Bluetooth adaptor to avr; no sound

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Fossil Bob

Audiophyte
Yamaha yba11 Bluetooth adaptor works on upstairs avr but won’t play on Onkyo 505 avr even though it shoes paired and connected.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Did you check input assignment for the input you're using?
 
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Fossil Bob

Audiophyte
Input is to digital coax. Two inputs , tried both. No USB port so I used iPhone USB plug for power, Others on web have done same. No luck.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
The input assignment for digital/analog inputs in the avr is what I meant. Others have same issue with the BT receiver or the specific avr?
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
I bought two generic bluetooth adapters off of amazon and they both have analog RCA outputs. Im not sure why the Yamaha model chooses to use a digital coax line out as bluetooth only carries two channels. That to me is a complete waste of time and money. I also dont like that the Yamaha requires the use of a battery. If I were in your shoes, I would get one of the generic bluetooth adapters off of Amazon.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I bought two generic bluetooth adapters off of amazon and they both have analog RCA outputs. Im not sure why the Yamaha model chooses to use a digital coax line out as bluetooth only carries two channels. That to me is a complete waste of time and money. I also dont like that the Yamaha requires the use of a battery. If I were in your shoes, I would get one of the generic bluetooth adapters off of Amazon.
Possibly to cater to those who have external dacs? The coax output would be a bit strange for portability (what I thought of first about battery).

In any case, I'd think any avr with the digital coax input should be able to use the signal....
 
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3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Possibly to cater to those who have external dacs? The coax output would be a bit strange for portability (what I thought of first about battery).

In any case, I'd think any avr with the digital coax input should be able to use the signal....
Agreed. I still think that coax is still way overkill for bluetooth application.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Agreed. I still think that coax is still way overkill for bluetooth application.
Yeah I'd definitely include a dac in that Yamaha BT receiver so you had also the option of analog output....not much special about a digital or analog BT signal anyways. I'd rather use wifi but this avr is a bit old to have that....
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
They may have been more concerned with space saving and form factor. They may also have not wanted to deal with complaints about a lousy DAC. I think, like @lovinthehd, that the coaxial assignment is not correct in the receiver. On the 505, the COAX 1 is set to DVD and COAX 2 is set to CBL/SAT. Those two input selectors may well be assigned to the HDMI ports and do not need COAXIAL assignments for digital audio. One could use COAX 1 or COAX 2 and reassign either of them AUX.
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Didn't notice in first read that there was an iPhone plug mentioned. If using an iPhone that supports Airplay 2, the AirPort Extreme Gen 2 would be a good fit in place of the bluetooth device. It has an analog/optical output for either connection but appropriate cables would need to be purchased. It was updated to support Airplay 2. They can be had on eBay for not too much money. Airplay 2 supports lossless audio and multiple speakers so one iPhone could send audio to several Airplay 2 equipped AVRs and/or speakers simultaneously.
 
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Fossil Bob

Audiophyte
Thanks,folks. Misunderstood lovinthehd ‘s question. Used DVD input and set av to DVD both with and without assign switch. Have a feeling I havent got the switching or the hookup correct. Having problems with entire setup. New LG tv go with recent wifI. Have Bell sat tv from before . Ran HDMI from sat receiver to av receiver in; out to HDMI in on tv. (Also composite R,W,Y from sat to av). Video on tv and sound from av speakers. On wifi video and sound on tv only, nothing from av speakers. On upstairs Yamaha RX -V 673 ran optical from tv to av; stereo from speakers on Netflix. Same hookup with Onkyo, no sound through av. Also DVD has video, no sound.
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Not sure I'm understanding all of that but there is an issue with the 505 that, well, sucks. The HDMI connection will pass Video AND Audio to the TV as it is a passthrough with no way to assign the audio to the receiver. You must make an analog and/or digital connection to the receiver from the devices as well. So, a cable box or disc player with HDMI port must also be connected to the receiver with an analog and/or digital cable for audio. You will also need to turn the sound all the way down in the TV.

First, to get audio from the bluetooth device, plug it into a free COAXIAL port. Then, press the AUX source button on the front of the receiver. After pressing it, press the DIGITAL INPUT button on the front of the receiver. Look at the information on the receiver's display and select the COAXIAL input to which you have connected the bluetooth device. Now, try playing some music and see if you get any sound. For TV audio, connect an optical cable from the TV to the optical 2(CD) input. These connections will leave one COAXIAL and one OPTICAL port available for the digital audio connections of any devices using the HDMI ports for video. The sat box may have one or both output ports to make a digital connection to the receiver so that Dolby Digital audio can be played.

Because of the lack of the audio signal to the receiver's speakers using HDMI connection directly to the receiver, you might prefer connecting any HDMI connectable devices directly to the TV. The TV will pass the audio signal of connected devices from the optical cable to the receiver and save you some cable connections. You can go down to just one optical and one coaxial connection to the receiver and only have to change between two sources. You'd select CD for audio coming from the TV and AUX to hear music from the bluetooth device. There will be some sound settings to deal with in the TV as well but I'm sure your head is already spinning. I'm a little dizzy myself.o_O
 
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Fossil Bob

Audiophyte
Thank you, Your help is greatly appreciated . Will try your setup tomorrow and get back to you with results. One new wrinkle in the last hour: wifi (Netflix andYoutube ) will play through the speakers with the AVR set on Tape. Don’t know why it didn’t before because I was sure I tried every possible . Also, I have never had or used a tape player or that input. Not sure what it means ( probably nothing good) . Have to move upstairs setup out from wall to access Bluetooth adaptor to try your setup downstairs so a job for later. Thanks again.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Thanks,folks. Misunderstood lovinthehd ‘s question. Used DVD input and set av to DVD both with and without assign switch. Have a feeling I havent got the switching or the hookup correct. Having problems with entire setup. New LG tv go with recent wifI. Have Bell sat tv from before . Ran HDMI from sat receiver to av receiver in; out to HDMI in on tv. (Also composite R,W,Y from sat to av). Video on tv and sound from av speakers. On wifi video and sound on tv only, nothing from av speakers. On upstairs Yamaha RX -V 673 ran optical from tv to av; stereo from speakers on Netflix. Same hookup with Onkyo, no sound through av. Also DVD has video, no sound.
Has this Onkyo unit worked well before with everything else?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Thank you, Your help is greatly appreciated . Will try your setup tomorrow and get back to you with results. One new wrinkle in the last hour: wifi (Netflix andYoutube ) will play through the speakers with the AVR set on Tape. Don’t know why it didn’t before because I was sure I tried every possible . Also, I have never had or used a tape player or that input. Not sure what it means ( probably nothing good) . Have to move upstairs setup out from wall to access Bluetooth adaptor to try your setup downstairs so a job for later. Thanks again.
If tape monitor circuit engaged (if it has one) could explain some....
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Do you mean Netflix and YouTube using the TV’s internal apps and a wifi connection to the router? I’m still dizzy.:D
 
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Fossil Bob

Audiophyte
Thanks,folks. Misunderstood lovinthehd ‘s question. Used DVD input and set av to DVD both with and without assign switch. Have a feeling I havent got the switching or the hookup correct. Having problems with entire setup. New LG tv go with recent wifI. Have Bell sat tv from before . Ran HDMI from sat receiver to av receiver in; out to HDMI in on tv. (Also composite R,W,Y from sat to av). Video on tv and sound from av speakers. On wifi video and sound on tv only, nothing from av speakers. On upstairs Yamaha RX -V 673 ran optical from tv to av; stereo from speakers on Netflix. Same hookup with Onkyo, no sound through av. Also DVD has video, no sound.
Do you mean Netflix and YouTube using the TV’s internal apps and a wifi connection to the router? I’m still dizzy.:D
Yes, watching Netflix right now. Can’t explain it, Inwas positive I tried all possible combinations before. To watch satellite tv I use the Onkyo set to sat tv for audio. Now it seems I can get wifi ( Netflix, YouTube etc with the Onkyo set to tape. Don’t know if I can get any sound with blue tooth yet.Will try your connections tomorrow.
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
So, optical cable is connected from the TV and into the receiver and audio works when source is set to TAPE?
 
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Fossil Bob

Audiophyte
Yes, correct. Wifi works on avr set to tape; Bell express vu sat tv audio works when avr set to sat/tv. Haven’t got DVD player to work yet (haven’t tried that hard). Really hoping to get Bluetooth adapter working to hear my iTunes playlist through proper speakers . Optical cable hooked from LG tv to receiver. Tv has one coax ,2 HDMI and an LAN in and one optical out.
 
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Fossil Bob

Audiophyte
Update on fussy Onkyo. No way will Samsung DVD player work with Onkyo receiver. Tried it on Yamaha receiver and also tv alone and works fine. Bought a new blue ray player (LG) ; works perfectly. Also , bought a Bluetooth adaptor from Amazon as suggested (1Mii ), worked perfectly right out of the box. The digital audio ports on the Onkyo don’t appear to be working ; also the remote sometimes has trouble switching , plus the unit is old. As well , the receiver is a tight fit in our tv cabinet (wife’s favourite , can’t change) so I removed the metal case to prevent overheating years ago. So between it being a nest for dust bunnies and factoring in a few lightning strikes over the years that fried satellite receiver and a couple of computers ( surge protected) I‘m probably lucky it works at all.
Thanks for all your suggestions and comments. Love my music; hate computers. First time on a forum: never been on Facebook, Twitter or any social media. Please excuse my clumsy attempt.
 
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