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Danzilla31

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Again, simply using Columbia as an example for ALL of America isn't sufficient. Ok, Ivy schools are blue, but what about the South? Is the entire nation of our universities blue too? Notre Dame included?

I never said anything about racism. The point continues to be America was founded on a Republic, I don't think you articulate it well beyond owning the libs, and your journalism over there at Faux headquarters is abysmal at best for a station dedicated to preserving the Republic. CNN/Msnbc while not stellar still have some semblance of journalism. Faux has almost none (ie possibly even less) and has a host over there who is the gold standard of propaganda. For a party that is so vastly better in every way to the Democrats, why can't you seem to articulate your position or use more journalism? I'd think that'd be pretty easy considering your better in every way. Alas it gets into the difficulty Republicans seem to have selling their ideology beyond hate, fear, and propaganda.
We're waiting on our food er I mean rolling in the mud so I'll answer this

You do realize that your whole argument is based on a flaw. In any 2 party system where both parties are fighting for absolute power of course they will lie to protect themselves while crucifying they're opponent on the skewer of truth. The left does it too just like the right it's the nature of the political system that's been built

I posted 2 links up above explaining why there are issues with the left. By a left wing journalist that changed her viewpoint because of the problems with the left you've yet to dispute her data and those links.

You've yet to answer my question about why 90% of journalists having a degree has created problems for both sides of the media

Your mistake is thinking I give a sh$t about the right I think left and right are 2 sides of the same coin. But I align myself with the right because they at least have some values that are important to me. I've voted democratic before but the democratic party has lost its mind right now.

You gave a list of the rights values what are the lefts?

Encouraging divisiveness
Defuding police
Encouraging crime
Hurting the very minority bases they claim they protect?

The problem is they have there fancy degrees but they don't understand that college as a price of entry has become so high to get into that high cost of entrance has caused university education to become elitist

What Shady wasn't realizing is the more elitist you become the more out of touch you become with the everyday person.

It's why there policies are so stupid and don't work on the basic levels of government. They complicate the sh$t out of stuff that really is just basic common sense.

Because they've lost touch with the everyday American they've become part of the elitist class

This isn't just a democratic thing it's also a Republican thing it's a 2 party thing

And it's why our media and politicians have lost perspective on a lot of there constituents

I don't like either party for the same reasons. I just thanks to the last 2 years on policies of law and order and basic governing have grown to dislike the Democratic party a little more that's all

If that gets you bent out of shape yelling at me about Trump and this and that I don't know what to tell you

I'm going back to touching myself with my friends while we roll in the mud worshipping Tucker Carlson because we're just so racist and Trumpican and stupid you know ;)
 
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SithZedi

SithZedi

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Well if you think Columbia is close enough to a nat'l problem. Then I'd guess it isn't your job to dig deeper. I should just accept it as so.

It's kind of like when Chris Christie was on CNN selling his book and talking about media bias. When the host asked Well what about Tucker Carlson?, Christie pivoted to Well I don't watch him so I couldn't say. In other words, Tucker especially but Faux consistently spread misinformation. Christie's not going to acknowledge that bias from Faux. CNN isn't going to say highlight policy failures because it hurts their position. Asking them to isn't the name of the game. That's why it's the right's job to investigate that sort of thing or investigate something else to get "the beat" to use journalism lingo. I get the impression Faux are mostly interested in the latest conspiracy. They either don't have anything on the left, or there isn't a market for conservative journalism. I'm more inclined to think it's the latter. You tell me who's more at fault here?

As I said, if CNN had advance warning on Cuomo, then yes that's on them.
If the most respected Lefty journalists come from the Columbia School of Journalism and Northwestern which I believe to be correct, that it's a national problem, no? NW by the way went 95/5% in 2020, 85/15% in 2012.

Chris Christie? That guy's flipped flopped more times than an Orca in a vat of Tabasco. I don't take his word on anything, especially after his performance as NJ Governor.

Then you wrote this:

CNN isn't going to say highlight policy failures because it hurts their position. Asking them to isn't the name of the game.


So they are not going to highlight policy failures because it hurts their position. So what kind of journalists are they? Journalists should attack ALL in power and highlight their hypocrisy no matter what side they are on. They should attack policies that do not work for the American people not run cover for the elite. They are not supposed to be wearing tee shirts for any side. That's why I don't watch FOX or CNN or any Corporate media. They have made a mockery of the profession. Remember this was all predicted in 1975 in Network.

For fun while I was typing, on my other laptop I just typed in Right wing media attacking Repubs and this came up immediately. You better sit down because it comes from Breibart!! and would not want to upset you. After you read the article, which attacks both Repubs and Dems go to CNN's website and search for an article on this book. Try any other Lefty media website to see their "in depth coverage" of the book.


While you are at it show me the same from a Lefty news source making the same type of attack against high ranking members of the Dem party. I ask that because I really do want to know if I am mistaken in this.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
If the most respected Lefty journalists come from the Columbia School of Journalism and Northwestern which I believe to be correct, that it's a national problem, no? NW by the way went 95/5% in 2020, 85/15% in 2012.

Chris Christie? That guy's flipped flopped more times than an Orca in a vat of Tabasco. I don't take his word on anything, especially after his performance as NJ Governor.

Then you wrote this:

CNN isn't going to say highlight policy failures because it hurts their position. Asking them to isn't the name of the game.

So they are not going to highlight policy failures because it hurts their position. So what kind of journalists are they? Journalists should attack ALL in power and highlight their hypocrisy no matter what side they are on. They should attack policies that do not work for the American people not run cover for the elite. They are not supposed to be wearing tee shirts for any side. That's why I don't watch FOX or CNN or any Corporate media. They have made a mockery of the profession. Remember this was all predicted in 1975 in Network.

For fun while I was typing, on my other laptop I just typed in Right wing media attacking Repubs and this came up immediately. You better sit down because it comes from Breibart!! and would not want to upset you. After you read the article, which attacks both Repubs and Dems go to CNN's website and search for an article on this book. Try any other Lefty media website to see their "in depth coverage" of the book.


While you are at it show me the same from a Lefty news source making the same type of attack against high ranking members of the Dem party. I ask that because I really do want to know if I am mistaken in this.
LOL "lefty". You have been anointed official knuckledragger.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
If the most respected Lefty journalists come from the Columbia School of Journalism and Northwestern which I believe to be correct, that it's a national problem, no? NW by the way went 95/5% in 2020, 85/15% in 2012.

Ok so how do you bring in more young conservatives to journalism? Or at least is some of the problem that young people tend to be liberal when their young and become more conservative as they get older?

So they are not going to highlight policy failures because it hurts their position. So what kind of journalists are they? Journalists should attack ALL in power and highlight their hypocrisy no matter what side they are on. They should attack policies that do not work for the American people not run cover for the elite. They are not supposed to be wearing tee shirts for any side. That's why I don't watch FOX or CNN or any Corporate media. They have made a mockery of the profession. Remember this was all predicted in 1975 in Network.

But that's not how the real world works. There's a left, and there's a right. They have an agenda. Hopefully they'll use journalism in the process to uncover the other side. It's why I don't listen to you people. You'll complain that the left didn't cover the Floyd riots but than turn the other way on the election scam, Jan 6th, and covid like Faux did.

For fun while I was typing, on my other laptop I just typed in Right wing media attacking Repubs and this came up immediately. You better sit down because it comes from Breibart!! and would not want to upset you. After you read the article, which attacks both Repubs and Dems go to CNN's website and search for an article on this book. Try any other Lefty media website to see their "in depth coverage" of the book.

Breitbart is terrible dude.
 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
Wow thought this thread was about gas prices.

the average price of gas in Florida is $3.45 per gallon, higher than the national average of $3.41 . Come on down and enjoy the sun and warm weather. PS: the area around Daytona right NOW IS PACKED, sold out everything due to speed week. ANd next is bike week, bikes, booze, half dressed women, music and mayhem. Its a freaking blast.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
You gave a list of the rights values what are the lefts?

Lets put it this way. I put these values up on the right to show you how they don't articulate those principles and are only this knee jerk reaction to the left. In other words, they are the key to the Republic, but yet they don't mention let alone hammer home those principles. Therefore by their lack of articulation is arguably the biggest obstacle to achieving a Republic. Well at least we're not as bad as the left -- isn't a very high standard. I put up those principles it doesn't seem to me anyone around here even knows as a Republican conservative. Kind of odd, eh? Maybe some of the problem is Republicans don't believe in it themselves and don't verbally promote them? Lets say the Left are the opposite of those principles, but by your 'lack of' means your still going to need a little self-reflection. I think if I were a news source each time I'd be trying to hammer home those same principles vs the left in a brief yet digestible manner and see how that works. Yet outrage is their platform w/o much a philosophy.

Notice too how when Shady said the left have higher journalist standards you guys went silent. My point being I know who CNN is and what they're motivations are, but I can also watch them and get something out of it and not feel like I'm being treated stupidly. I don't at all get that impression with Faux's primetime slots, particularly Tucker. I can watch the Clinton Years on CNN and get something useful out of it because there's actual journalism in it. I turn on Fox Business and watch Scandalous and I'm literally watching a conspiracy within what should be a real documentary on true events. It's that lazy. I think what bothers you guys is that I tune in to CNN to begin with.

Encouraging divisiveness- See Trump and Faux
Defuding police- agreed
Encouraging crime- how?
Hurting the very minority bases they claim they protect? possibly

Edit: or they've adopted each others policies to appeal to the majority and therefore there isn't a whole lot of distinctions to be made.
 
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SithZedi

SithZedi

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Wow thought this thread was about gas prices.

the average price of gas in Florida is $3.45 per gallon, higher than the national average of $3.41 . Come on down and enjoy the sun and warm weather. PS: the area around Daytona right NOW IS PACKED, sold out everything due to speed week. ANd next is bike week, bikes, booze, half dressed women, music and mayhem. Its a freaking blast.
Yeah, this did go off the rails a bit. Would love to come down to see a few Spring Training games but that's all up the air too. Nice to see things are getting back to normal.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Try read my post #122 that you replied to.:rolleyes:
Right, I'll stick by my post of 121 which described the possible implications of a 90/10 bias on the student body.
The text link is working correctly. I think you might be stuck on = (equals) which is surprising for someone with a high education.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Ok so how do you bring in more young conservatives to journalism? Or at least is some of the problem that young people tend to be liberal when their young and become more conservative as they get older?

Breitbart is terrible dude.
Am just going to focus on these two points given time constraints.

More conservatives into journalism? Good question. One can start by returning to a classical liberal arts education in the universities. Teach the students both sides of an issue (or more depending on the subject) and let the students use the tools of reasoning coupled with critical thinking to come to their own conclusions. i.e. teach them to think, not what to think. Even if we do this, there is no guarantee that we can get highly educated people like Trell to give humanity guidance, but I am hopeful.

Not that it matters anyway. The Corporate Media that sits on top will not allow "real" journalism, right or left. That's why the Media is dying and people go elsewhere for their news. Rogan, who I had never listened to before the thread in this forum, is an example of this. He has 11 million followers per episode!
As of Jan 2022, CNN primetime lineup between 8 and 11 pm recorded an 83% drop YOY in viewers. They had 4 million primetime viewers during the first week of 2021 and only 705,000 in 2022. Most importantly, they lost 89 percent of viewers among its key demographic and 91 percent of viewers ages 18 to 49.

Rogan 11m vs CNN primetime 705k. Reason for yourself what these numbers could mean.

Breibart. You requested an example of a right wing news source that attacked Repubs. I gave you one from a "terrible" right wing news source. I don't know how you survived the exposure to it. Since you watch CNN and know their motivations? can you now provide an example of CNN attacking Democratic Party Politicians in the same way?
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
They have been back to normal for almost a full year.

Spring training in full swing https://floridagrapefruitleague.com/2022-spring-training-schedules-released-by-mlb/
Thanks for that.
We are far from normal restrictionwise in the NYC area. Things are moving in the right direction thankfully.
I also want to take this moment to offer my most sincere apologies for AOC's recent visit. It was truly inspiring to see the example she set by wearing her mask in public down there.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Am just going to focus on these two points given time constraints.

More conservatives into journalism? Good question. One can start by returning to a classical liberal arts education in the universities. Teach the students both sides of an issue (or more depending on the subject) and let the students use the tools of reasoning coupled with critical thinking to come to their own conclusions. i.e. teach them to think, not what to think. Even if we do this, there is no guarantee that we can get highly educated people like Trell to give humanity guidance, but I am hopeful.

Not that it matters anyway. The Corporate Media that sits on top will not allow "real" journalism, right or left. That's why the Media is dying and people go elsewhere for their news. Rogan, who I had never listened to before the thread in this forum, is an example of this. He has 11 million followers per episode!

As of Jan 2022, CNN primetime lineup between 8 and 11 pm recorded an 83% drop YOY in viewers. They had 4 million primetime viewers during the first week of 2021 and only 705,000 in 2022. Most importantly, they lost 89 percent of viewers among its key demographic and 91 percent of viewers ages 18 to 49.

Rogan 11m vs CNN primetime 705k. Reason for yourself what these numbers could mean.

Breibart. You requested an example of a right wing news source that attacked Repubs. I gave you one from a "terrible" right wing news source. I don't know how you survived the exposure to it. Since you watch CNN and know their motivations? can you now provide an example of CNN attacking Democratic Party Politicians in the same way?
Faux tv attacking Republicans in the same way? Try a more balanced example.

Ok so Faux has picked up some of CNN's viewers, but is it "news?"

Issue isn't with Rogan's "other" segments. It's that he gave the fringe covid deniers "equal" representation in the name of 'letting everyone be heard.' As pointed out by another, his stance on covid has been false.
 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
Thanks for that.
We are far from normal restrictionwise in the NYC area. Things are moving in the right direction thankfully.
I also want to take this moment to offer my most sincere apologies for AOC's recent visit. It was truly inspiring to see the example she set by wearing her mask in public down there.
I know as it seems New Yorkers are moving to Fla. July 2021: " NEW YORK (WABC) -- More than 33,500 New Yorkers have moved to Florida in the last 10 months, according to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. "https://abc7ny.com/new-york-to-florida-pandemic-moving-delta-variant-covid/10901991/
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Faux tv attacking Republicans in the same way? Try a more balanced example.

Ok so Faux has picked up some of CNN's viewers, but is it "news?"

Issue isn't with Rogan's "other" segments. It's that he gave the fringe covid deniers "equal" representation in the name of 'letting everyone be heard.' As pointed out by another, his stance on covid has been false.
I don't watch Fox and am not obsessed with it. I believe their goal is to attract the most eyeballs they can to please their shareholders. I don't know how many of CNN's viewers switched to Fox. It's a good question. Is it news? Not to me, don't think that the ratings of things I don't watch are as important as things happening elsewhere in the world. What we do know is this from Nielson's October numbers:

More surprising are the stats about Carlson and Fox News’ pull with self-proclaimed Democrats. Of those demo-aged viewers surveyed who identified as Democrats, 39% chose Fox News, 31% chose MSNBC and 30% chose CNN for programming from 8 p.m. ET to 11 p.m. ET. In total-day viewership, Fox News grabbed 42% of Democrats aged 25-54, CNN nabbed 33% and MSNBC got 25%.

39% percent of highly educated left wing leaning Democrats watch Fox while CNN had 30%. I think you might be better served by wondering why @40% of Fox's viewers are Dems.

If you disagree with Rogan's interviewing methods or programming just change the channel. The Genocide Olympics are on, you can go watch that.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
I know as it seems New Yorkers are moving to Fla. July 2021: " NEW YORK (WABC) -- More than 33,500 New Yorkers have moved to Florida in the last 10 months, according to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. "https://abc7ny.com/new-york-to-florida-pandemic-moving-delta-variant-covid/10901991/
Yes, raising taxes & regulations while providing fewer services coupled with a sky rocketing crime rate is not a good business plan for NY State. NYS will miss those tax dollars now "not collected" and as the ratio of tax payers to non tax payers rises it will do wonderful things to the state budget. Can't wait. I have recommended that NYS prints its own currency like the Feds but that just makes people's heads explode.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
I don't watch Fox and am not obsessed with it. I believe their goal is to attract the most eyeballs they can to please their shareholders. I don't know how many of CNN's viewers switched to Fox. It's a good question. Is it news? Not to me, don't think that the ratings of things I don't watch are as important as things happening elsewhere in the world. What we do know is this from Nielson's October numbers:

More surprising are the stats about Carlson and Fox News’ pull with self-proclaimed Democrats. Of those demo-aged viewers surveyed who identified as Democrats, 39% chose Fox News, 31% chose MSNBC and 30% chose CNN for programming from 8 p.m. ET to 11 p.m. ET. In total-day viewership, Fox News grabbed 42% of Democrats aged 25-54, CNN nabbed 33% and MSNBC got 25%.

39% percent of highly educated left wing leaning Democrats watch Fox while CNN had 30%. I think you might be better served by wondering why @40% of Fox's viewers are Dems.

If you disagree with Rogan's interviewing methods or programming just change the channel. The Genocide Olympics are on, you can go watch that.
Jeez, Rogan had the fringe on to push the covid conspiracy. Your numbers on news I frankly agree with, but that's beyond the point with Rogan on covid. Your last sentence is deflection and stupidity. Because I'm watching the Olympics doesn't mean I'm supporting China but the athletes.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Jeez, Rogan had the fringe on to push the covid conspiracy. Your numbers on news I frankly agree with, but that's beyond the point with Rogan on covid. Your last sentence is deflection and stupidity. Because I'm watching the Olympics doesn't mean I'm supporting China but the athletes.
I wouldn't follow Rogan's advice on Covid since he's not a doctor, and with regards to doctors, I would get second opinions, maybe third. I would listen to his interviews as I like the format and make up my own mind. I don't believe in censorship so I just change the channel and let him get on with his business.

Defection implies I am avoiding something. No, I boycotted South Africa in the 80s, supported Carter's boycott of the Olympics in 1980. If I were alive then I would have boycotted them in 1936. As for the athletes, much more complicated. Put it this way, if they had chosen to use the Olympic platform to speak on behalf of human rights like Smith, Norman, and Carlos did in 1968, then I would pay attention. It cost Norman his career. I have not seen any human rights protest yet. If you have, please let me know, they deserve admiration.

As for stupidity, you are projecting again.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Your long winded paragraphs on what took me a few sentences to surmise on Rogan and covid and why I watch the olympics is deflection.
 

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