TV doesn't have 3.5mm jack. Need help to find a solution.

[noahsaf]

Geez! I didn't realize the Logitech Speakers had a digital audio optical input connection!

If you are using a HDMI source, then get a HDMI audio extractor for $20 and connect it in-line with any HDMI source to get digital surround sound out of it for the speakers.

This is shown in the manual as a connection option: https://www.logitech.com/assets/36226/z906620-002920006ug403.pdf

Audio extractor with toslink (optical) output: https://www.amazon.com/J-Tech-Digital-Extractor-Converter-JTDAT5CH/dp/B00BIQER0E/ref=sr_1_4

Super cheap way to ensure you get solid 5.1 digital audio into the speakers.

I'm using HDMI for shows, I have some older consoles that uses other connections, but that's fine. Mostly want it for shows and music, and those use HDMI. But to be clear, can one toslink cable between the HDMI audio extractor and the speaker give it 5.1? Thanks for help

Out of interest, what speakers would you think would be better compared to these, for under 200 dollars? Since you stated they were not the best option.

 

[lovinthehd]

Not sure what you mean haha. I do not have a reciever or anything. I'm trying to connect speakers directly to tv yes. Thank you for helping!

Most of us use an avr, an audio video receiver. A tv alone doesn't quite function the same way. That hdmi extractor looks to be worth a try, tho.

For a 5.1 set those speakers are probably okay, again many of us have more invested in speaker/sub setups. The hdmi feed has multich audio content in the first place? Then it should be able to pass 5.1 content....

 

[TLS Guy]

I'm using HDMI for shows, I have some older consoles that uses other connections, but that's fine. Mostly want it for shows and music, and those use HDMI. But to be clear, can one toslink cable between the HDMI audio extractor and the speaker give it 5.1? Thanks for help

Out of interest, what speakers would you think would be better compared to these, for under 200 dollars? Since you stated they were not the best option.

I'm still not clear what audio outputs your TV has. Your Logitech's electronics are in the Sub, except for the control unit that connects to the sub via 5 pin DIN. The latter has no inputs.

The sub has RCA stereo inputs, two Toslink digital optical inputs, and an RCA digital input. If your TV has an HDMI out then it is probably ARC. Now as I understand the situation, most if not all HDMI audio strippers will not work from an ARC out.

I would be surprised if your TV does not have a digital optical out which you would connect to your sub. However I don't see one in your photograph.

If your TV has no optical digital out or analog RCA audio outs, you are going to be out of luck, as that will be checkmate. However it looks as if your TV has analog RCA audio outs. Those are the red and white RCA on the right I think. If they don't work then it is over.

As far as getting anything better, both your TV and audio units seem far out of date, so it means starting over completely.

 

[Trebdp83]

Better pictures of ALL of the ports on that thing would be helpful. Would not have known it had an HDMI input from those pics. It may very well have an optical or coaxial digital output hiding somewhere. I did find one pic of the HDMI port. So, if there is an optical port, use it. But, some older ports do not support 5.1 output. If that is the case or it has no digital output at all, then an extractor would work. This is why folks ask for any and all information and available pics of equipment.

 

[noahsaf]

Better pictures of ALL of the ports on that thing would be helpful. Would not have known it had an HDMI input from those pics. It may very well have an optical or coaxial digital output hiding somewhere. I did find one pic of the HDMI port. So, if there is an optical port, use it. But, some older ports do not support 5.1 output. If that is the case or it has no digital output at all, then an extractor would work. This is why folks ask for any and all information and available pics of equipment.
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Sorry, I did not think you could use HDMI to get audio from. Now it makes sense it can, as the tv gets the sound from it, but I did not think of it. But there's only a HDMI and 2 scart other than what I took a picture of and I didn't think they were important, but I was wrong, so I will think about that next time

 

[noahsaf]

Most of us use an avr, an audio video receiver. A tv alone doesn't quite function the same way. That hdmi extractor looks to be worth a try, tho.

For a 5.1 set those speakers are probably okay, again many of us have more invested in speaker/sub setups. The hdmi feed has multich audio content in the first place? Then it should be able to pass 5.1 content....

Yep, it's a Xiami Mi stick tv. it's utter garbage but supports 5.1, probably gonna replace it with an amazon fire stick which also supports 5.1

 

[noahsaf]

I'm still not clear what audio outputs your TV has. Your Logitech's electronics are in the Sub, except for the control unit that connects to the sub via 5 pin DIN. The latter has no inputs.

The sub has RCA stereo inputs, two Toslink digital optical inputs, and an RCA digital input. If your TV has an HDMI out then it is probably ARC. Now as I understand the situation, most if not all HDMI audio strippers will not work from an ARC out.

I would be surprised if your TV does not have a digital optical out which you would connect to your sub. However I don't see one in your photograph.

If your TV has no optical digital out or analog RCA audio outs, you are going to be out of luck, as that will be checkmate. However it looks as if your TV has analog RCA audio outs. Those are the red and white RCA on the right I think. If they don't work then it is over.

As far as getting anything better, both your TV and audio units seem far out of date, so it means starting over completely.

i will just get an audio extractors as that seemed like a cheap solution.
and I cant just get anything better, sure my tv is out of date but it's not as simple as to get a new one. also, if you can find a new 5.1 setup for under 200 dollars that is better than the z906, then I can easily just return these and buy that other setup instead. but i cant just go out and buy the most expensive audio units to get less out of date. i have a budget and i stay within it. thanks for help

 

[Trebdp83]

We all work within our own budgets. The extractor is a very cost effective way to get 5.1 audio from a device that has only HDMI port. In the meantime, can the TV pass audio from the analog outputs from a device connected to it using the HDMI port? It may not do so and the extractor will be a must.

 

[TLS Guy]

Sorry, I did not think you could use HDMI to get audio from. Now it makes sense it can, as the tv gets the sound from it, but I did not think of it. But there's only a HDMI and 2 scart other than what I took a picture of and I didn't think they were important, but I was wrong, so I will think about that next time

No it does not make sense. That HDMI port is an input and NOT an output. SCART is not good for anything. It was a useless construct of the French. And absolutely good for nothing connection.

If those red and white connections on the right don't work, it is game over.

The fact that TV has SCART tells me it is well past its sell by date, and so is that Logitech unit. This is the age of obsolescence. Analog audio gear you can preserve. AV gear not a chance, and you have to stay current. You paid far too much for that Logitech unit, it is now junk, with the TV now right behind.

Basically if you want to run those then you are on your way to founding a museum.

 

[TLS Guy]

We all work within our own budgets. The extractor is a very cost effective way to get 5.1 audio from a device that has only HDMI port. In the meantime, can the TV pass audio from the analog outputs from a device connected to it using the HDMI port? It may not do so and the extractor will be a must.

His TV predates ARC for sure. That HDMI port will for certain be input only and not output. His TV has no optical or RCA digital out. So there is no way he will get 5.1 to his Logitech system. I think there is a good chance he can get 2.0 analog audio out of the RCA jacks to the right. If not he is is right out of luck.

 

[Trebdp83]

Yes, agreed on the analog and no ARC. As for the extractor, the streaming device will connect to the extractor. The extractor will send the video to the TV from the HDMI cable and audio will be sent directly to the Logitech using an optical cable from the extractor.

 

[TLS Guy]

Yes, agreed on the analog and no ARC. As for the extractor, the streaming device will connect to the extractor. The extractor will send the video to the TV from the HDMI cable and audio will be sent directly to the Logitech using an optical cable from the extractor.
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That solution gives him very limited functionality. If I read it right that just gives him Android TV and Chromecast.

 

[Trebdp83]

The Mi uses Android TV as its platform. It supports Chromecast so one can cast something to it from a Smart device such as a cell phone or tablet supporting Chromecast. It also has built apps and can add more from the Google Play store. It supports popular services such as Netflix and Amazon Prime as well as supporting Dolby and DTS audio. It’s not unlike many streaming sticks out there but the model in use here doesn’t rate especially well compared to other makes. The newer Mi supporting 4K is supposed to be improved in most other respects. There are lots of options for small streamers out there these days including Chromecast with Google TV, FireTV Stick, Roku Streaming Stick+ and the TiVo Stream.

 

[TLS Guy]

The Mi uses Android TV as its platform. It supports Chromecast so one can cast something to it from a Smart device such as a cell phone or tablet supporting Chromecast. It also has built apps and can add more from the Google Play store. It supports popular services such as Netflix and Amazon Prime as well as supporting Dolby and DTS audio. It’s not unlike many streaming sticks out there but the model in use here doesn’t rate especially well compared to other makes. The newer Mi supporting 4K is supposed to be improved in most other respects. There are lots of options for small streamers out there these days including Chromecast with Google TV, FireTV Stick, Roku Streaming Stick+ and the TiVo Stream.

We do a lot of streaming here, both my wife and I. We use Chromecast and TV apps occasionally, but none of the others you mentioned, as none of those would be adequate for our needs. Almost all or streaming is via our two HTPCs and a DAW. We started AV streaming on a very regular basis 10 years ago in 2012. I started audio streaming about 20 years ago. It was really primitive 20 years ago!

 

[Trebdp83]

Some streamers are better than others for sure and some have much better app stores than others. Some support HDMI-CEC and can be controlled by TV and receiver remote controls while others cannot be. Some support Dolby Vision AND HDR10+ but many just Dolby Vision. Some support DTS while many do not do so. It’s all over the place.

 

[BMXTRIX]

i will just get an audio extractors as that seemed like a cheap solution.
and I cant just get anything better, sure my tv is out of date but it's not as simple as to get a new one. also, if you can find a new 5.1 setup for under 200 dollars that is better than the z906, then I can easily just return these and buy that other setup instead. but i cant just go out and buy the most expensive audio units to get less out of date. i have a budget and i stay within it. thanks for help

The HDMI audio extractor is a great way to get 5.1 surround sound into legacy devices that do not have HDMI connectivity for audio. This is a common solution for older AV receivers which were excellent at the time, but lack HDMI. The Yamaha RX-Z1 for example.

I'm not sure if you live in an area which has such a reselling website like Craigslist, or similar, that people can sell their used electronics on. But, I've seen complete HDMI enable 5.1 surround systems sell for under $200 in my area. Not 'great' speakers, but entry level and usable, along with something like a slightly dated Yamaha, Denon, or similar receiver. They don't pop up often, but they do show up and can be in the price range of about $200.

For people buying off the shelf, it's a bit more, but not crazy expensive. $350 in the USA, can get this system which is an upgrade on almost any speaker bar ever made...

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More importantly, the speakers can be upgraded to MUCH better models as time and budget permits.

The problem with something like a speaker bar, or a packaged Logitech system, is that it has zero upgrade path. If something breaks, the entire system becomes garbage. It doesn't offer industry standard connectivity for modern HDMI devices. It is, at best, a mediocre value proposition for the long term.

A receiver + separate speakers is best because each and every piece offers some level of upgradability. If the speakers aren't great, you can upgrade them. You can add a better subwoofer at any point. You can swap the receiver for a better unit, and your existing speakers will still work. Many people buy really nice speakers and use them for decades, while they change out their AV receiver every few years. But, just to get things rolling, an entry level home theater system allows you to place the speakers around the room wherever you want using standard speaker cable.

 

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[lovinthehd]

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[noahsaf]

The HDMI audio extractor is a great way to get 5.1 surround sound into legacy devices that do not have HDMI connectivity for audio. This is a common solution for older AV receivers which were excellent at the time, but lack HDMI. The Yamaha RX-Z1 for example.

I'm not sure if you live in an area which has such a reselling website like Craigslist, or similar, that people can sell their used electronics on. But, I've seen complete HDMI enable 5.1 surround systems sell for under $200 in my area. Not 'great' speakers, but entry level and usable, along with something like a slightly dated Yamaha, Denon, or similar receiver. They don't pop up often, but they do show up and can be in the price range of about $200.

For people buying off the shelf, it's a bit more, but not crazy expensive. $350 in the USA, can get this system which is an upgrade on almost any speaker bar ever made...

Accessories4less: High End Audio at Low End Prices!

www.accessories4less.com

More importantly, the speakers can be upgraded to MUCH better models as time and budget permits.

The problem with something like a speaker bar, or a packaged Logitech system, is that it has zero upgrade path. If something breaks, the entire system becomes garbage. It doesn't offer industry standard connectivity for modern HDMI devices. It is, at best, a mediocre value proposition for the long term.

A receiver + separate speakers is best because each and every piece offers some level of upgradability. If the speakers aren't great, you can upgrade them. You can add a better subwoofer at any point. You can swap the receiver for a better unit, and your existing speakers will still work. Many people buy really nice speakers and use them for decades, while they change out their AV receiver every few years. But, just to get things rolling, an entry level home theater system allows you to place the speakers around the room wherever you want using standard speaker cable.

Unfortunately I couldn't find it to buy at all here in Sweden, new or used. We do have reselling, but since it's a small country, looking for something specific to buy can be hard. And if I were to find it new though, it would still be twice of what I paid for the ones I have now.

But the speakers I have use spring clips, shouldn't I be able to replace the speakers in that case? I'm not looking to buy these speakers long term anyways, still only 17 and don't have a job, so these doesn't have to hold for many years.

 

[noahsaf]

We all work within our own budgets. The extractor is a very cost effective way to get 5.1 audio from a device that has only HDMI port. In the meantime, can the TV pass audio from the analog outputs from a device connected to it using the HDMI port? It may not do so and the extractor will be a must.

I was able to get it to play through RCA from the TV. So I do have the ability to use it for non HDMI things now.