Please give me feedback on this proposed system

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KollyKibber

Enthusiast
I would like some feedback on this proposed home cinema/hi-fi/gaming set up.

I’m renting, so unfortunately I can’t install in-ceiling speakers, so will have to make do with upfiring speakers for Atmos.

I’ve attached a photo of the living space so you can see what I’m working with; not an ideal set up by any means but I work with what I’ve got. Where I have marked A is the wall where the TV will go. I know that having empty space to the right side is bad; I will try and mitigate it with a loaded bookshelf or similar.

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I am based in Germany.

Processor: Anthem AVM-70 8K

Power Amps: NAD M23 for the mains, maybe something from Emotiva for the centre and surrounds etc. like the Emotiva BasX A7. Or I could just get an M28 but I think that level of quality is unnecessary for this setup since I’m not going to be driving the surrounds or heights particularly hard.

Main left right speakers: Perlisten S5m w/stands – I had originally intended to get the floorstanding R7t or R5t, but I figured there was no need for speakers of that size in a room my size, better to spend the money on the higher quality of the S series.

Centre Speaker: Perlisten S5c or possibly something cheaper as the Perlisten is probably unecessary for my size of system. Perhaps an Arendal 1723

Sub: Don’t know. Maybe a couple of SVS or Arendal subs. I can’t run them optimally anyway since I am in an apartment and don’t want to annoy the neighbours. Something ported.

Rear speakers: SVS Ultra Surrounds or SVS Prime Satellites since they’re a lot less important.

Atmos speakers: Kef R8 Meta – hopefully they would fit ok on top of the Perlistens. Or SVS Prime Elevation/Arendal 1961 Heights

I’ll leave off the set up for sources since I already have all of them and am not looking to make changes.

Any suggestions appreciated.
 
NINaudio

NINaudio

Audioholic Samurai
I'd honestly just skip the atmos speakers since you can't mount them in the ceiling.

I'd also stick with Perlisten for the center so as to match your l/r.
 
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Wardog555

Full Audioholic
Mount speakers onto the ceiling then if not doing in ceiling.
1961 heights will work for this. OR use posts/pillars and mount the atmos to them.

And don't sit too far. Away from the screen.
Depending on size. I'd say up to 3m maximum for 77 inches
For 65 inches more like 2 meters or so. Up to 1.5 meters for high level of viewing immersion.

You don't want to skimp out on the surrounds. Willing to do Perlisten there too?

One of those two subwoofer brands should be good. I have a svs pb 1000 pro myself. But not certain if it's enough for this room.

And enjoy!
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Mount speakers onto the ceiling then if not doing in ceiling.
1961 heights will work for this. OR use posts/pillars and mount the atmos to them.

And don't sit too far. Away from the screen.
Depending on size. I'd say up to 3m maximum for 77 inches
For 65 inches more like 2 meters or so. Up to 1.5 meters for high level of viewing immersion.

You don't want to skimp out on the surrounds. Willing to do Perlisten there too?

One of those two subwoofer brands should be good. I have a svs pb 1000 pro myself. But not certain if it's enough for this room.

And enjoy!
I sit 8-10 feet away from a 55” tv in one room and 9-11 away in the other room.
I would like some feedback on this proposed home cinema/hi-fi/gaming set up.

I’m renting, so unfortunately I can’t install in-ceiling speakers, so will have to make do with upfiring speakers for Atmos.

I’ve attached a photo of the living space so you can see what I’m working with; not an ideal set up by any means but I work with what I’ve got. Where I have marked A is the wall where the TV will go. I know that having empty space to the right side is bad; I will try and mitigate it with a loaded bookshelf or similar.

View attachment 60310

I am based in Germany.

Processor: Anthem AVM-70 8K

Power Amps: NAD M23 for the mains, maybe something from Emotiva for the centre and surrounds etc. like the Emotiva BasX A7. Or I could just get an M28 but I think that level of quality is unnecessary for this setup since I’m not going to be driving the surrounds or heights particularly hard.

Main left right speakers: Perlisten S5m w/stands – I had originally intended to get the floorstanding R7t or R5t, but I figured there was no need for speakers of that size in a room my size, better to spend the money on the higher quality of the S series.

Centre Speaker: Perlisten S5c or possibly something cheaper as the Perlisten is probably unecessary for my size of system. Perhaps an Arendal 1723

Sub: Don’t know. Maybe a couple of SVS or Arendal subs. I can’t run them optimally anyway since I am in an apartment and don’t want to annoy the neighbours. Something ported.

Rear speakers: SVS Ultra Surrounds or SVS Prime Satellites since they’re a lot less important.

Atmos speakers: Kef R8 Meta – hopefully they would fit ok on top of the Perlistens. Or SVS Prime Elevation/Arendal 1961 Heights

I’ll leave off the set up for sources since I already have all of them and am not looking to make changes.

Any suggestions appreciated.
Just get the best 5ch speakers you can get use the Atmos Money torward that . I’m running 4ch from 5 it sounds perfectly for movies or tv . While people say bi amping is useless I tried it because I have 2 -3 unused channels.
I’d suggest largest subs you can fit or carry in a room that size .
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
So that’s like 6 different brands for one system?

I am way too OCD for that. :D

How about 1 brand for all the speakers? I can see using a different brand for subs if you don’t have the budget and need something a lot cheaper.

$8K for an AVP? I would reallocate a lot of that money to the speakers and use one brand of amps for all the speakers.

Anyway, pardon the interruption. I’m feeling a little dizzy due to my OCD. :D
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
So that’s like 6 different brands for one system?

I am way too OCD for that. :D

How about 1 brand for all the speakers? I can see using a different brand for subs if you don’t have the budget and need something a lot cheaper.

$8K for an AVP? I would reallocate a lot of that money to the speakers and use one brand of amps for all the speakers.

Anyway, pardon the interruption. I’m feeling a little dizzy due to my OCD. :D
And I thought you were an 8K enthusiast. The AVM 90 is closer to $8K at $7500, tho, the 70 is only $3400 (USD).


For OP:
Some have had some buggy experiences with the Anthem units, I'd probably be fine with a Marantz pre-pro myself, and while very nice the NAD amps aren't cheap either, I'd be looking at something less expensive using Hypex or Purifi models (like Audiophonics or Boxem perhaps). Perlisten could be very nice, but Arendal is quite a good option for speakers and subs, but I'd probably stick to one or the other for the set. I'd skip the bouncy Atmos speakers.
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
And I thought you were an 8K enthusiast. The AVM 90 is closer to $8K at $7500, tho, the 70 is only $3400 (USD).


For OP:
Some have had some buggy experiences with the Anthem units, I'd probably be fine with a Marantz pre-pro myself, and while very nice the NAD amps aren't cheap either, I'd be looking at something less expensive using Hypex or Purifi models (like Audiophonics or Boxem perhaps). Perlisten could be very nice, but Arendal is quite a good option for speakers and subs, but I'd probably stick to one or the other for the set. I'd skip the bouncy Atmos speakers.
Wish I had that kind of money to drop on an avr my car didn’t even cost 8k closer to 7-7.5 and it’s falling apart junker basically sold for mint condition price Corolla. Still runs ok just loud and can’t go past 60 on highway well.
I would like some feedback on this proposed home cinema/hi-fi/gaming set up.

I’m renting, so unfortunately I can’t install in-ceiling speakers, so will have to make do with upfiring speakers for Atmos.

I’ve attached a photo of the living space so you can see what I’m working with; not an ideal set up by any means but I work with what I’ve got. Where I have marked A is the wall where the TV will go. I know that having empty space to the right side is bad; I will try and mitigate it with a loaded bookshelf or similar.

View attachment 60310

I am based in Germany.

Processor: Anthem AVM-70 8K

Power Amps: NAD M23 for the mains, maybe something from Emotiva for the centre and surrounds etc. like the Emotiva BasX A7. Or I could just get an M28 but I think that level of quality is unnecessary for this setup since I’m not going to be driving the surrounds or heights particularly hard.

Main left right speakers: Perlisten S5m w/stands – I had originally intended to get the floorstanding R7t or R5t, but I figured there was no need for speakers of that size in a room my size, better to spend the money on the higher quality of the S series.

Centre Speaker: Perlisten S5c or possibly something cheaper as the Perlisten is probably unecessary for my size of system. Perhaps an Arendal 1723

Sub: Don’t know. Maybe a couple of SVS or Arendal subs. I can’t run them optimally anyway since I am in an apartment and don’t want to annoy the neighbours. Something ported.

Rear speakers: SVS Ultra Surrounds or SVS Prime Satellites since they’re a lot less important.

Atmos speakers: Kef R8 Meta – hopefully they would fit ok on top of the Perlistens. Or SVS Prime Elevation/Arendal 1961 Heights

I’ll leave off the set up for sources since I already have all of them and am not looking to make changes.

Any suggestions appreciated.
Why are you spending so much money on amps and a receiver do you plan on getting very low sensitivity speakers ? Avr go outdated pretty often , might as well get a processor if you’re dropping 8k . Although you’d need an amp for every channel and might have to lower the budget per channel.
I can’t tell any difference in sound quantity from my $1500 msrp avr and the one I got used for $40 honestly… you may just be wasting money that could be invested in speakers .
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
And I thought you were an 8K enthusiast. The AVM 90 is closer to $8K at $7500, tho, the 70 is only $3400 (USD).


For OP:
Some have had some buggy experiences with the Anthem units, I'd probably be fine with a Marantz pre-pro myself, and while very nice the NAD amps aren't cheap either, I'd be looking at something less expensive using Hypex or Purifi models (like Audiophonics or Boxem perhaps). Perlisten could be very nice, but Arendal is quite a good option for speakers and subs, but I'd probably stick to one or the other for the set. I'd skip the bouncy Atmos speakers.
Oops, I misread. I thought it was $8K, but it was 8K-Video Resolution. :D

Yes, I am a big fan of the 8K-Resolution Digital Cameras like the RED Monstro, RED Weapon Helium, and Panavision DXL2 that are used to shoot movies. :D

As for my $7500 Denon AVP-A1HD, I used to spend a lot more when I was younger, but now I spend a little less. If the Marantz AV10 and AMP10 were available back then (instead of the AVP-A1), I would have gotten the matching set. :D
 
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Movie2099

Audioholic General
Oops, I misread. I thought it was $8K, but it was 8K-Video Resolution. :D

Yes, I am a big fan of the 8K-Resolution Digital Cameras like the RED Monstro, RED Weapon Helium, and Panavision DXL2 that are used to shoot movies. :D

As for my $7500 Denon AVP-A1HD, I used to spend a lot more when I was younger, but now I spend a little less. If the Marantz AV10 and AMP10 were available back then (instead of the AVP-A1), I would have gotten the matching set. :D
I think the Anthem to this dudes system is a solid choice, but the random speakers all over the place, not so much. To sub or not to sub, that is the question..... He should just get one sub and start with that. He said he lives in an apt and doesn't want to bother neighbors. So I would start with one and if it doesn't bother the neighbors, jump to two. He should start with a simple 5.1 system and go from there.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Processor: Anthem AVM-70
I think the Anthem to this dudes system is a solid choice, but the random speakers all over the place, not so much.
...Some have had some buggy experiences with the Anthem units...
I think for many of us who live in the USA, warranty service is usually more straight forward or more accessible or available. But for other people in other continents, it might be more difficult.

So no matter which brand you buy, just make sure you do your homework to see how you would get warranty service. If you can't even get a hold of the customer service BEFORE you buy, you can forget about it AFTER you buy. :D
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
Maybe I’m stating the obvious, but there is another choice for Atmos besides in ceiling and up firing. You can do front and rear heights high up on the walls. Such as SVS Prime Elevation.

I’m also not sure about if Anthem is still buggy or not. Think Denon or Marantz or Yamaha are better bets.

And IMHO, the center channel speaker is not a good place to compromise. Maybe go to a lower series so the front 3 can match.

I see no reason to match sub brands. Ported dual subs if you are able to be loud where you are renting. Likely you may need to replace plate amps at some point so being able to swap a plate amp to repair it is a consideration over time. I’m not sure what brands are great in Germany though.
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Maybe I’m stating the obvious, but there is another choice for Atmos besides in ceiling and up firing. You can do front and rear heights high up on the walls. Such as SVS Prime Elevation.

I’m also not sure about if Anthem is still buggy or not. Think Denon or Marantz or Yamaha are better bets.

And IMHO, the center channel speaker is not a good place to compromise. Maybe go to a lower series so the front 3 can match.

I see no reason to match sub brands. Ported dual subs if you are able to be loud where you are renting. Likely you may need to replace plate amps at some point so being able to swap a plate amp to repair it is a consideration over time. I’m not sure what brands are great in Germany though.
Yeah if op is going to cheap out on center he’s be better off spending more in two towers currently I’m running phantom with towers it sounds great. Wish I could afford anthem avr lol so pricey :(
 
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Wardog555

Full Audioholic
Maybe I’m stating the obvious, but there is another choice for Atmos besides in ceiling and up firing. You can do front and rear heights high up on the walls. Such as SVS Prime Elevation
This situation would work only if you're sitting like 1.5 meters away from the wall for the right angles. If you're too far away like well over 2 plus meters. It's not going to sound overhead like it's Designed to be. And chances are people tend to sit closer to the back rather than the front. And that means the front heights will blend in with the front stage and cause a large hole overhead.
 
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Golfx

Senior Audioholic
I would like some feedback on this proposed home cinema/hi-fi/gaming set up.

I’m renting, so unfortunately I can’t install in-ceiling speakers, so will have to make do with upfiring speakers for Atmos.

I’ve attached a photo of the living space so you can see what I’m working with; not an ideal set up by any means but I work with what I’ve got. Where I have marked A is the wall where the TV will go. I know that having empty space to the right side is bad; I will try and mitigate it with a loaded bookshelf or similar.

View attachment 60310

I am based in Germany.

Processor: Anthem AVM-70 8K

Power Amps: NAD M23 for the mains, maybe something from Emotiva for the centre and surrounds etc. like the Emotiva BasX A7. Or I could just get an M28 but I think that level of quality is unnecessary for this setup since I’m not going to be driving the surrounds or heights particularly hard.

Main left right speakers: Perlisten S5m w/stands – I had originally intended to get the floorstanding R7t or R5t, but I figured there was no need for speakers of that size in a room my size, better to spend the money on the higher quality of the S series.

Centre Speaker: Perlisten S5c or possibly something cheaper as the Perlisten is probably unecessary for my size of system. Perhaps an Arendal 1723

Sub: Don’t know. Maybe a couple of SVS or Arendal subs. I can’t run them optimally anyway since I am in an apartment and don’t want to annoy the neighbours. Something ported.

Rear speakers: SVS Ultra Surrounds or SVS Prime Satellites since they’re a lot less important.

Atmos speakers: Kef R8 Meta – hopefully they would fit ok on top of the Perlistens. Or SVS Prime Elevation/Arendal 1961 Heights

I’ll leave off the set up for sources since I already have all of them and am not looking to make changes.

Any suggestions appreciated.
I originally had SVS surrounds and rear surrounds with my perlisten LCRs (S7t &C). After about a couple of weeks the SVS started to grate on me, sounding brassy and I got listener’s fatigue listening to auromatic upmixed music. I did mix in Revel M8s for my Mid Heights (size dilemma) with good results. I would suspect Arendal would blend well also. I would stick with Perlisten for the LCR though.
 
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