Audioholics...Please review Obsessive Compulsive Audiophile's A1 Evo Audyssey Optimization Tool!

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Tankini

Tankini

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Buy better speaker's. Don't spend Money on electronics thinking it's gonna help correct much. Put your money where it counts, better speakers, room treatments.
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Buy better speaker's. Don't spend Money on electronics thinking it's gonna help correct much. Put your money where it counts, better speakers, room treatments.
Exactly get speakers you like , I got Klipsch for movies and tv . Some people like brands with 3 way speakers, mine are 2 way. I have no reason to upgrade even when I get the money. Except for my avr or tv which are obsolete . Avr won’t replace until it dies prob.
Plenty of great suggestions on this forum and reviews.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
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I heard about this but TBH, I prefer Audyssey PC and using manual biquads to refine bass response and shelve fullrange correction below the point where Audyssey diverged from normal speaker response. I then use shelving filters to tilt treble to taste depending on room acoustics. This process usually takes me a 2-3 hours but the results are consistently excellent. Not sure I want to mess with installing unsanctioned ver of Audyssey into a $7500 prepro.

I will ask Marantz about this.
 
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MLadia

Audioholic Intern
I heard about this but TBH, I prefer Audyssey PC and using manual biquads to refine bass response and shelve fullrange correction below the point where Audyssey diverged from normal speaker response. I then use shelving filters to tilt treble to taste depending on room acoustics. This process usually takes me a 2-3 hours but the results are consistently excellent. Not sure I want to mess with installing unsanctioned ver of Audyssey into a $7500 prepro.

I will ask Marantz about this.
Thank you Gene. Maybe this isn't the correct demographic for the question, but for Average Joes like me with equipment that is hardly audiophile quality, you have to agree that a $20 app and a free tool sounds pretty good calibration tool.
 
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MLadia

Audioholic Intern
Well, Lucky you huh? Gene was Feeling generous this morning I see.1st. Let me take this Opportunity and thank you for starting this thread. 2nd. Not a slide at you. I don't know you we never met. 3rd. Most and I say most, because Every once in a while Gene, will jump on his website, and jump in on his Forum side of his website. Especially if a comment is directed specifically at him, He'll usually reply busy man though.

4th. You just got for Free!! info, about what Genes "taste" of the way or his likings for tweaking one of his setups.
Dude has some of the best gear, not to mention Flagship speakers that are manufactured by a Highly regarded highly rated RBH speakers company, in his studio set up.

5th. Because Gene, was feeling generous to share some info that I've been dying to ask him since I've been on his website since 2011. I just gleaned this from Gene's reply from your thread that you open up on Audioholics, forums.

"I prefer Audyssey PC and using manual biquads to refine bass response and shelve fullrange correction below the point where Audyssey diverged from normal speaker response. I then use shelving filters to tilt treble to taste depending on room acoustics. This process usually takes me a 2-3 hours but the results are consistently excellent. Not sure I want to mess with installing unsanctioned ver of Audyssey into a $7500 prepro"

@MLadia again thank you! Now I don't have to call-in and pay $200-300 a hour for Gene's Expert opinions with helping on my modest HT set up. I would have to with anyone else's Opinion or recommendation those, you usually have to take with a box of salt sometimes, not with Gene's though. Cheers!

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isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic General
Exactly get speakers you like , I got Klipsch for movies and tv . Some people like brands with 3 way speakers, mine are 2 way. I have no reason to upgrade even when I get the money. Except for my avr or tv which are obsolete . Avr won’t replace until it dies prob.
Plenty of great suggestions on this forum and reviews.
I bet your speakers sound fantastic with your landfill room treatment.

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Matt34

Matt34

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Im currently am using it and think it's doing a better job than base Audyessy XT32, especially tying in the subs to your mains. I'll admit, I'm not 100% sure what it's doing to get to that point, but the results have been favorable. My only nitpick with it, is it seems to tame the output of my height and surround channels down much more than base Audyessy does.

It would be beneficial in my case to see a 3rd party break down the script for us knuckle-draggers.
 
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OCA

Audioholic Intern
I wonder if @OCA would comment,
With over 10k downloads, a Facebook group of over 1.5k members and about 1000 pages of its own thread in AVS forum, I think A1 Evo speaks for itself.

The software utilizes Sound United's official customization tool to modify Audyssey's original measurements. The optimized calibration is then transferred to the receiver again using the official app. Concerns about hardware risks are insincere at best ;)
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
With over 10k downloads, a Facebook group of over 1.5k members and about 1000 pages of its own thread in AVS forum, I think A1 Evo speaks for itself.
Not so sure that speaks for itself as it depends on the quality of the posts.
 
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Cdx

Audioholic Intern
What do the experts think?
With over 10k downloads, a Facebook group of over 1.5k members and about 1000 pages of its own thread in AVS forum, I think A1 Evo speaks for itself.
After Audyssey room correction I always had little timing issues and my surrounds were never quite right. Here is my personal experience of using this tool. Audyssey does it's processing in the receiver. This script takes the Audyssey measurements and processes the config file using REW on a PC. The results seems to correct Audyssey levels and distances resulting in a more cohesive sound bubble. My surrounds seem perfectly balanced and the timing issues are gone. But for me, the ability to choose different target curves is the game changer. YMMV.
 
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Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
After Audyssey room correction I always had I little timing issues and my surrounds were never quite right. Here is my personal experience of using this tool. Audyssey does it's processing in the receiver. This script takes the Audyssey measurements and processes the config file using REW on a PC. The results seems to correct Audyssey levels and distances resulting in a more cohesive sound bubble. My surrounds seem perfectly balanced and the timing issues are gone. But for me, the ability to choose different target curves is the game changer. YMMV.
The YouTube clip in the OP at his choice of starting point is just showing a number of computer generated graphs for minutes but no actual measurement of the result in the room after applying the claimed corrections. Any level and distance change from Audyssey should be readily measurable.
 
The Commish

The Commish

Enthusiast
I am a fan, a believer and snake oil hater.
I never had the proper bass after a Audyssey calibration until I started using OCA's scripts.

A1 EVO nailed it.

There is no arcane wizardry.
You take a measurement, you export the Ady file via the MultiEQ app.
You use his script in conjunction with REW and the calibrated ady is exported back into the official MultiQ app to be sent to the receiver.

Nothing goes into the receiver that will cause any harm. Perhaps to the reputations of the expensive calibration apps.

Gene, there was a day when you wanted to be a pioneer, be that person again.
Dive deep into the A1 EVO pool and give us your thoughts.
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Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
As I wrote: that is measurable. All the authors of that tool have to do is exactly that so we can see what is done. Some might like the result while others might not, but that is a preference.
 
The Commish

The Commish

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As I wrote: that is measurable. All the authors of that tool have to do is exactly that so we can see what is done. Some might like the result while others might not, but that is a preference.
The REW screen is open on your PC, you can see the measurements prior to uploading to your AVR.
And it costs nothing to run it and listen to the end result, or do more measurements.

There are bunch of target curves available to use to tailor the bass to your liking.

If it's not what you like, then delete it.
It's free.
 
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Cdx

Audioholic Intern
As I wrote: that is measurable. All the authors of that tool have to do is exactly that so we can see what is done. Some might like the result while others might not, but that is a preference.
The answers to your questions will be perfectly clear if you run the tool. Failing that, the script is readily available for anyone to look at.
 
The Commish

The Commish

Enthusiast
As I wrote: that is measurable. All the authors of that tool have to do is exactly that so we can see what is done. Some might like the result while others might not, but that is a preference.
Give it a go mate
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
The REW screen is open on your PC, you can see the measurements prior to uploading to your AVR.
And it costs nothing to run it and listen to the end result, or do more measurements.

There are bunch of target curves available to use to tailor the bass to your liking.

If it's not what you like, then delete it.
It's free.
You’ll have to remeasure after uploading to the AVR to see what the effect is. The creators of the automatic adjustment tool should have given such an example, in my opinion.
 
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