Yamaha rx-a3080 firmware issue

[highfigh]

Do you know how to turn auto updates off, if it has them? I went through the user manual. From what I can tell, unless things have changed, and the manual not updated, that receiver does not have an auto update feature. It says updates are by notification only, and you can accept or reject them. I'm pretty sure I read that correctly.

As I have posted many times, these AVRs have the ability to be controlled via AP, which allows access to many settings that aren't available on the front panel or with the remote. It can probablybe changed in the app, but I don't usually resort to that when I'm working with systems that can be set up in some other way.

The section about updates is in the manual on pg 163 an contains:

"New firmware that provides additional features or product improvements will be released as needed. Updates can be downloaded from the Yamaha website. If the unit is connected to the Internet, you can download the firmware via the network. For details, refer to the information supplied with updates.

Firmware update procedure Do not perform this procedure unless firmware update is necessary. Also, make sure you read the information supplied with updates before updating the firmware. 1 Press STRAIGHT repeatedly to select “USB” or “NETWORK” and press INFO to start firmware update."

It should show a message stating that an update is available and it gives the options of Start, Close and Later.

 

[Dave67]

Both missed one fact

I moved house. Both AVRs packed up then setup again. Both then went through initial setup whereby it updates firmware. Yamaha technician confirmed this and no way stopping it and no way backing it out. Initialise All, or a reset doesn't touch firmware. It can't.

Whether it's flash the BIOS, reinstall, whatever the Yamaha technician here had to get approval to access something on Yamaha tech site.

It's also not as simple as updated via wifi. We are long past dial up connections. If that's an issue it should not be available.

Today, tomorrow I should get back so happy it's all fixed. After a few good movies with Dolby Atmos I might finish unpacking...

 

[TLS Guy]

Both missed one fact

I moved house. Both AVRs packed up then setup again. Both then went through initial setup whereby it updates firmware. Yamaha technician confirmed this and no way stopping it and no way backing it out. Initialise All, or a reset doesn't touch firmware. It can't.

Whether it's flash the BIOS, reinstall, whatever the Yamaha technician here had to get approval to access something on Yamaha tech site.

It's also not as simple as updated via wifi. We are long past dial up connections. If that's an issue it should not be available.

Today, tomorrow I should get back so happy it's all fixed. After a few good movies with Dolby Atmos I might finish unpacking...

In that case the user manual has significant errors. If what you say is correct, then that is a very bad policy and engineering on the part of Yamaha. They need to review that pronto, or you will not be the only one to have that hassle. I can tell you, that in the US you would likely have been without your units for weeks and maybe months.

 

[lovinthehd]

Both missed one fact

I moved house. Both AVRs packed up then setup again. Both then went through initial setup whereby it updates firmware. Yamaha technician confirmed this and no way stopping it and no way backing it out. Initialise All, or a reset doesn't touch firmware. It can't.

Whether it's flash the BIOS, reinstall, whatever the Yamaha technician here had to get approval to access something on Yamaha tech site.

It's also not as simple as updated via wifi. We are long past dial up connections. If that's an issue it should not be available.

Today, tomorrow I should get back so happy it's all fixed. After a few good movies with Dolby Atmos I might finish unpacking...

A soft reset (unplugging it) shouldn't just reenable auto update IMHO. I can see it happening, tho.

 

[TLS Guy]

A soft reset (unplugging it) shouldn't just reenable auto update IMHO. I can see it happening, tho.

No, it absolutely should not.

 

[Dave67]

Update...

Well they've both been to Yamaha and back.

Re installing (?) firmware seemed to fix RX-485 (5.1) but not RX-A3080. RX-A3080 still doesn't recognise rear channels but it now recognises 2 subs (before just 1) and front presence speakers.

Yamaha seems lost on it. Took a week to ship it back (should have been overnight) and it's not fixed.

Everything points to the firmware as both receivers copped it with an auto update. Different firmware however. Don't know exactly what Yamaha did but they needed to wait to get access to something of Yamaha technical site.

There's a conflict somewhere...

 

[TLS Guy]

Update...

Well they've both been to Yamaha and back.

Re installing (?) firmware seemed to fix RX-485 (5.1) but not RX-A3080. RX-A3080 still doesn't recognise rear channels but it now recognises 2 subs (before just 1) and front presence speakers.

Yamaha seems lost on it. Took a week to ship it back (should have been overnight) and it's not fixed.

Everything points to the firmware as both receivers copped it with an auto update. Different firmware however. Don't know exactly what Yamaha did but they needed to wait to get access to something of Yamaha technical site.

There's a conflict somewhere...

I'm not convinced this is just the Firmware. The fault may have been precipitated by the download, but I bet there is a hardware problem on the main logic board.

I bet it will need a new main board. If this were a firmware problem other receivers would be showing up with the same problem. As far as I can tell they are not.

Just because event B happens when A happens, does not always mean A is the cause, but only precipitated the problem, and is indirectly related. In other words there could have been a component ready to fail, and the stress of the download precipitated the failure.

 

[Dave67]

That's what I mean by a conflict.

The RX-A3080 I purchased 2 years ago. I know when I purchased it the whole thing subject to firmware / upgrades. Whole thing around TV's, AVR's and new game consoles and what comes first is mildly confusing.

I asked the question to Yamaha has something changed in the RX-A3080's after first released. Otherwise you'd think they'd be tons online about it

 

[TLS Guy]

That's what I mean by a conflict.

The RX-A3080 I purchased 2 years ago. I know when I purchased it the whole thing subject to firmware / upgrades. Whole thing around TV's, AVR's and new game consoles and what comes first is mildly confusing.

I asked the question to Yamaha has something changed in the RX-A3080's after first released. Otherwise you'd think they'd be tons online about it

As events are now unfolding, I'm betting there is a component failure on the main processing board. I suspect the unit is out of warranty. What was the warranty of the unit?

I suspect it may be a toss up whether it is worth the cost of repair.

 

[Dave67]

Out of warranty however Yamaha is looking after it for now. No charge.

Both receivers were working perfectly before an automated firmware update. There's a difference between just updating and shutting them down completely then setting up. Yamaha recognised this.

As both receivers had same problem, not updated same time, different firmware I cannot see how a component has suddenly failed. Adds to the mystery there's little, uhmm no, online cases of it.

I don't subscribe they're a throw away item. Seems to be just find right technician.

 

[Dave67]

Well thankfully I don't drink otherwise....

Went full new system, Yamaha CX-A5200 + Marantz MM7055 x 2 and rear channels didn't work!!!

Now before I did swap wiring over and rear speakers did work. However now 6 sets of wiring all defunct. They were running with power cord!!!

Then initially some front channels however after sent RX-A3080 to Yahama they work.

Can a power cord really knock out all speakers? No sound whatsoever. Not lose, broken, tangled.

Well beyond me

 

[lovinthehd]

Well thankfully I don't drink otherwise....

Went full new system, Yamaha CX-A5200 + Marantz MM7055 x 2 and rear channels didn't work!!!

Now before I did swap wiring over and rear speakers did work. However now 6 sets of wiring all defunct. They were running with power cord!!!

Then initially some front channels however after sent RX-A3080 to Yahama they work.

Can a power cord really knock out all speakers? No sound whatsoever. Not lose, broken, tangled.

Well beyond me

You should start your own thread perhaps since this has little to do with this one....

 

[Dave67]

It's the completion of whole problem, issue with RX-A3080

 

[lovinthehd]

It's the completion of whole problem, issue with RX-A3080

Dang, it wasn't identifying you as OP, sorry. Glad its come full circle for ya!

 

[Gadset]

Dang, it wasn't identifying you as OP, sorry. Glad its come full circle for ya!

Exactly!!


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