gas prices

[Dude#1279435]

Someone has to apologize, so I will. So sorry for voting for him. I was hoping for a moderate but alas get your poop passed. $3.49 in my state and that's the average nationally.. WTF is going on in Cali. $4.71??? Yikes. Can remember back in 2006-07 when it reached over $4.

AAA Gas Prices

 

[davidscott]

Yeah, I voted for Bidin also and won't again. As bad as he is his vice president is worse. But bad as they both are at least they are not criminals like Donald J. Hopefully the Republicans will get of the Trump train and give us a nice choice in the 2024 election. But I'm not holding my breath.

 

[shadyJ]

So you guys are holding the president responsible for gas prices? What else are you holding him responsible for? The rising cost of tomatoes? Shortages in cucumbers? You do realize that the only way a president can directly affect the cost of gasoline is by opening up the strategic patroluem reserves, or declaring war on a gas-producing country, or signing legislation that taxes gas, or placing an embargo on a gas-producing nation? Do any of those sound like good ideas to you? Do you know that oil companies have made many billions in profit for these price increases? And you know what they are using that profit for? Stock buybacks.

 

[ryanosaur]

Get off the gas tip, b!tches!
It was expensive under Trump, too.
Then be thankful you aren't in Europe where several nations are paying over $6.00 USD per gallon.

Like Europe, California taxes our gas more heavily than other states do.

Welcome to life burning fossil fuels. Oh... and paying for roads and other state and municipal projects.

Fuel taxes in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rnatalli]

Let it go higher; then perhaps we will look into more sustainable transportation systems instead of the garbage we presently endure.

 

[WookieGR]

I remember when gas was .98 a gallon, f^ck Bush.

 

[rnatalli]

I remember when gas was .98 a gallon, f^ck Bush.

Yup. I used to fill up on super 93 for $1.09/gallon.

 

[davidscott]

It's not just gas prices. Let see inflation, the handling of the border, the way we left Afghanistan, (that was a big one for me) and other issues have me souring on this administration that I helped vote in. Harris has pretty much been invisible, so Joe has been on his own. Well, they have a few years to right the ship so we will see. I hate that their failures are just giving Trump and his cronies ammunition.

 

[davidscott]

I remember when gas was .98 a gallon, f^ck Bush.

I'm old. I remember 29 cents a gallon when I was in Jr high.

 

[ryanosaur]

It's not just gas prices. Let see inflation, the handling of the border, the way we left Afghanistan, (that was a big one for me) and other issues have me souring on this administration that I helped vote in. Harris has pretty much been invisible, so Joe has been on his own. Well, they have a few years to right the ship so we will see. I hate that their failures are just giving Trump and his cronies ammunition.

Inflation started rising under T, and he set the stage for B on that other point.

I'm not here to toot the horn of the dems... They have skin in the game and are just as much to blame for other things.

We keep letting idiots run the country because all the dumb people are scared of smart people.

And smart people don't want to run the country.

We.
B.
F'd.

 

[davidscott]

Inflation started rising under T, and he set the stage for B on that other point.

I'm not here to toot the horn of the dems... They have skin in the game and are just as much to blame for other things.

We keep letting idiots run the country because all the dumb people are scared of smart people.

And smart people don't want to run the country.

We.
B.
F'd.

I'm with you. I am an independent but lately both parties have let me down. Trump and some of his peeps should be in federal prison but the current administration has been largely ineffective. We'll just have to see where this goes.

 

[SithZedi]

Trump can be blamed for many, many things but not oil and gas prices during his term. Gas rose 11% in his worst year in office. Biden is averaging 45% in a year and change. Government policy does have a crucial role to play in the price of oil. You have to pursue a policy of increasing supply to keep the price down.

Gasoline Inflation in the United States (1968-2024)

The average price of gasoline fell 12.2% in the 12 months ending October as compared to the annual decrease of 15.3% in September, according to the most recent inflation data published November 13, 2024, by the U.S. Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). Gasoline is an important...

www.usinflationcalculator.com

Gas prices started rising the second Biden took office. Cancelled oil pipeline projects on his first day in office. He (rather the people controlling him) set the tone right away in the campaign by pushing there version of a green agenda. There are so many things tied to the price of oil it escapes most writers in the financial pages. All plastics, transportation costs, fertilizer to produce crops, lubricants (not for her pleasure), Paraffin Wax (covers fruit, sealants in cans and bottles, Insulation for electric wires), sulfur (fungicides, pesticides, pharma drugs), the list is tremendous.

Price of oil goes up and all of the above products and more go up in price. Thank god, Build Back Better did not pass. That was loaded with more regulations that would have increased prices further.

 

[j_garcia]

You have the same people to blame for gas prices now that you did before: OPEC. Regulation is not what is driving price up, idiots in charge of oil are and they have been doing it since the 80s. Oil cartels are strangling oil to drive up the price because the demand is lower than ever and the only way they can continue to build cities in the desert and line their pockets with gold is to do just that. Electrification will continue to drive demand down so gas will go up... If you think it is high now, just wait, because it will keep going up, regardless of the US administration.

 

[SithZedi]

You have the same people to blame for gas prices now that you did before: OPEC. Regulation is not what is driving price up, idiots in charge of oil are and they have been doing it since the 80s.

Blame who you wish. OPEC was fairly neutralized in US influence when we opened up the pipelines from Canada and started drilling in the Permian Basin amoung other places. Its about supply.
Regulations are necessary, at least reasonable ones, but they add to cost by reducing potential supply. That's economics 101.

 

[Mikado463]

I'm old. I remember 29 cents a gallon when I was in Jr high.

LOL, I'm even older I remember early sixties when it was less than 20 cents a gallon, Texaco 'Fire chief' !

 

[Mikado463]

So you guys are holding the president responsible for gas prices? What else are you holding him responsible for?

Screwed up exit from Afghanistan, Southern border mess for starters.

But yes I too voted for him just to do my part to get rid of Trump

 

[j_garcia]

Blame who you wish. OPEC was fairly neutralized in US influence when we opened up the pipelines from Canada and started drilling in the Permian Basin amoung other places. Its about supply.
Regulations are necessary, at least reasonable ones, but they add to cost by reducing potential supply. That's economics 101.

It isn't one thing, but they still hold enough sway to drive prices up. They aren't the only ones benefitting from higher oil prices, but you don't see anyone saying "Hey, don't throw your money at me."

 

[Danzilla31]

So you guys are holding the president responsible for gas prices? What else are you holding him responsible for? The rising cost of tomatoes? Shortages in cucumbers? You do realize that the only way a president can directly affect the cost of gasoline is by opening up the strategic patroluem reserves, or declaring war on a gas-producing country, or signing legislation that taxes gas, or placing an embargo on a gas-producing nation? Do any of those sound like good ideas to you? Do you know that oil companies have made many billions in profit for these price increases? And you know what they are using that profit for? Stock buybacks.

As pointed out policies can affect prices but I feel a more interesting question is Shady what do you feel Biden and Harris have done right?
I'm not saying your defending him but if your asking us what we don't like that Biden has done do you mind some of us asking you in the spirit of inquiry what you believe he has done right?

 

[SithZedi]

It isn't one thing, but they still hold enough sway to drive prices up. They aren't the only ones benefitting from higher oil prices, but you don't see anyone saying "Hey, don't throw your money at me."

I see what you are saying. It's human nature to get as much as you can while you can. Out of all classes of business, I wish the politicians would say, "Hey don't throw your money at me" That could solve many of our problems....

 

[Danzilla31]

Screwed up exit from Afghanistan, Southern border mess for starters.

But yes I too voted for him just to do my part to get rid of Trump

I know this wasn't my smartest move in participating in a democratic process but I just didn't vote in 2016 and 2020. I just remember being so disguisted in our prospects on both sides of the aisle both elections. I felt what @ryanosaur said about how leaders at the top were just so bad as options. Felt like I'd be voting for the peanut gallery either way and that just really got to me. First time in my life I sat out and didn't vote.