Denver Interview - (potentially inflammatory!)

killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
As clearly stated in the title, I'm aware this might turn many an eyebrow. This is why I want to clearly state that MY honest opinion is that this is pure BS. I'm not here to give legs to the subject. Even if someone thinks otherwise, at least I said where I stand.

Do you know who's the author or if it ever took place?

As I said, I don't think there's anything to it, I think it's completely made up, but I'm interested in what part has been made up? Does anyone know? Are there really people like this who have conversations like this? Did anyone make claim on this interview? Is the interviewee the one who's making it up or has he also been made up?

I'm asking on Audioholics because I know there's a long going thread on the topic of Corona and I know many have showed interest.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Were you going to link something? Not familiar with "Denver Interview" in any case....
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
As clearly stated in the title, I'm aware this might turn many an eyebrow. This is why I want to clearly state that MY honest opinion is that this is pure BS. I'm not here to give legs to the subject. Even if someone thinks otherwise, at least I said where I stand.

Do you know who's the author or if it ever took place?

As I said, I don't think there's anything to it, I think it's completely made up, but I'm interested in what part has been made up? Does anyone know? Are there really people like this who have conversations like this? Did anyone make claim on this interview? Is the interviewee the one who's making it up or has he also been made up?

I'm asking on Audioholics because I know there's a long going thread on the topic of Corona and I know many have showed interest.
What interview are you referring to?
 
killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
Sorry, sorry people! I thought you might know something already. Even your questions are quite discouraging.

The original site was taken down probably to stop the spread of fake news. I'll try to find out if it was shared somewhere and get back.

It was the one where an anonymous person makes a claim that is quite opposite to the known conspiracy theories. It's still a conspiracy theory, of course. This time it says something like who ever buys into fake news, which are supposedly spread intentionally and believes in antivaxx ideas, will, through his own stupidity, be left for dead...

It's hard to recreate, it was something like "they gave you the virus, the cure and the misinformation". Now it's up to each and everyone of us to not fall for the misinformation and take the cure. Those who doesn't, write themselves off.

You see the twist? It's still the "global cabal", it's still "the plandemic" only this time the vaccine is not there to harm you, but not taking the vaccine will rule you out. It was something fiendish in the whole idea. Like letting stupidity weed itself out. It still played into conspiracy about lowering the number of people on the planet, but as if they found a way to purge the gene-pool of the stupid ones.

*Not my words, I'm not calling anyone stupid.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Sounds like we need @ryanosaur's drinking game to keep up! Have no idea what you're referring to still, but I don't pay much attention to that sort of stuff....but we are definitely in an age of misinformation.
 
killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
Have no idea what you're referring to still, but I don't pay much attention to that sort of stuff
And you shouldn't, sure. I'm only curious about who wrote the stuff, but don't assign any worth to it.

What's the drinking game? Haven't heard about it, sounds funny.

In the meantime, HA! found it:

- Story goes it was found footage. Somewhere on the Denver airport (first red flag, right? There are tons of conspiracy theories tied to the Denver airport) a notebook was found together with some other stuff and a recorder. The notes in the notebook are just made from the recording so they are almost identical. These are the supposed notes:

Q: Alright, we've spoken about this off-record, I was wondering, however, if you’d be willing to say it once again on-record for my readers…
A: …sure, yeah…. eeeehm, what were we talking about? (laughter)


Q: Let me freshen up your memory, yeah… It was your identity… I asked you if you would go on-record and publicly state your name and occupation as well as your function on the committee we’re discussing today?
A: Ah, yes! Who am I and what do I do? And my answer, if I remember correctly, was that I’m only willing to do this as John Doe and no other way.


Q: I guess I can deduce from that fact that there’s some level of real threat for you or, I mean something that can jeopardize either you or your health in some way… or a member of your family?
A: Oh, no! You got this quite the other way around. What family? (laughter) No, not the family. No. Joking aside, it doesn’t affect me at all. You got this really wrong. Those things don’t happen to people any more…


Q: What things?
A: Well, correct me if I’m wrong, you meant if my life was threatened? My or the life of someone dear to me?

Q: Yes.
A: No, these things don’t happen in that fashion any more. That’s why we let rumors and false news run amok. Nothing I say will have any heft. It would be a mistake if anyone came after me. I don’t expect them to make such a mistake.


Q: Why would it be a mistake?
A: It just isn’t done. Only when you come after me, do you add some credence to the story. So, no one will. My guess is, if you ask me, my opinion is they’ll just let it play out and pay no attention and that's what’ll discredit the story.


Q: How will letting a story spread freely, discredit the story?
A: Because people expect the old “action – reaction” model to play out. People are just lazy and lulled. They’re judging the story in the lights of aftermaths. If there’s no aftermath, there’s no story. That’s what I believe is going on.


Q: You wouldn’t recommend this, this… the way they are reacting, you wouldn’t recommend that? If they were after the truth, you’d advise them otherwise?
A: I wouldn’t recommend anything. I’m just telling you, we’ve noticed that when people can’t tell the truth and the lie apart, they wait for the reaction of some authority, whether it’s a politician, some investigative body, a priest… (laughter) But, I’m saying that if you don’t give them reaction, they simply lose interest. Well, more precisely, they write it off.


Q: As a lie?
A: As false.


Q: But you are saying, then, that it’s all false news? That it’s rumors, right? You said and I quote: “we let the false news and the rumors run amok” so most of it is false? It’s just conspiracy theories as they’re known these days? And if you allow a follow up question, who uses “amok” anymore? (Both laughing loudly)
A: Yes, amok. It’s my love of old English to blame. You see, we tend to look at conspiracy theories differently, some of it is true, some of it is false, but it’s not always clear which is which. It’s mixed, truth with the lies. And then there’s the third kind, the “uncheckable” which is the most persistent. How’re you going to check the moon landing? You’d have to land again at the exact same spot and, what? Find the footprint or the flag? It’s impossible. And then there’s the response of the public. Even if you’d find the flag, people would say that the flag is staged or that the new landing is also staged like they said for the original, sooo… You know, “uncheckable”.


Q: But let me take this story to the beginning then, why, if you say you’re not in harm’s way, why won’t you give us your real name and identity?
A: Oh, that? It has nothing to do with harm. At least not in the form of a specific company putting out a contract on me or any such nonsense. It’s the public. We’re perfectly aware of what we’ve created and I’m having none of it. My life would never cease to be a living hell. It’s because of the pubic.


Q: Why take risk then, why do what you’re doing right now? Why do all this?
A: A good question. Haven’t really thought about that. I’d say, when all is said and done, I want to give the information to, you know, to people, to audience, who ever wants to listen and let them have a real chance of deciding what they want to do. Decide for themselves. You know, to act or not to act.


Q: Can’t they do that as it is? Do you think they can’t decide on their own?
A: My story is missing. I don’t see my story taking equal part in this, so… I’d say no. They don’t have all the information. Only after they hear me out.


Q: OK, so now we get to the interesting part and to the “why you’re here” part. What is missing?
A: It’s a double bluff. As simple as a double bluff. You need to keep it simple if you want it to work. The part of it that’s true is that it’s all about controlling the population or over-population if you will. The planet is vastly overstressed. Overexploited. There are far too many people living. But most of us agree that no living person should or could judge and decide on other people’s lives. Everyone would be bias. It’s impossible to overcome bias. A doctor from India would save his own people, while someone from Texas, US, thinks no one from India should be left to live.


Q: That’s preposterous! Am I wasting my time here? Is this a false alarm? You can’t really mean that! So, no human can, and what you did…
A: It’s not preposterous. You only need to look at the end outcome.


Q: What?! What end outcome? You can’t be serious! So, you’re saying to me, here, what you’re saying, let me get this straight, you’re saying that since a human being can’t decide who gets to live, that you left it to a virus to decide. You let the virus decide on... on... on future. On future of everything, on…
A: No, no. You’re still not getting it. The virus decides nothing. It’s you. It’s all you. You decide if you’re worth saving. Look, all we did was to let two different viruses…


Q: I can’t decide what a virus does! How could it be up to me what a virus does. What are you saying? That’s not what you did! What you did is let a virus do your dirty deed! You let a disease decimate the population! This can’t be true?!
A: Look, I’m here! Remember? I don’t think it’s fair either.


Q: YOU DON’T THINK IT’S FAIR? I can’t believe this! I can’t… You’re a murderer. That’s what you are. That’s who you are. You’re a mass murderer. You don’t think it’s fair?! Oh, that’s such a relief…
A: Now imagine almost eight billion people reacting the way you did… We can’t have that. What was I supposed to do?


Q: What were you supposed to do? I can’t believe this. I can’t believe I’m having this conver… I can’t believe you’re saying what you’re saying. I would put you in front of a firing squad. I can’t, I can’t… You deserve to die. This is not…
A: Do you remember the video where Bill Gates talks about the future where they control the population with the vaccine?


Q: Well, they’re not controlling it with vaccine, do they? You’re controlling it with a virus! It’s not them, it’s you and you’re controlling it with a virus.
A: Not quite. Hear me out. As I said, people are deciding for themselves. And it’s not the virus, it’s really down to vaccine, but what people got wrong was that you control the ones that take the vaccine. You’re not. You’re controlling…


Q: What do you mean? How can you control the ones that are not exposed to…
A: Let me put it this way; all we did was to let two viruses into the general public. What Bill Gates meant was that those smart enough to take the vaccine will live and those…


Q: There are more variants than two.
A: Hear me out. I’m not talking about variants. One virus that we designed and let out was the Covid-19, the one that you know. Variants don’t matter. The other was pure marketing or as is generally known a conspiracy theory. We let the virus and the conspiracy theory. One for the body and one for the mind. Both are deadly. Covid-19 is deadly directly and the conspiracy theory is deadly indirectly, but only if you fail to…


Q: You let the conspiracy theory?! Oh my God!
A: You’ll only get infected if you fail to show the minimum amount of critical thought and opt for the deadlier option because of the rumors about the cure. You got the disease, the vaccine and the rumor. Or the conspiracy about the vaccine. We all believed it was genius back then. You let one’s own stupidity be his downfall. His final judgement. It was the great cleansing. The final cleansing. The way to get rid of the “Neanderthal remnants” as we used to call them. I mean, what better way then to reduce the population by the number of those incapable of a basic human function as thought? It’s like cleaning the gene pool. You get rid of the ones incapable of sustaining their lives thru the basic weapon evolution gave us, through thinking. Thinking is there to help you survive.


Q: “Neanderthal remnants”??
A: The unevolved ones. There was no other way. We hoped for a Planet B, but that failed. There are simply too many people on this planet. It’s overcrowded. The depletion of natural resources…


Q: So you thought you’d kill half of them?
A: Like I said, I don’t think it was a good plan. That’s why I’m telling you this.


Q: You don’t think it was a good plan?! This global deadly IQ quiz? You really don’t think it was a good plan?! You take the pill and you live, you don’t and you pulled a plug on yourself? You deserve to die… For the love of me, you deserve to die! Who are you?! Fucking tell me right now!!
A: I really can’t. It’s more or less like that, yes. If you can’t assess such an important risk as your life risk, you’re living off of civilization’s mercy. You’re latching onto the good heartedness of others. I'm trying to avoid the term parasite.


Q: So, what you’re saying is that there are no risks to the vaccine? This is horseshit! This is utter horseshit! What about the mortality rate? This makes no sense to me! The mortality rate is not high enough… This makes no sense.
A: I wouldn’t worry about the mortality rate. As I said, you have the virus, the vaccine and the rumor. If you don’t infect your mind with the rumor about the vaccine, you can cure your body of the disease with the vaccine.


Q: What do you mean you wouldn’t worry about the mortality rate?! What’s the real mortality rate?! I can’t listen to this anymore. I can’t be a part of this. For Christ’s… I can’t be a part of this. This is, this is, this is like a Hollywood movie script. This can’t be true! I can’t listen to this anymore.


…noise… End of recording and end of interview.
 
killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
Yes it is. It reads like a novel or a movie script to me.
Sure, we agree. But have you heard anything about it? Was it discussed anywhere else, on any news outlet? is anyone from this story a real person or is it all just fiction?
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
Sure, we agree. But have you heard anything about it? Was it discussed anywhere else, on any news outlet? is anyone from this story a real person or is it all just fiction?
This is the first I've heard of this particular interview, but the whole using covid, vaccines and misinformation to mislead the public isn't anything new. I have a hard time believing anyone could do an interview like this and maintain their anonymity after dropping bombshells like that. There are ways to trace where a call or computer conversation came from and based on the interviewer's reactions I'd think he'd pull out all of the stops to do it.

Ultimately I dunno, but I'm unsurprised reading crap like this. It's all upsetting tho, the way info gets twisted and we're all being lied to, to some extent by everyone on all sides of the issue. I fancy myself a skeptic. A skeptic withholds judgement for any proposition until evidence or reasoned argument is presented to back it up. Proportion your beliefs to the evidence. You can't be a good skeptic when you can't tell if you're being lied to and it's really frustrating. The only good conclusion I can come to with any certainty based on what information I can find is that people lie and can be real pieces of shit.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
"I can't be part of this" and yet, it made it to the view of the public.

I love this time of year when, if someone listens intently, they can hear the plaintive call of someone 'speaking on condition of anonymity'.
 
killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
This is the first I've heard of this particular interview, but the whole using covid, vaccines and misinformation to mislead the public isn't anything new. I have a hard time believing anyone could do an interview like this and maintain their anonymity after dropping bombshells like that. There are ways to trace where a call or computer conversation came from and based on the interviewer's reactions I'd think he'd pull out all of the stops to do it.

Ultimately I dunno, but I'm unsurprised reading crap like this. It's all upsetting tho, the way info gets twisted and we're all being lied to, to some extent by everyone on all sides of the issue. I fancy myself a skeptic. A skeptic withholds judgement for any proposition until evidence or reasoned argument is presented to back it up. Proportion your beliefs to the evidence. You can't be a good skeptic when you can't tell if you're being lied to and it's really frustrating. The only good conclusion I can come to with any certainty based on what information I can find is that people lie and can be real pieces of shit.
Yes, yes!! But my take was that someone is lying here to get people vaccinated. At least this is how I understood this particular conspiracy theory and I haven't seen such before. This is the only reason I'm interested in who wrote it and if it's at all real.

"I can't be part of this" and yet, it made it to the view of the public.

I love this time of year when, if someone listens intently, they can hear the plaintive call of someone 'speaking on condition of anonymity'.
Yeah, exactly! It's way to obvious and my take is "it's false" from the start. But it's going against the existing grain of wood. Until now you had; there's an epidemic, get vaccinated and stay safe and the other one was it's all a lie there's no epidemic, don't get vaccinated, vaccines are ........... (and here you put whatever; harmful, lethal, with a chip etc.)

You see why this one caught my eye?

Anyway, it's all worthless as no one here seems to be familiar with it. I got into a an on-line quarrel on twitter (I know what you're thinking, "you??? no way...:D ) the guy starts dropping this sh... on me.

So it's obviously non-exisiting.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Yes, yes!! But my take was that someone is lying here to get people vaccinated. At least this is how I understood this particular conspiracy theory and I haven't seen such before. This is the only reason I'm interested in who wrote it and if it's at all real.



Yeah, exactly! It's way to obvious and my take is "it's false" from the start. But it's going against the existing grain of wood. Until now you had; there's an epidemic, get vaccinated and stay safe and the other one was it's all a lie there's no epidemic, don't get vaccinated, vaccines are ........... (and here you put whatever; harmful, lethal, with a chip etc.)

You see why this one caught my eye?

Anyway, it's all worthless as no one here seems to be familiar with it. I got into a an on-line quarrel on twitter (I know what you're thinking, "you??? no way...:D ) the guy starts dropping this sh... on me.

So it's obviously non-exisiting.
When I went for my first vaccination, the pharmacist asked if I had any questions and my first one was "Does the needle go in longer than it comes out?".

When we walked out from behind the screen into the area where others were waiting, I dragged one leg and dropped my shoulder on the same side, to make it seem that it was because of the shot. I saw no reaction, whatsoever.:)
 
killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
When I went for my first vaccination, the pharmacist asked if I had any questions and my first one was "Does the needle go in longer than it comes out?".

When we walked out from behind the screen into the area where others were waiting, I dragged one leg and dropped my shoulder on the same side, to make it seem that it was because of the shot. I saw no reaction, whatsoever.:)
Good one! :D
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
Yes, yes!! But my take was that someone is lying here to get people vaccinated. At least this is how I understood this particular conspiracy theory and I haven't seen such before. This is the only reason I'm interested in who wrote it and if it's at all real.
Yes, it's pretty much trying to say the virus was manufactured to thin the herd and the message is the dumb ones will go first and "get vaccinated or die".

That said, there just isn't enough information to draw any conclusion either way, but the interrogator's responses come across as very unrealistic and manufactured to me.
 
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killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
Yes, it's pretty much trying to say the virus was manufactured to thin the herd and the message is the dumb ones will go first and "get vaccinated or die".

That said, there just isn't enough information to draw any conclusion either way, but the interrogator's responses come across as very unrealistic and manufactured to me.
Yes, thinning the herd but not with the vaccine, instead it's thinning by refusing the vaccine. It's not less dumb, but it's a first time I see this.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
Yes it is. It reads like a novel or a movie script to me.
Agreed, a particularly bad movie script.
This is the first I've heard of this particular interview, but the whole using covid, vaccines and misinformation to mislead the public isn't anything new.
Same for me. With all the lies and BS being slung about the virus pandemic and the vaccinations, I'm not surprised that I've not heard all of them.
Yes, it's pretty much trying to say the virus was manufactured to thin the herd and the message is the dumb ones will go first and "get vaccinated or die".
Wait, I'm confused. I thought the intent of the virus pandemic is to thin the heard of dumb ones who refuse to get vaccinated.
@killdozzer yep for whatever it's worth, first I've seen or heard of this story....
Agreed!
 
killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
Wait, I'm confused. I thought the intent of the virus pandemic is to thin the heard of dumb ones who refuse to get vaccinated.
I think you and Pogre are saying the same thing, he just worded it slightly differently with the quotation marks. I also got the feeling it's trying to say - either go for the vaccine or die.
 

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