Silly, Goofy, or Eclectic Internet Websites

Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
First off, this isn’t really a rant. I am tired of hearing about Trump getting arrested, and I feel compelled to change the subject to something else. Nothing about what I’ll say here makes me grind my gears. It’s about something completely trivial, but highly entertaining, at least to me.

This is much more recent than any faded memory from my childhood or teen-age years. I want to recall how much fun the internet was during its early years. I’m not referring to the earliest years of the internet, but the time when it was new to me. I had an internet connection at home, as early as the late 1990s (1997?), but it was quite slow, as my computer itself was slow, and I used a dial-up phone line connection. As a result, I used the internet only when I had to.

By 1999 or 2000 I had a high speed internet connection at work, along with a job that required I learn to use its search abilities. I’ve always found I learned computer applications much better if I had to actually perform a real task with it. But I, and others, at work also used it for entertainment too. As the internet was largely new to me, this turned out to be a whole lot of fun.

The internet was great to learn about things from our past that we never really knew much about. If you had vague memories of a movie you saw in the distant past, but could remember very little about it now, the internet made it easy to look up and find definitive answers. I came of age during the 1960s when popular music groups exploded from Great Britain and the US. Most of us only learned of them by listening to the radio. Real information was scarce. Rumors, most of them false, spread rapidly. Apparently there were fan magazines, but I never read them. The internet allowed sorting out that kind info once and for all. I won’t bother with examples of this, but I’m pretty sure many of us can.

I particularly enjoyed stumbling over websites that were simply goofy. One of the first gems I remember was a website called the Database of Misheard Lyrics (or something like that). There were many pop music songs we heard over the radio, where the lyrics weren’t very easy to hear. This web page offered a long and growing list of songs that people often heard or remembered in garbled form. A common example was Credence Clearwater Revival’s “Bad Moon Rising”. Instead of “there’s a bad moon on the rise”, many people swore they heard “there’s a bathroom on the right”.

Showing the correct lyrics was only the beginning. It went on to show people’s accounts of how they first learned they had the lyrics wrong. It usually involved innocently singing the wrong words out loud, among friends. It was hilarious to read those accounts. There are now versions of that old site that are better organized, but they’ve lost the sense of fun when it came to the first time someone learned how silly they sounded.

I looked for this website – it’s still around, https://www.kissthisguy.com/ . It might still be funny to others, but it’s lost the appeal it once had for me. Like many jokes, they’re never as funny as when you first heard them. I also admit that I’m not at all interested in misheard lyrics from Taylor Swift songs. All the advertisements on that site don’t help. But if you’ve never seen it, it’s worth a look. A decent example: Robert Palmer’s song Addicted to Love, where the words “Might as well face it, you’re addicted to love” were misheard as “Might as well face it, you’re a d!ck with a glove”. Someone posted “I thought it was a song about Michael Jackson, so I asked a friend if he had heard this song. He had me recite the lyrics. He laughed at me for days”.

Does anyone remember the website about Ninjas and Pirates? The website I remember presented itself as being written by an immature 10 or 11 year old boy who obsessed endlessly over whether Ninjas could beat up Pirates in an all-out fight. He favored Ninjas because they he felt they were just cooler. I’m doing a poor job at conveying how funny it was, I guess you had to read it. And, you had to read it back when it was a fresh idea. Since then, the Ninjas vs. Pirates theme has been beaten into the ground, over and over. It quickly stopped being funny. I looked for it as I wrote this, but couldn’t find it.

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Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
And now, onto a web page that first made me want to write about this topic … Stinking Badges … as in “We Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Badges”. I don’t know about you, but I’ve always wondered where that phrase came from. (I tried talking about this to my wife, but her eyes quickly glazed over. I could tell she was not the right audience.)

The line about “Stinkin’ badges” first appeared in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, a 1948 movie with Humphrey Bogart. It was based on a novel with the same title, published in 1935. I’ve never read the book, but I’ve seen the movie. Maybe many of us have. It was a drama about how greed and envy can eat you up.

Alfonso Bedoya, a well-known character actor from that time, played the classic cliché Mexican bandito in this movie. He was the first to first say that line about stinkin’ badges. Actually his line was a bit longer, “I don’t got to show you no badge. I don’t got no stinkin’ badge.” But over time, this line got shortened.
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https://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cine/alfonso_bedoya.jpg

Many of us remember the Mel Brooks movie, Blazing Saddles, from 1974. It was famous for hundreds or thousands of quick jokes that would overwhelm a movie theater audience with laughter. (This movie pre-dated home VCRs.) Once a crowd got started laughing, that movie kept them in stiches for the rest of the movie. It was one of Mel Brooks’ talents.

In one scene, a sinister looking Mexican bandito heading a group of similarly attired henchmen, delivered one of those quick one-liners, “We don’t need no stinkin’ badges”. It got an instant response from the movie audience, as if they recognized a joke they already knew well.

So my real question is this: When did this famous line first appear in movies or TV as a joke? And, just how did it become transformed from a serious threat in a 1948 Humphrey Bogart movie, to a widely recognized joke by 1974? This genuine cultural phenomenon had never been addressed by any scholar of 20th century pop culture.

I think this topic first came up at work with some lunch buddies, sometime in the early 2000s. Soon after lunch, I ran a Google search, querying the entire phrase “We don’t need no stinking badges”. I was stunned to find a single hit:
http://www.rudebadmood.com/badges/allindex.shtml

This webpage, which still exists, was entirely devoted to this obscure question. It also briefly explained why:
Finally, you're probably wondering, "Why?" Well, back in high school, I had a really cool English teacher named Ms. Coates. She loved English and Classics, spoke French, read Greek, Latin, and probably other dead languages I know nothing about. She spoke properly and precisely, as an English teacher should. But she also loved pop and alternative culture. She talked about Rick Astley videos, and seeing The Red Hot Chili Peppers before they were big.

Anyways, Ms. Coates had a folder with Stinking Badges references she'd collected through the years, including a really nice collection of Farley cartoons that I have yet to replicate. I think she was amused and intrigued with how the phrase became so ingrained in culture, and so often referenced.

Sadly, Ms. Coates passed away in October 2002, far too early … I had some spare space on my webhosting account, so I figured, why not continue her very important work?
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Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
When I first stumbled over this, no answer to this burning question was known. But it was already known that Blazing Saddles in 1974 was not the first time it appeared as a joke. As early as 1967, this line appeared as a joke in a short-lived TV show, called The Monkees. The Monkees were a pop music band and a TV show, invented in 1965 or 66 by Hollywood TV producers who thought they could cash in on the popularity of British Invasion bands, such as The Beatles. I doubt if anyone other than teeny-boppers watched The Monkees. That TV show may very well have participated in converting "Stinkin' Badges" into a widely recognized joke, but it couldn't be solely responsible.

Before The Monkees, came Al “Jazzbo” Collins, a radio DJ and local TV show host. By the late 50s and early 60s, he was on stations in California, alternating between Los Angeles and San Francisco. He occasionally substituted on late night national TV shows, such as The Tonight Show, before Johnny Carson’s days. But he never quite made it to the big leagues of network TV. However, his local TV shows were popular during the early to mid 1960s in California.

Collins often had guests on his TV show, usually older performers who once were minor stars and who missed being in front of a camera. As a regular bit, Collins had his guests put on a fake mustache and Mexican sombrero, and recite that line, “We don’t need no stinkin’ badges!”. The audience would rate them on how well they delivered the line. Highest approval went to those who could say it with the proper sounding mock menace and mock Mexican accent. Most guests had to repeat the line several times before they earned full audience approval – they must have been a tough crowd. Only then did Al Collins swear the guest into his growing ‘Society of Bandidos’. They received a mock badge, printed on a small cardboard square, like a paper drink coaster:
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RM7byPKspZI/maxresdefault.jpg
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https://i0.wp.com/bayarearadio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/jazzbo_kgo-sticker.png?resize=215,239&ssl=1

I once saw a YT video of an elderly Moe Howard, of Three Stooges fame, on the Al Collins show. He nailed the audition for Bandido membership. Sadly, I cannot find it anymore.

Apparently, this show was popular in both Los Angeles and San Francisco during the early 1960s. The Bandido bit was repeated so often it became a widely recognized and well loved joke, at least in California. Of course, that's where all those TV (The Monkees) and movie writers lived (Blazing Saddles). This was the answer to the burning question of how did “We don’t need no stinkin’ badges” become a gag line widely recognized as a joke.

Now you might understand why I felt the urgent need to point out this important but forgotten bit of pop culture to the public in 2023.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I love this thread!!!!

I know we gotta vent the negative out but we also got to vent the positive out as well.

I bet you everyone no matter they're beliefs or political leanings are tired sometimes of all the drama the last few years. I think it's important to remember that underneath it all we are all just really amazing human beings. I'd wager money that if most of us sat down one human being to another and put all that crap to the side we'd be suprised how well we'd tend to get along.

So this thread is awesome! Might I make a suggestion @Swerd? I think this thread might get the traction it really deserves with a title change. Something like what are the silliest but goofy and funny and eclectic wacky sites you love that you've discovered over the internet over time? I'm going to post one right now!
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
Okay so working in mental health. We cuss a lot. Not at or in front of our patients but to ourselves in the back. It's just a healthy way I think as a team to vent. Dirty jokes are very common back they're. It's hilarious when some tiny sweet 90lb innocent librarian looking nurse just spouts off the dirtiest raunchiest joke or tirade you can think of.

So I've always appreciated this gem on the internet. And I've shared it with all my family and friends before to they're delight or dismay :D

Gentlemen I proudly present to you the many uses and therapeutic values of the word?

F@#ck! ;)

 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
P.S. I have plenty more goofy or eclectic sites. Can't wait to hear some of the gems you guys have discovered over the years!
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I've really appreciated the study of animals and how humans can mimic they're behaviour in the wild! Gentleman I proudly present to you.......

How animals eat they're food!

 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
So this thread is awesome! Might I make a suggestion @Swerd? I think this thread might get the traction it really deserves with a title change. Something like what are the silliest but goofy and funny and eclectic wacky sites you love that you've discovered over the internet over time?
Good idea. Done!
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
Swerd, I know how you feel. Back then, the internet was MUCH, MUCH smaller, and these curious and bizarre communities were much easier to find. I will say that bizarre and curious didn't disappear, but "thanks" to Google's search algorithm, which tends to bring the most popular results first, they are definitely much harder to find.

Reddit, for example. It's massive, but discovering new and interesting subs is challenging. Some weird ones become popular, like r/TiresAreTheEnemy or incomprehensibly titled "r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG".
It all comes back to the discovery of stuff, and search engines are not much help unless you have a black belt in Google-Fu (I do)

Also, as Dan mentioned, YouTube is another great source of some absolutely golden channels, but the most popular ones tend to become all the same annoying format.

Stuff on YT I love:
AT Restoration
Watch Wes Work
Primitive Technology
Backyard Ballistics
Wolfgang's

Stuff on YT I Like:
Project Farm
Asianometry
vehcor
Diesel Creek
Gamers Nexus (that one stride between love and like)
Pine Hollow diag
LockPincking Lawyer
and bunch of wristwatch repair channels
Mark Novak

Stuff on YT I hate:
Linus Tech Tips, ChrisFix
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Swerd, I know how you feel. Back then, the internet was MUCH, MUCH smaller, and these curious and bizarre communities were much easier to find. I will say that bizarre and curious didn't disappear, but "thanks" to Google's search algorithm, which tends to bring the most popular results first, they are definitely much harder to find.

Reddit, for example. It's massive, but discovering new and interesting subs is challenging. Some weird ones become popular, like r/TiresAreTheEnemy or incomprehensibly titled "r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG".
It all comes back to the discovery of stuff, and search engines are not much help unless you have a black belt in Google-Fu (I do)

Also, as Dan mentioned, YouTube is another great source of some absolutely golden channels, but the most popular ones tend to become all the same annoying format.

Stuff on YT I love:
AT Restoration
Watch Wes Work
Primitive Technology
Backyard Ballistics
Wolfgang's

Stuff on YT I Like:
Project Farm
Asianometry
vehcor
Diesel Creek
Gamers Nexus (that one stride between love and like)
Pine Hollow diag
LockPincking Lawyer
and bunch of wristwatch repair channels
Mark Novak

Stuff on YT I hate:
Linus Tech Tips, ChrisFix
ChrisFix?
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
When I first stumbled over this, no answer to this burning question was known. But it was already known that Blazing Saddles in 1974 was not the first time it appeared as a joke. As early as 1967, this line appeared as a joke in a short-lived TV show, called The Monkees. The Monkees were a pop music band and a TV show, invented in 1965 or 66 by Hollywood TV producers who thought they could cash in on the popularity of British Invasion bands, such as The Beatles. I doubt if anyone other than teeny-boppers watched The Monkees. That TV show may very well have participated in converting "Stinkin' Badges" into a widely recognized joke, but it couldn't be solely responsible.

Before The Monkees, came Al “Jazzbo” Collins, a radio DJ and local TV show host. By the late 50s and early 60s, he was on stations in California, alternating between Los Angeles and San Francisco. He occasionally substituted on late night national TV shows, such as The Tonight Show, before Johnny Carson’s days. But he never quite made it to the big leagues of network TV. However, his local TV shows were popular during the early to mid 1960s in California.

Collins often had guests on his TV show, usually older performers who once were minor stars and who missed being in front of a camera. As a regular bit, Collins had his guests put on a fake mustache and Mexican sombrero, and recite that line, “We don’t need no stinkin’ badges!”. The audience would rate them on how well they delivered the line. Highest approval went to those who could say it with the proper sounding mock menace and mock Mexican accent. Most guests had to repeat the line several times before they earned full audience approval – they must have been a tough crowd. Only then did Al Collins swear the guest into his growing ‘Society of Bandidos’. They received a mock badge, printed on a small cardboard square, like a paper drink coaster:
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https://i0.wp.com/bayarearadio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/jazzbo_kgo-sticker.png?resize=215,239&ssl=1

I once saw a YT video of an elderly Moe Howard, of Three Stooges fame, on the Al Collins show. He nailed the audition for Bandido membership. Sadly, I cannot find it anymore.

Apparently, this show was popular in both Los Angeles and San Francisco during the early 1960s. The Bandido bit was repeated so often it became a widely recognized and well loved joke, at least in California. Of course, that's where all those TV (The Monkees) and movie writers lived (Blazing Saddles). This was the answer to the burning question of how did “We don’t need no stinkin’ badges” become a gag line widely recognized as a joke.

Now you might understand why I felt the urgent need to point out this important but forgotten bit of pop culture to the public in 2023.
I always thought the "stinkin' badges" bit started with Blazing Saddles. What an interesting tidbit.
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
I guess it would surprise nobody that I'm a bit of a news/politics junkie. Distraction from the political threads was part of my motivation to post about the Artemis moon mission. So yes, other interesting topics are certainly welcome.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
I found a web site that confirms the general story of Al Collins and his Bandidos.

https://archive.org/details/AlJazzbeauxCollinsMovieWithJonHammondKCSMJazz91Ver2.0

The web page includes a video, I watched it all, but it said nothing about the Bandidos, or any missing Moe Howard clip. Don't bother watching it. However, the text below the video is noteworthy. It confirms the general story and offers more details:
In the early 1960s Collins hosted a morning TV program, "The Al Collins Show," that aired on KGO-TV in San Francisco (the ABC affiliate). The format included light talk and guest appearances. The guest lineup typically included local or state-wide celebrities, and B-list actors, such as Moe Howard of The Three Stooges.

A popular segment on his show was the "no stinkin' badges" routine. Al would politely request the main guest for that day don a Mexican bandit costume, complete with ammo belts crossing the chest, six-guns in holsters, a huge sombrero and large fake mustache. The guest then had to pose in front of cameras and for the TV audience. With pistols pointing at the camera lens the guest had to say (with emphasis) "I don't got to show you no stinkin' badges." If the guest did not say it with sufficient sinister tone Collins made him or her repeat it until in Al's opinion the guest got it right. Collins' bit was a play on a famous exchange in the 1948 film The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. In one scene some obviously very bad bandidos try to pass themselves off to Bogart as federales (police). Humphrey Bogart's character knows they are not federales but nevertheless asks to see some badges. The bandito-in-charge responds "Badges?! I don't got no badges. We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinkin' badge." Collins reduced the guest bandit's lines to the single phrase so it was easy for the guest to recite.
Still looking for the Moe Howard Stinking badge video.
 
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Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
Here's the original stinking badges clip from the 1948 movie The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Or just Faux News, always good for a laugh except for all the harm they do.
 
Eppie

Eppie

Audioholic Ninja
We'll, if it wasn't for the wonderful internet we wouldn't be here.

I got into computers early with an Atari 800XL and 300 baud modem. I thought it was fantastic that I could upload assignments to university in the dead of winter. Early BBSs (forums were referred to as Bulletin Board Systems) were about gaming and music. I guess that hasn't changed much.

While many people joined America On Line I went with CompuServe in Canada. I even became involved in some volunteer forum admin work in gaming and anime (when people traded anime VHS tapes). CompuServe had decent dial up internet and some great communities. I built my first PC at that time, a PC-XT clone (8088) with a 1200 baud modem.

I also subscribed to another service called Genie. Not as slick an interface but some unique "roundtables" (their term for forums). They ran one of the first multiplayer games called Multiplayer Battletech based on the Battletech roleplaying game by FASA Interactive. It's a rich universe with novels, board games and computer games (aka the Mechwarrior franchise) and Michael Stackpole was one of my favorite authors.

In the Genie game you would join a "House" or faction and it was quite sophisticated. They had military ranks and an organizational structure for each house. They would organize raids on a planet and players would schedule times to meet and attack in 3 person groups. Enough victories for one side would garner control of the planet. Capture enough planets and you conquer the system. Games would last for weeks and if one faction won they would reset the system. The game was server based and you connected through a special client. There were chat rooms for each house and people would continue to role play in the chats. It was quite the community and nothing else like it at the time.

When Mechwarrior games came to the PC the graphics were much improved over Genie and we organized our own competition ladders and played one on one via modem. We initially had to exchange phone numbers and dial each other directly. Later versions of the game added network code so you could connect via a server like today. Lag was a much bigger problem back them as connection speeds varied so much.

Years later in 2013 Mechwarrior Online came out as a massively multiplayer game with modern graphics (still running today). I was surprised to find some of the same players from Genie from almost 20 years earlier still playing these games! Some die hard fans in that group.
 
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panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
Swerd, I know how you feel. Back then, the internet was MUCH, MUCH smaller, and these curious and bizarre communities were much easier to find. I will say that bizarre and curious didn't disappear, but "thanks" to Google's search algorithm, which tends to bring the most popular results first, they are definitely much harder to find.

Reddit, for example. It's massive, but discovering new and interesting subs is challenging. Some weird ones become popular, like r/TiresAreTheEnemy or incomprehensibly titled "r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG".
It all comes back to the discovery of stuff, and search engines are not much help unless you have a black belt in Google-Fu (I do)

Also, as Dan mentioned, YouTube is another great source of some absolutely golden channels, but the most popular ones tend to become all the same annoying format.

Stuff on YT I love:
AT Restoration
Watch Wes Work
Primitive Technology
Backyard Ballistics
Wolfgang's

Stuff on YT I Like:
Project Farm
Asianometry
vehcor
Diesel Creek
Gamers Nexus (that one stride between love and like)
Pine Hollow diag
LockPincking Lawyer
and bunch of wristwatch repair channels
Mark Novak

Stuff on YT I hate:
Linus Tech Tips, ChrisFix
I'm curious as to why you don't like Linus. I know my reasons.

I'm a big fan of the Hot Ones interview show myself, but I don't really watch a lot on YouTube. I guess I should branch out as it seems I'm missing some stuff.

One site I miss a lot is the old school Cracked. It was pretty damn good, and it's a shame it's turned into what it is now.
 
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