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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Giuliani is disbarred in DC.

>>>Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani is disbarred in Washington, DC, the district’s highest local court said Thursday, a move stemming from the ethics proceedings Giuliani faced in New York because of his efforts to help former President Donald Trump try to overturn the 2020 election. …<<<

You beat me to it!

If nothing else, it's nice to see some good news.
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Are they dull? Asking for a friend.
They appear to be quite sharp.

Step 1: Separate him from his property.

>>>A federal judge on Tuesday ordered former Donald Trump attorney and New York mayor Rudy Giuliani to turn over all his valuable possessions and his Manhattan penthouse apartment to the control of Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, the Georgia election workers he defamed and to whom he now owes $150 million.

Judge Lewis Liman of the federal court in Manhattan said Giuliani must turn over his interest in the property to the women in seven days, to a receivership they will control. The judge’s turnover order of the luxury items is swift and simple, but the penthouse apartment will have its control transferred so Freeman and Moss can sell it, potentially for millions of dollars.<<<

 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
It sucks to be a former Trump attorney.

If Michael Cohen could interview him, he should ask “So Rudy, how is it down there under that bus?”
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
They appear to be quite sharp.

Step 1: Separate him from his property.

>>>A federal judge on Tuesday ordered former Donald Trump attorney and New York mayor Rudy Giuliani to turn over all his valuable possessions and his Manhattan penthouse apartment to the control of Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, the Georgia election workers he defamed and to whom he now owes $150 million.

Judge Lewis Liman of the federal court in Manhattan said Giuliani must turn over his interest in the property to the women in seven days, to a receivership they will control. The judge’s turnover order of the luxury items is swift and simple, but the penthouse apartment will have its control transferred so Freeman and Moss can sell it, potentially for millions of dollars.<<<

$150 million. Why so much? Is it a percentage of assets, or how does that work?
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
$150 million. Why so much? Is it a percentage of assets, or how does that work?
In theory* it has nothing to do with his assets, it's based on harm to the plaintiffs:

>>>The total included a combined $75 million in punitive damages; compensatory damages of $16.2 million to Ms. Freeman and $16.9 million to Ms. Moss; and $20 million to each of them for emotional suffering.<<<

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/17/us/politics/giuliani-defamation-damages.html

*I say "in theory" because a jury could be less sympathetic to someone who they perceive to be wealthy. The assets of the defendant are not, however, admitted into evidence in a case such as this.
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
First Sidney Powell, then Ken Chesebro, and now Jenna Ellis have all pleaded guilty in less than a week! All are lawyers who'd rather plead guilty than defend themselves against RICO felony charges. Any two such guilty pleas can define a straight line, but three guilty pleas that line up are good evidence of a genuine trend. How many lawyers besides Giuliani and Eastman remain among the indicted?

. . . Chesebro is known to be more of a political weasel than a lawyer.
Chesebro is now known as a former lawyer:

>>>Kenneth Chesebro, a lawyer who was a key architect of the idea to use false slates of pro-Trump electors to overturn the 2020 election results, was indefinitely barred by a state appellate court on Thursday from practicing law in New York. . . . In an eight-page opinion, the court focused on his felony conviction in Georgia, concluding that it was sufficiently serious and similar to a felony in New York to bar him from practicing law “effective immediately.” <<<

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/31/us/politics/trump-lawyer-chesebro-suspended-new-york.html

In theory he could be reinstated, but it looks like an uphill climb.

Basically, he's just a political weasel now.

For those keeping score at home, Sidney Powell dodged a bullet and held onto her law license in TX:

>>>A Texas appellate court on Wednesday upheld a decision to reject attorney disciplinary charges against Donald Trump ally Sidney Powell, finding that the state's bar failed to prove that she had engaged in "fraud, dishonesty, deceit, or misrepresentation."<<<


What the Reuters article doesn't say is that Powell won due to huge F up by the TX bar:

>>>n early 2023, the case was tossed on a defense motion to dismiss because of mislabeled evidence and several other deficiencies. . . . “By its own admission, the Bar misidentified or failed to include multiple exhibits it claims to have relied on in its Second Amended Response,” the opinion by the Fifth District Court of Appeals reads. “But the deficiencies go far beyond mislabeling exhibits.” . . . In plain language, authorities filed two sloppy complaints and were then unable to defend their work when the time came to do so.<<<


In theory it's not possible to know with absolute certainty what would have happened but for the TX bar F up, but I doubt she would have walked away with no discipline whatsoever.
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
Chesebro is now known as a former lawyer:

>>>Kenneth Chesebro, a lawyer who was a key architect of the idea to use false slates of pro-Trump electors to overturn the 2020 election results, was indefinitely barred by a state appellate court on Thursday from practicing law in New York. . . . In an eight-page opinion, the court focused on his felony conviction in Georgia, concluding that it was sufficiently serious and similar to a felony in New York to bar him from practicing law “effective immediately.” <<<

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/31/us/politics/trump-lawyer-chesebro-suspended-new-york.html

In theory he could be reinstated, but it looks like an uphill climb.

Basically, he's just a political weasel now.

For those keeping score at home, Sidney Powell dodged a bullet and held onto her law license in TX:

>>>A Texas appellate court on Wednesday upheld a decision to reject attorney disciplinary charges against Donald Trump ally Sidney Powell, finding that the state's bar failed to prove that she had engaged in "fraud, dishonesty, deceit, or misrepresentation."<<<


What the Reuters article doesn't say is that Powell won due to huge F up by the TX bar:

>>>n early 2023, the case was tossed on a defense motion to dismiss because of mislabeled evidence and several other deficiencies. . . . “By its own admission, the Bar misidentified or failed to include multiple exhibits it claims to have relied on in its Second Amended Response,” the opinion by the Fifth District Court of Appeals reads. “But the deficiencies go far beyond mislabeling exhibits.” . . . In plain language, authorities filed two sloppy complaints and were then unable to defend their work when the time came to do so.<<<


In theory it's not possible to know with absolute certainty what would have happened but for the TX bar F up, but I doubt she would have walked away with no discipline whatsoever.
So, should the Texas bar be disbarred for incompetence?
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
So, should the Texas bar be disbarred for incompetence?
Yes, but they would more than likely screw up the filing against themselves and keep their law licenses.

On the other hand, the filing itself could prove incompetence by failing to provide evidence of incompetence.

Where's Joseph Heller when you need him?
 

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