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[lovinthehd]

LOL

 

[Dude#1279435]

LOL

Note the guest said the pastors speech wasn't even remarkable or anything. It's dumb we are even having to explain this Bible grift.

 

[Alex2507]

Yet isn't stoning in the bible?

Yeah but only for bad people.

 

[lovinthehd]

Yeah but only for bad people.

The "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" thing kind of makes most if not all people look bad.

 

[Dude#1279435]

They don't know if they are coming or going, teaching it in public schools and ban it at the same time.

When was the Bible taught in public schools?

Not sure it ever was, but they want it in public schools.

 

[lovinthehd]

Not sure it ever was, but they want it in public schools.

I say draw the line with the amended pledge of allegiance being bad enough....

 

[mono-bloc]

Here we go,, Lets get it right.. So Your bible is really a scammers handbook. We see all this holy crap. every day Men in frocks telling the gugable there going up in the sky to live with the father. The real truth is there going to a hole in the ground, to live with the worms. Or there on a trip to the furnace, once there parted from the coffin. Coffins won't fit in the furnace. They also cut out the implanted knee and hip joints, which they flog on the used joint market.. So you get your pot of ashes, which are swept up off the floor. No sigh of Granny, Her ashes are of to landfill.. O happy days.

That was the good thing about COVID, All the house callers disappeared, So no more visits from Mary and her friend attempting to tell you there truth about heaven, earth, and there mate god.. While they quote line and verse from the scammers handbook.

 

[lovinthehd]

Here we go,, Lets get it right.. So Your bible is really a scammers handbook. We see all this holy crap. every day Men in frocks telling the gugable there going up in the sky to live with the father. The real truth is there going to a hole in the ground, to live with the worms. Or there on a trip to the furnace, once there parted from the coffin. Coffins won't fit in the furnace. They also cut out the implanted knee and hip joints, which they flog on the used joint market.. So you get your pot of ashes, which are swept up off the floor. No sigh of Granny, Her ashes are of to landfill.. O happy days.

That was the good thing about COVID, All the house callers disappeared, So no more visits from Mary and her friend attempting to tell you there truth about heaven, earth, and there mate god.. While they quote line and verse from the scammers handbook.

LOL so what's your scammers handbook say about the "high-end" audio you usually prat on about? Gugable? Gullible like you?

 

[mono-bloc]

o what's your scammers handbook say about the "high-end" audio

I dunno. I know longer subscribe to Stereophile or TAS

 

[Dude#1279435]

I say draw the line with the amended pledge of allegiance being bad enough....

Though I loath the book, I'm actually open to individual choice amongst schools, including public. What they seek is what they get.

- It's a 1000 page book, so something good is in there.
- Has to be reviewed before instruction.
- Or revised with a new book.
- Hopefully for their sake nobody asks why they are not using the Old Testament.
- Clergy would have to be given a heavy background check, if you catch my drift.

Seriously though can't see it happening in public schools. A belief in God has always been an uphill struggle via the bible. Everything I've said though should be pretty obvious LOL.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Yeah but only for bad people.

Doesn't quite appear to be....

https://www.proquest.com/docview/911954210?sourcetype=Scholarly%20Journals

The Old Testament (King James Version) prescribed death punishment by stoning for several crimes (Jacobs, 1964) including stealing (Joshua, 7:20-26), Sabbath breaking (Numbers, 15:32-36), preaching or practicing a different religion, blasphemy (Lev, 24:10- 16), cursing God and the king (Kings, 21:1-16), being a medium or a wizard (Levi, 20:27), being a stubborn or rebellious son (Deut, 21:18-21), and other major crimes. Stoning was one of the primary methods of capital punishment in the Old Testament.

 

[highfigh]

They don't know if they are coming or going, teaching it in public schools and ban it at the same time.

When was the Bible taught in public schools?

It's a secret society that meets in an unused room, after school.

 

[highfigh]

Doesn't quite appear to be....

https://www.proquest.com/docview/911954210?sourcetype=Scholarly%20Journals

The Old Testament (King James Version) prescribed death punishment by stoning for several crimes (Jacobs, 1964) including stealing (Joshua, 7:20-26), Sabbath breaking (Numbers, 15:32-36), preaching or practicing a different religion, blasphemy (Lev, 24:10- 16), cursing God and the king (Kings, 21:1-16), being a medium or a wizard (Levi, 20:27), being a stubborn or rebellious son (Deut, 21:18-21), and other major crimes. Stoning was one of the primary methods of capital punishment in the Old Testament.

Stoning 'was' a primary method of capital punishment? It may not be a primary method, but it's still in use. I searched using 'Stoning in Islam and Middle East in modern times' and found a lot of links.

Think about the average intelligence and level of education about 2000 years ago- it wouldn't be difficult to pull a fast one on most people.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Stoning 'was' a primary method of capital punishment? It may not be a primary method, but it's still in use. I searched using 'Stoning in Islam and Middle East in modern times' and found a lot of links.

Think about the average intelligence and level of education about 2000 years ago- it wouldn't be difficult to pull a fast one on most people.

There's your 'word of God' moment. Note what I highlighted in bold above.

 

[Alex2507]

The "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" thing kind of makes most if not all people look bad.

Some atheist you turned out to be, spouting scripture.

Doesn't quite appear to be....

https://www.proquest.com/docview/911954210?sourcetype=Scholarly%20Journals

The Old Testament (King James Version) prescribed death punishment by stoning for several crimes (Jacobs, 1964) including stealing (Joshua, 7:20-26), Sabbath breaking (Numbers, 15:32-36), preaching or practicing a different religion, blasphemy (Lev, 24:10- 16), cursing God and the king (Kings, 21:1-16), being a medium or a wizard (Levi, 20:27), being a stubborn or rebellious son (Deut, 21:18-21), and other major crimes. Stoning was one of the primary methods of capital punishment in the Old Testament.

Thanks for the concise list! I'm gonna start keeping the sabbath. Can't be too careful.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Not sure it ever was, but they want it in public schools.

No mention of the other religious books. Interesting.
They are worried if they have to create laws to do this for only one book.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yeah but only for bad people.

Alleged bad people. A relative term.

 

[lovinthehd]

Some atheist you turned out to be, spouting scripture.



Thanks for the concise list! I'm gonna start keeping the sabbath. Can't be too careful.

LOL that's about it for me on the scripture stuff.

 

[Rong yes prounonced wrong]

My recommendation isn't one or the other but a spiritual belief in god, love thy neighbor etc. It's an uphill battle though. If you have to LIE about its origins you're going to have a hard time bringing in new people. Common sense says to me it's a dark ages book with some good in there but also a garbled mess with some dark stuff that the pastors have to flip by. It's a BIG volume so you can flip to what ever section you like. Reinterpreted and rewritten. I thought this was a good summary.....

Introduction to the Bible and Biblical Problems » Internet Infidels

Is the Bible the work of God? Is it a valid guidebook? How can we know? This introduction serves as a very basic preface to the makeup of the Bible and to how the Bible came about, as well as to some basic kinds of possible biblical problems—especially the kinds of problems inherent in a...

infidels.org

The Bible consists of a collection of sixty-six separate books. These books were chosen, after a bit of haggling, by the Catholic Council of Carthage in 397 A.D.—more than three hundred years after the time of Jesus. This collection is broken into two major sections: The Old Testament, which consists of thirty-nine books, and The New Testament, which consists of twenty-seven books. (Catholic Bibles include additional books known as the Apocrypha.)

The Old Testament is concerned with the Hebrew God, Yahweh, and purports to be a history of the early Israelites. The New Testament is the work of early Christians and reflects their beliefs about Jesus; it purports to be a history of what Jesus taught and did.

The composition of the various books is thought to have begun around 1000 B.C., and to have continued for about 1,100 years. Much oral material was included. This was repeated from father to son, revised over and over again, and then put into written form by various editors. These editors often worked in different locales and in different time periods, and were not always aware of each other. Their work was primarily intended for local use and it is unlikely that any author foresaw that his work would be included in a "Bible."

No original manuscripts exist. There is not likely even one book which survives in anything like its original form. There are hundreds of differences between the oldest manuscripts of any one book. These differences indicate that numerous additions and alterations, some accidental and some purposeful, were made to the originals by various authors, editors, and copyists.

Many biblical authors are unknown. When an author has been named that name has sometimes been selected by pious believers rather than given by the author himself. The four Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, are examples of books that did not carry the names of their actual authors; the present names were assigned long after these four books were written. And—in spite of what the Gospel authors allege—biblical scholars are now almost unanimously agreed that none of the Gospel authors was either an actual disciple of Jesus or even an eyewitness to his ministry.

Although some books of the Bible are traditionally attributed to a single author, many are actually the work of multiple authors. Genesis and John are two examples of books which reflect multiple authorship.

Many biblical books have the earmarks of fiction. For example, private conversations are often related when no reporter was present. Conversations between God and various individuals are recorded. Prehistoric events are given in great detail. When a story is told by more than one author, there are usually significant differences between one and the other(s). Many stories—stories which in their original context are considered even by Christians to be fictional—were borrowed by the biblical authors, adapted for their own purposes, given a historical setting, and then declared to be fact.

The Flood story is an example of this kind of adaptation. Its migration from the earliest known occurrence in Sumeria, around 1600 B.C., from place to place and eventually to the Bible, can be traced historically. Each time the story was used again, it was altered to speak of local gods and heroes.

But is the Bible, nevertheless, the work of God? Is it a valid guidebook? How can we know?

If the Bible were really the work of a perfect, all-powerful, and loving God, one would reasonably expect it to be superlative in every respect—accurate, clear, concise, and consistent throughout—as compared to anything that could possibly be conceived by human intellect alone.

Fundamentalists, in fact, hold this to be true. Using a circular argument, they say that because the Bible is without error or inconsistency it must be the work of God, and because it is the work of God it must be without error or inconsistency. It seems not to matter which proposition comes first, the other is thought to follow.

Notwithstanding the fundamentalist viewpoint, however, the Bible does contain a number of real problems, and some of these problems are absolutely fatal to its credibility.

Many passages relate God-ordained atrocities; such passages are unworthy of the Christian God. Some biblical precepts are both unreasonable and unlikely since they are in obvious disagreement with common sense as well as the qualities of character which are attributed to God. Some biblical statements are absurd in that they represent primitive, discredited beliefs. The believability of many biblical stories—stories that are crucial to Christianity—are discredited by numerous inconsistencies. The picture is further complicated by the many different and conflicting interpretations that are often given to a specific passage by sincere, well-intentioned believers.

While biblicists are capable of offering some sort of explanation for nearly every biblical problem that has been uncovered, such explanations should be unnecessary. The point is not whether some explanation can be conceived, but rather that a perfect, all-powerful, and loving God certainly could, should, and would do a much better job of it were he to have anything to do with the writing of a book. In fact, anything less than perfection would necessarily negate God's alleged omnipotence and/or perfection.

The evidence which follows, taken from the Bible itself, is but a small portion of that which exists. This evidence demonstrates that the Bible cannot be the literal, complete, inerrant and perfect work of a perfect, all-powerful, and loving God. It also demonstrates that the Bible is not especially useful even as a guidebook. In addition, because the Bible reflects every important belief of traditional Christianity—the foundation of Christianity itself rests on shaky ground.

I assume on principle that you guys here are Americans, right, so I have to ask, you remember the satanic shock-rock group W.A.S.P. in the 1980s? Blackie Lawless now begins each concert with praying... IN THE NAME OF JESUS!!! In the 1990s he began the shows by RAPING A NUN on stage... with a "Dill-Do Knife". Glory hallelujah, truly the LORD liveth, and like Anna Prophettes Of The Most High, I likewise say "Now you let the son of your handmaid depart in peace, for my eyes have surely seen the salvation of God". Blackie Lawless is born again in Christ! And the Devil is probably moaning "How the mighty are fallen!!!"

 

[highfigh]

There's your 'word of God' moment. Note what I highlighted in bold above.

When three religions are founded on Abrahamic tradition, who's correct?

At some point, it almost sounds like the supposed bet between L.Ron Hubbard and Frank Herbert over who could invent a religion that would draw the larger number of followers.

"Let's draw Lots"
"There's only one and he hasn't been the same after his wife was turned into a pillar of salt".