how to know if the avr is new or refurbished or returned by another customer

[Pogre]

If he doesn’t have a subwoofer wouldn’t his spea sound “lifeless “ since they are bass managed and ran as small. I do understand those are not the best speakers, but wouldn’t running them full range help some?

Yes, agreed. With no sub in the mix I'd run them full range. I must have skipped the part in his reply about the speakers being set to small.

 

[lovinthehd]

Was it you or YPAO that set speakers to small?

 

[sand87]

Was it you or YPAO that set speakers to small?

no.i set it to small as the bass was going too boomy which it shudnt

 

[sand87]

Have you tried setting YPAO to THROUGH mode?

done that yesterday

 

[sand87]

What all is available to you? Canton, SVS and Q Acoustic come to mind that might be available to you.

q accoustics and svs prime.i was also deciding btw elacs,qaccoustics and this before purchasing these polks

 

[sand87]

Here we generally consider a refurb to be a unit that's been gone thru by the manufacturer's service center, how thoroughly is always a question mark, tho. Most refurbs are based on customer returns to dealers from a conversation I had with one of the largest refurb sellers here in the US and generally were functioning fine at time of return (returned for a variety of reasons). It is provided generally here in the US with a limited warranty and resold in a slightly different box a new unit would be sold in, sometimes a specific retailer specializing in such (like our accessories4less.com) or even their own websites.

What happens in India you'll have to research with Yamaha, to see if this unit was sold thru one of their refurbishing programs (if they have one) or just some creative description from the seller. Just because it's sold thru Amazon by a dealer doesn't mean much except for how much Amazon will stand behind a return. Do you have consumer rules/laws about such?

in india amazon does support 10 day returns for this product.

 

[sand87]

q accoustics and svs prime.i was also deciding btw elacs,qaccoustics and this before purchasing these polks

considering that returning the speakers are bot an option and since you mentioned i would like to ask one thing before purchasing the rest.

when i go for the other speakers like sub and centre in coming months shud i go for polk sub and polk s30 or polk s35 centre.i guess purchasing say the centre and sub of aome other company is not recommended rt?

 

[sand87]

so today i had a look and the product is atleast 1 year old.i mean the manufacturing date of the yamaha avr is july 2019 and i got it this wednesday from the seller.

 

[Pogre]

considering that returning the speakers are bot an option and since you mentioned i would like to ask one thing before purchasing the rest.

when i go for the other speakers like sub and centre in coming months shud i go for polk sub and polk s30 or polk s35 centre.i guess purchasing say the centre and sub of aome other company is not recommended rt?

I would not want a Polk sub. SVS specialize in subs and make some of the best available.

 

[Pogre]

so today i had a look and the product is atleast 1 year old.i mean the manufacturing date of the yamaha avr is july 2019 and i got it this wednesday from the seller.

It isn't like food that has an expiration date! I would still think of it as a new AVR, provided it was sold as such.

 

[sand87]

I would not want a Polk sub. SVS specialize in subs and make some of the best available.

but is it ok to go for a center speaker of another company.say a qacoustic or elac?

 

[KEW]

How will staright mode make it better.Trying to understand better.

I'm not sure if this was the intent when ADTG suggested it to you, but pure direct or straight by-passes all tone control/processing. Consequently, it is a good trouble-shooting test - sometime a novice owner can unintentionally screw up settings on the AVR and this is a way to bypass all of that! If it sounded good in direct or straight mode, then it would be a matter of performing a reset to wipe any such settings.
See if you can borrow some other speakers from a friend that you know you like and see if your AVR "neuters" them! That way you will learn if it is actually the AVR or the speakers. I'm inclined to believe it is the speakers!

 

[Pogre]

but is it ok to go for a center speaker of another company.say a qacoustic or elac?

That can work, but I would want the front 3 to match so if you're staying with Polk I would get the matching center. If you watch a lot of movies and content in 5.1 you'll want the best center you can afford. If the S35 is larger than the S30 I would probably pick the 35. Definitely go somewhere else for your sub! SVS and XTZ are both good for subs. I don't know what all else you might have available I could suggest tho. SVS is great but can be pricey.

 

[sand87]

I'm not sure if this was the intent when ADTG suggested it to you, but pure direct or straight by-passes all tone control/processing. Consequently, it is a good trouble-shooting test - sometime a novice owner can unintentionally screw up settings on the AVR and this is a way to bypass all of that! If it sounded good in direct or straight mode, then it would be a matter of performing a reset to wipe any such settings.
See if you can borrow some other speakers from a friend that you know you like and see if your AVR "neuters" them! That way you will learn if it is actually the AVR or the speakers. I'm inclined to believe it is the speakers!

so by avr do you mean a faulty one

 

[KEW]

so by avr do you mean a faulty one

I'm not sure I follow what you mean, but testing speakers that you are familiar with as sounding good ill reveal if there is a problem with your AVR or with your speakers. Alternately, taking your speakers and connecting them to a different AVR will also indicate if teh problem is your AVR (being defective) or your speakers simply not being as good as you thought/hoped!

 

[Pogre]

so by avr do you mean a faulty one

He means you should try your speakers with a different AVR, that you know works correctly, to see if your speakers sound different. Maybe you could ask a friend to bring a receiver to your house to try it out? I think that'd be the best way to eliminate whether or not it's your AVR (I don't think it is). You could also take your speakers to a friend, but they will sound different in another room so it wouldn't be a good comparison.

 

[KEW]

agree with that but certainly not worse than my 2.1 philips PC speaker set up rt??i dont know how to describe it.I will let it burn in .lets see after some 100hrs or so

A well designed 2.1 PC setup (used as intended) can definitely sound better that a set of much more expensive, but poorly designed speaker. Unfortunately, Polk is a "hit or miss" company - some of their speakers are pretty good, but others are crap!
As for the 2.1 PC speakers, they save money by not being able to play very loud. Since the idea is you would have them on your desktop and you would be sitting fairly closely, inexpensive drivers can be used and the cabinet does not have to be as well braced because they are smaller and will not see the volume levels required to set off resonances!
As a more extreme example, a $20 pair of Sennheiser headphones will easily compete with most $400/pr speakers! Only having to produce quality sound within the "air pocket" of the headphone eliminates so many of the problems associated with producing a good speakers at a low cost!

 

[sand87]

A well designed 2.1 PC setup (used as intended) can definitely sound better that a set of much more expensive, but poorly designed speaker. Unfortunately, Polk is a "hit or miss" company - some of their speakers are pretty good, but others are crap!
As for the 2.1 PC speakers, they save money by not being able to play very loud. Since the idea is you would have them on your desktop and you would be sitting fairly closely, inexpensive drivers can be used and the cabinet does not have to be as well braced because they are smaller and will not see the volume levels required to set off resonances!
As a more extreme example, a $20 pair of Sennheiser headphones will easily compete with most $400/pr speakers! Only having to produce quality sound within the "air pocket" of the headphone eliminates so many of the problems associated with producing a good speakers at a low cost!

well i couldnt do an auditory testing of speakers and thats why i had to but based on reviews and advice.However i dont know if elac debut 6.2 would have sounded better than this but the polk S20 is like the speaker has been covered with some plastic

 

[highfigh]

Hi,
i purchased a yamaha rxv-685 from amazon which was amazon fulfilled plus prime delivery from a dealer in delhi.

I got it today but the yamaha box was sealed witha amazon prime label tape across as it didnt have the usual amaxon outer cardboard box.

The product looks fine but just wanted to know if theres anyway i can find out if it was returned by someone to amazon and the seller shipped it back to me via amazon or maybe its an opened box??

Regards,
Sandeep

By laws, in some places, used, returned and refurbished equipment is supposed to be sold as that and refurbs are supposed to be marked as such, often with a sticker on the back.

I don'

 

[lovinthehd]

no.i set it to small as the bass was going too boomy which it shudnt

Hard to know what those speakers should/shouldn't sound like but could be positioning or eq settings or other things that can cause such.

so today i had a look and the product is atleast 1 year old.i mean the manufacturing date of the yamaha avr is july 2019 and i got it this wednesday from the seller.

First review I looked at was from the fall of 2018 but is still a current model, so date of manufacture only means so much.