother unit to that system might have had that setup if you didn't use the wireless, and had a special connector for it.
I would have to search the layout a little more to tell you anything.
Regarding the wired setup, I found this within the sub's manual:

""LINE OUT: Connect to "Line in" on other System 9 speaker with balanced cable.

LINE IN: Connect from "Line Out" on CgV or other System 9 speaker with balanced cable.""

CGV refers to this thing: https://pacifichifi.com.au/product/sonab-cgv-wired-volume-master/?srsltid=AfmBOooWt1zpRulYJ79XXbIHVgHn4Rgv4V8jGtsoxb9juyICHrWfuTeF

Manual for the mother system:

Manual for the sub itself:

Again, any help is hugely appreciated. I am completely out of my depth here
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic General
Regarding the wired setup, I found this within the sub's manual:

""LINE OUT: Connect to "Line in" on other System 9 speaker with balanced cable.

LINE IN: Connect from "Line Out" on CgV or other System 9 speaker with balanced cable.""

CGV refers to this thing: https://pacifichifi.com.au/product/sonab-cgv-wired-volume-master/?srsltid=AfmBOooWt1zpRulYJ79XXbIHVgHn4Rgv4V8jGtsoxb9juyICHrWfuTeF

Manual for the mother system:

Manual for the sub itself:

Again, any help is hugely appreciated. I am completely out of my depth here
That just further proves that all those components are all designed to work with each other and nothing else.
A glorified soundbar type system, where if one part is gone...the rest is useless.

If you are actually getting it to work at all, consider that a win.
Get a real sub when you can.
 

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