New Audyssey X

[Hetfield]

Does this sound interesting, it kinda does to me but you guys be the judge. You guys will know better than me.

Audyssey releases MultEQ-X advanced room calibration for Denon and Marantz AVRs

A desktop-based app for enhanced tweaking

www.whathifi.com

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[William Lemmerhirt]

Yes please!

 

[panteragstk]

Wonder who will be the first to buy this? I'll admit it, I'm tempted for the theater AVR, but $200? Hmm.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

but $200? Hmm.

no thank you! Lol

I saw this somewhere else this morning. Didn’t catch that it’s 200 bucks.

 

[Hetfield]

Wonder who will be the first to buy this? I'll admit it, I'm tempted for the theater AVR, but $200? Hmm.

Yeah that's quite a bit of money and I was having a baby over 20 bucks for the Audyssey app. I'm not biting on this till there are great reviews, and YouTube videos walking through this entire process. It sounds complicated to me but so did the app. and I use that will ease now.

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[panteragstk]

no thank you! Lol

I saw this somewhere else this morning. Didn’t catch that it’s 200 bucks.

To be fair...this is basically Audyssey Pro, but repackaged for "power users" or whatever. I'm sure there is a lot more functionality than pro used to have just because this is newer, but even if I want this my luck will probably hold out and my 4300h won't be supported.

 

[MLadia]

i have a basic Denon s740h. I would put that $200 into buying a better AVR... I use REW, umik1 and a MiniDSP... Because it is mated into ONE AVR, i will wait till I get a better AVR with the XT32.

 

[Pogre]

Well first off... 200 bones??

Secondly, "Available from today, the in-app purchase of MultEQ-X costs $200 (around £151 / AU$281) and includes a non-transferable license that entitles a single user to calibrate one specific AVR for the lifetime of that product.".

Does that mean you spend $200 for it but you can only use it with 1 receiver? Meaning you have to spend $200 every time you buy a new receiver if you want to continue using it? No thanks. I'm getting fantastic results using the $20 editor app right now and can't imagine getting much more out of it for another $200.

 

[Hetfield]

Well first off... 200 bones??

Secondly, "Available from today, the in-app purchase of MultEQ-X costs $200 (around £151 / AU$281) and includes a non-transferable license that entitles a single user to calibrate one specific AVR for the lifetime of that product.".

Does that mean you spend $200 for it but you can only use it with 1 receiver? Meaning you have to spend $200 every time you buy a new receiver if you want to continue using it? No thanks. I'm getting fantastic results using the $20 editor app right now and can't imagine getting much more out of it for another $200.

That's what it sounds like to me. 2 years down the road when you upgrade to a new receiver you will not be able to use this and will have to buy again. That's crazy in my opinion.

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[Pogre]

That's what it sounds like to me. 2 years down the road when you upgrade to a new receiver you will not be able to use this and will have to buy again. That's crazy in my opinion.

If you were able to transfer the license to a new receiver there's a better argument for it. Even at that $200 is a lot of money for what appears to me to be more superfluous features and some more control. That might make your charts look a little bit better, but is it something that's going to translate to the next level in hifi sound quality? I dunno. Not willing to drop 200 bones to find out.

 

[lovinthehd]

Well it'll be a while before it matters to me since I can't even use the editor app with mine....but is cheaper than Audyssey Pro kit as a whole was (which had a $150 license for each receiver, IIRC) but doesn't come with a calibrated mic like the Pro kit did....

 

[panteragstk]

Well it'll be a while before it matters to me since I can't even use the editor app with mine....but is cheaper than Audyssey Pro kit as a whole was (which had a $150 license for each receiver, IIRC) but doesn't come with a calibrated mic like the Pro kit did....

Good point. No mic makes it even more expensive. Unless it still uses the mic that comes with the AVR. I'll admit that I'm curious, but I'm not "setting money on fire" curious.

 

[lovinthehd]

Good point. No mic makes it even more expensive. Unless it still uses the mic that comes with the AVR. I'll admit that I'm curious, but I'm not "setting money on fire" curious.

If it's just software then I also assume you continue to use your original Audyssey mic....but would be nice if it could accommodate a regular measurement mic and its calibration file....

 

[panteragstk]

If it's just software then I also assume you continue to use your original Audyssey mic....but would be nice if it could accommodate a regular measurement mic and its calibration file....

I know this would never happen, but it would be really nice if they'd include REW compatibility. Heck, that Storm Audio pre/pro Gene reviewed has support, and they have Dirac built in.

 

[ryanosaur]

REW and Dirac seem to have a relationship, even beyond that of MiniDSP and Dirac. They make excellent bedfellows.
I am interested in learning more about this AudX. But I agree they should open themselves to compatibility with REW and OmniMic and any other measurement system that is used by industry professionals.

 

[ryanosaur]

Side thought:
Dirac licenses seem to be included with the purchase of hardware, but additional content is not. Perhaps this is the difference in some of what I have heard about in the new Onkyos vs the HTp-1. Also the add on Bass Control module which is $300/$500 depending on the level you want.
Curious: it seems I’ve heard that Dirac licensing is something that can be transferred from compatible device to compatible device. I have not explored this deeply as I have never owned a Dirac enabled product.
It could be a serious selling point if so…

 

[PENG]

Side thought:
Dirac licenses seem to be included with the purchase of hardware, but additional content is not. Perhaps this is the difference in some of what I have heard about in the new Onkyos vs the HTp-1. Also the add on Bass Control module which is $300/$500 depending on the level you want.
Curious: it seems I’ve heard that Dirac licensing is something that can be transferred from compatible device to compatible device. I have not explored this deeply as I have never owned a Dirac enabled product.
It could be a serious selling point if so…

I attended the webinar today but was multi-tasking so I missed part of it for sure. From what I could remember:

- $200 for the license for one machine and will be identified by the serial number of the AVR/AVP.
- If the AVR/AVP is listed as compatible to the MultEQ Editor App, it will be compatible with the MultEQ X.
- If the AVR/AVP failed, you can call them and they would help you use the the same license if the replacement unit it the same model, otherwise not.
- It won't let you use the Umik mic, but I think he did say working on making use of the Audyssey pro kit.
- the customized target curve would be done with PEQ, but there is no limit to how many can apply, unlike Yamaha's.

The PEQ part is a surprise to me as they still emphasized the fact that Audyssey use FIR, I put the question in but no luck getting it looked at, apparently in my session there were hundreds of people attending. I guess I will have to wait for an opportunity to contact them about the use of PEQ, as I am quite sure (though no 100%) the App doesn't use PEQ but provide inputs to the algorithm that would then re-do the FIR filter set, but again I may be wrong.

From what I remember seeing, this thing is going to be good for those who love to play and you can see the effects immediately when you made the changes via the App (that use windows PC), but of course such effects are not actual, not until you have completed the changes, and the new filters calculated, then iiuc, you an go back and see the actual effects/results (that's the part that I missed quite a bit so what I just said could be inaccurate.

 

[panteragstk]

- If the AVR/AVP failed, you can call them and they would help you use the the same license if the replacement unit it the same model, otherwise not.

Not cool, but thanks a bunch for attending so I didn't have to I am in too many of these things as it is...

 

[PENG]

Not cool, but thanks a bunch for attending so I didn't have to I am in too many of these things as it is...

Not cool for sure, but we do have the choice to just use the $20 app. It would probably be fair if one's unit failed within 5 years (or 7 better still) and replaced with another D or M, they get to use the same licence regardless of the model of the replacement unit. I think what the guy said during the webinar may not necessarily be final though, so hopefully a more reasonable approach will prevail. $200 is a lot of extra money to spend for someone forced to buy another unit only because of a failure, not because they want to uprade.

 

[panteragstk]

Not cool for sure, but we do have the choice to just use the $20 app. It would probably be fair if one's unit failed within 5 years (or 7 better still) and replaced with another D or M, they get to use the same licence regardless of the model of the replacement unit. I think what the guy said during the webinar may not necessarily be final though, so hopefully a more reasonable approach will prevail. $200 is a lot of extra money to spend for someone forced to buy another unit only because of a failure, not because they want to uprade.

That's what annoys me about my 4300h. I'd love to try this PC version, but that's too much (unless it's just a massive upgrade, time will tell). I also have no Auro3D, but I could for $150. The 4400h has it built in.