Needing 'Separates' and size of AVR info

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hookem98

Audiophyte
Good afternoon. I am new to this site, an am hoping someone can provide some assistance. To make everything short and concise. I have proposed the following components to be installed in a family room within a new home that has yet to be studded.

Martin Logan 40i's - Front L/R
Martin Logan 30i - Center
Martin Logan EMIW - Rear In-wall
Martin Logan Sub - Dynamo 1100x
Martin Logan - Atmos (still unclear of model of speaker)

Rear patio (50'+ in length) - Martin Logan - IC8 (4 - spaced 10' apart)

My plan is to put the front speakers on a Monolith 3x or Emotiva XPA Gen 3 amp., but I am open to opinions.

Here is my question:

I am unsure of what size Marantz AVR (pondering the SR7015) to go with, and whether or not I should route all of the other speakers to the receiver. Or invest in another amp for the outside speakers, and route the rest of the surround sound speakers to the AVR.

I hope this makes sense, and would appreciate any assistance possible. Like I said, this is going to be installed in a new, yet studded home, but will be in about 2 months.

Thank you..
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
Martin Logan Sub - Dynamo 1100x ❌


 
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hookem98

Audiophyte


Thank you for the assistance.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Generally, I would recommend a secondary amplifier if you are running 2 pairs of speakers outside.

Often AV receivers for surround sound aren't rated to a 4ohm load, which is what you will get with a couple of pairs of speakers run outside.
An external amplifier, which you can pick up used on eBay for about 100 bucks, can handle a 4ohm load nicely and will deliver the full power rating to the speakers.
ie: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonance-Sonamp-260-Power-Amplifier/184560461526

Niles, Sonance, Speakercraft, Rotel, Crown, QSC and others all make reputable power amplifiers. Crown is really designed as a commercial amplifier and may provide much more power than is necessary, but is typically stable down to at least 4 ohms with a great deal of output power.

I'm a huge fan of Sonance and Rotel for their amplifier design. The Rotel stuff tends to be a bit pricey outdoor use unless you want to spent that type of cash.
 
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hookem98

Audiophyte
Generally, I would recommend a secondary amplifier if you are running 2 pairs of speakers outside.

Often AV receivers for surround sound aren't rated to a 4ohm load, which is what you will get with a couple of pairs of speakers run outside.
An external amplifier, which you can pick up used on eBay for about 100 bucks, can handle a 4ohm load nicely and will deliver the full power rating to the speakers.
ie: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonance-Sonamp-260-Power-Amplifier/184560461526

Niles, Sonance, Speakercraft, Rotel, Crown, QSC and others all make reputable power amplifiers. Crown is really designed as a commercial amplifier and may provide much more power than is necessary, but is typically stable down to at least 4 ohms with a great deal of output power.

I'm a huge fan of Sonance and Rotel for their amplifier design. The Rotel stuff tends to be a bit pricey outdoor use unless you want to spent that type of cash.
Thank you.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
My plan is to put the front speakers on a Monolith 3x or Emotiva XPA Gen 3 amp., but I am open to opinions.
Check out the Bundles. Awesome Amps
 
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TankTop5

Audioholic Field Marshall
Parasound make some great multi channel amplifiers as well.

BTW sounds like the start of an awesome system! But like others have said you should check out SVS subs instead.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I am still hoping that if repeated enough times, people will, hopefully more often than not, ask and/or respond to such questions after knowing the poster's actual power requirements.

For example, if one sits less than 10 ft from the speakers and never listen to spl more than 10 dB below reference level (frequently the case) then just about any mid range AVR can drive any 5.1/7.1 speakers including those Martin Logan's with XO set to 80 Hz. The Ohm thing may or may not matter at all.. Another example:

Person A using 8 Ohm speakers and brand/model XYZ
Person B using 4 Ohm speakers by paralleling two brand/model XYZ side by side
Person C using speakers with identical characteristics and brand/model XYZ except for argument the impedance is exactly half (4 ohms nominal) at every frequency.

If users A, B and C are all using the SR7015, listening to 75 dB from 10 ft, user A and B's SR7015 would be subjected to almost the same load current, all else (room, placement etc. etc..) being equal, at the same volume position. Person C's SR7015 would also be loaded exactly the same way, at volume position 3 dB below A and B's.

I am trying to make the point with some examples only because lately we seem to be getting questions about power/amplifier requirements and/or suitability every other day; and we keeping repeating responses such as, why do you think you need an amp anyway, just get 3 Outlaw monoblocks, may as well get a 7 channel Monolith etc etc... But what's the basis, what if the OP sits in a large room, from 4.5 to 5 meters and enjoy loud/music close to reference level at least occasionally? Sometimes we (me too) responded by linking an spl calculator, how many times we have done that on per week basis, I bet at least once, not counting mine.:D

Having said that, I can understand why a quick and somewhat safe generic response could be simply suggesting (without asking questions..) 200 W/300 W 8/4 Ohm rated amps, the likes of the Emo gen3, Monolith, Outlaw etc., listing the pros and cons of each based on what we know, and let the OP choose, obviously.
 
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