Russia - Ukraine

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Joe Biden was blithering on about not going into Ukraine, so he would not start WW III. Well I have a reality check for old Joe. Putin has already started WW III.

really?.. and just what would you have "poor ol senile " Joe do? give putin every excuse to launch?...... nice.... the rules are laid out pretty explicitly about military engagement with russia, we don't unless they violate nato treaties( or the monroe doctorine)... along with spending "more on defense" .. brilliant ... lol

 

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[SithZedi]

The US as already made dangerous misjudgments. History tells us you have to act early and decisively in these situations, with no dithering.

Joe Biden was blithering on about not going into Ukraine, so he would not start WW III. Well I have a reality check for old Joe. Putin has already started WW III.

Boris in response to Putler's thinly veiled nuclear threats, has informed them, that the UK already has enough nuclear Trident submarines, carrying enough nuclear weapons to destroy every major city in Russia. He did not leave much doubt these subs are cocked and ready in an instant. Two can play the fear game.

The Ukrainians will fight with vigor as they are fighting "For Hearth and Home." That is what Elizabeth the first said in a speech at Tilbury on the Thames as the Spanish Armada left Cadiz and was making its way up the channel. She told the population to arm to the teeth with any weapons they could grab. Well, we all know what happened, only one ship of that massive fleet ever returned to Cadiz. So don't under rate the intensity with which the Ukrainians will fight to defend "Hearth and Home."

There will be conga line of politicians and media to blame in both Europe and the US when it's time for a postmortem on this. This should never have started and I pray it doesn't go further since the nuclear sabre rattling has begun. Boris should carefully weigh what he says...

The key point here is that the British deterrent does not have permissive action link control, which means it does not rely on the use of codes to fire the system. The UK’s Trident fleet relies purely on military discipline to prevent a launch.

Who controls Trident? A brief look at the operation of Britain’s nuclear weapons

The Trident missile system is housed on the UK's four Vanguard class submarines which form the UK's strategic nuclear missile force.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

 

[haraldo]

Message from the Minister of Defenсe of Ukraine Oleksii Reznikov, here with Volodymyr Zelenskyi

85 hours of defence

It is useless to intimidate Ukrainians.

It will not be possible to break our defenders. Moreover, to force us to surrender the capital. Extremely difficult hours. But they will pass. The spring will come in a few days.

Ukraine will win. Already winning!

The enemy who came to our land will go in a known direction.

Therefore, we advise the invaders to go home. It's not too late.
Let's keep the line!

 

[SithZedi]

A beginning.

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Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Sunday announced a major boost to German military spending — the latest in a series of dramatic policy shifts by Berlin in response to Russia’s war on Ukraine.

Speaking at an emergency session of the German parliament to discuss the war, Scholz said that his government would set up a special €100 billion fund to swiftly upgrade its armed forces and that Germany will in future adhere to the NATO goal of spending 2 percent of GDP on defense.

Describing Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as “a turning point in the history of our Continent,” Scholz told lawmakers that “it is clear that we need to invest significantly more in the security of our country in order to protect our freedom and our democracy.”

“We will from now on, year for year, invest more than 2 percent of our gross domestic product in our defense,” Scholz said. His remarks were met with loud applause by lawmakers.

Germany currently spends around 1.5 percent of GDP on defense and the current coalition government had previously been reluctant to commit to the 2 percent target, despite pleas from NATO allies.
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In historic shift, Germany ramps up defense spending due to Russia’s Ukraine war

Chancellor Olaf Scholz accuses Vladimir Putin of trying to create new ‘Russian empire’ through force.

www.politico.eu

This is good first step. Frankly what would be more helpful after this mercifully ends is to put both ex Chancellor Schroeder and Merkel on trial for treason against the German people and Europe. Both they and their cronies committed a colossal strategic blunder by making Europe's largest economy vulnerable to Russia. Was it greed, was it political calculation? Inquiring minds want to know because the Ukrainians are paying the price.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I don't want to go into this in depth it will derail the thread. Perhaps a new thread on the subject perhaps a thread challenging democrats to prove what Gene said that the majority of the Republican Party media etc support Putin.

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I don't think if has to be a majority of those outlets but certainly Tucker may be the largest audience gatherer.

Surprisingly McCarthy called out Putin about his threatening nuclear force by placing them on high alert. But who knows what he will say tomorrow?

 

[TLS Guy]

This is good first step. Frankly what would be more helpful after this mercifully ends is to put both ex Chancellor Schroeder and Merkel on trial for treason against the German people and Europe. Both they and their cronies committed a colossal strategic blunder by making Europe's largest economy vulnerable to Russia. Was it greed, was it political calculation? Inquiring minds want to know because the Ukrainians are paying the price.

They did it because of the political pressure of the Eco Loons. Energy policy in the west is totally lunatic, and is one, of not the largest root cause of all of this.

We are gong to have to make some sensible, but politically unpopular decisions in this sector. We probably will have to reduce protest to writing a letter if we are going to get though this.

 

[mtrycrafts]

From the Telegram channel: Ukraine NOW

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And all that adds up to 0 casualties in Putin's mind.

 

[mtrycrafts]

There is a massive war going on in Europe, kindergardens are being attacked by missiles, Ambulances are under fire from rocket launchers, a whole country of citizens have to seek shelter ....

Russia has invaded a country with all their military power, killing civilians and demolishing cities across the countries, probably the only way to stop this is to block everything russian and send russia economically back to the stone age.

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I'd like to send Putin and his backers back to the Denisovan age. Unfortunately, you cannot separate the good ones from the rest.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yesh, Putler must be stopped and for you guys in US thinking it does not concern you.... I think you are dead wrong.

Putler is setting his nuclear arsenal forces into red alert, which means he is now starting to put his finger close to the intercontinental nuclear rocket triggers.....

it’s all from official sources communicated through that Telegram channel

Well, it may not be the intercontinental missiles, it certainly indicates tactical small ones in the field.

By the way. Just saw a whole line of Russian armored vehicles abandoned in one city where heavy fighting took place.

 

[TLS Guy]

really?.. and just what would you have "poor ol senile " Joe do? give putin every excuse to launch?...... nice.... the rules are laid out pretty explicitly about military engagement with russia, we don't unless they violate nato treaties( or the monroe doctorine)... along with spending "more on defense" .. brilliant ... lol

I want him to look at the arc of history. The last successful invasion of England was in 1066. That is no accident or fluke. The UK will always act in what it perceives as its own interest. It will follow its time honored mantra, of being vigorous in conflict and magnanimous in defeat. It is fortunate that the UK foreign secretary, Liz Truss, is ex military.

I think Russia has already threatened NATO.

 

[haraldo]

Well, it may not be the intercontinental missiles, it certainly indicates tactical small ones in the field.

By the way. Just saw a whole line of Russian armored vehicles abandoned in one city where heavy fighting took place.

You are probably rcorrect, but it doesn´t make it that much less scary in my mind

Just heard from Ukranian channels that it´s claimed that even some gypsies took over a Russian heavily armed tank, if this is really true it is a testament to the incredible fighting spirit taking place here

 

[mtrycrafts]

Just in. BP to dump 19.75% stake in Rosneft and all that goes with it.

 

[haraldo]

My wife is Ukrainian, she just flew out of the country last Monday evening.... she is still and continuously disturbed by this.... very much!

 

[mtrycrafts]

You are probably rcorrect, but it doesn´t make it that much less scary in my mind

Just heard from Ukranian channels that it´s claimed that even some gypsies took over a Russian heavily armed tank, if this is really true it is a testament to the incredible fighting spirit taking place here

Of course, not less scary. A disaster over there. Large areas unusable for years and the human losses.
A plain signal how sick Putler is.
Maybe we, rather the Ukrainians should broadcast to the Russian military to have a military coup as Putler did. Put him out of his miserable life.

 

[MaxInValrico]

uh .. no.. the US *massively overspends now *.(defense spending). to the point that we spend 12 times the amount russia does currently..only to be put into an impotent , thumb up our butt position waiting for a madman to make up his mind what happens next...

What exactly is Putin stopping us from doing?

 

[MaxInValrico]

There will be conga line of politicians and media to blame in both Europe and the US when it's time for a postmortem on this. This should never have started and I pray it doesn't go further since the nuclear sabre rattling has begun. Boris should carefully weigh what he says...

The key point here is that the British deterrent does not have permissive action link control, which means it does not rely on the use of codes to fire the system. The UK’s Trident fleet relies purely on military discipline to prevent a launch.

Who controls Trident? A brief look at the operation of Britain’s nuclear weapons

The Trident missile system is housed on the UK's four Vanguard class submarines which form the UK's strategic nuclear missile force.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

There is only one person to blame and that is Vladimir Putin and only Russia is attacking Ukraine.

 

[Danzilla31]

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Yeah if I came off that way I apologize. I just told him I would reply to his question. So I did as best as I could.

Honestly? I'm just as scared and feeling like I'm in over my head as a lot of people are right now.

But the Ukraine people and there courage is showing me what I need to do with that fear.

 

[SithZedi]

There is only one person to blame and that is Vladimir Putin and only Russia is attacking Ukraine.

He's the main culprit no doubt and a class 1 predator. But there are the enablers, from Narcopath.info.

All predators carrying out campaigns of abuse need accomplices. These co-conspirators may not actually undertake the hub of the maltreatment, but they facilitate none-the-less. Think of the Matrons on the wards of Stoke Mandeville hospital who gave Jimmy Savile the keys to the bedrooms and then turned a blind eye to what they knew must have been happening. Consider the roles of the nurses who told the young boys not to mention anything – it was nothing, who did they think they were, suck it up, you can’t go accusing such a celebrity. Contemplate the legions of PAs, of managers, of talent scouts, of Big Names who kept the Weinsteins of this world fed with young women, who hushed up what was going on, and who silenced his victims from coming forward with allegations. The choir masters, priests and bishops who facilitated the stream of young boys towards the rings of abusers, and the knew what was going on in the church, and who hushed it up.

Are their hands guilty of abuse directly? No, not technically. Are they stained with that abuse none-the-less? Yes, by association.

 

[haraldo]

Ukrainian company Reface is urgently developing an algorithm for recognizing military forces.

It is based on satellite imagery and will be able to detect the location of russian troops in real time.

The team asks for help from the people of Ukraine and asks to provide certain data and disseminate information.