Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
@GO-NAD!

Thanks for posting that. There was so much wrong with that Mikovits video, I didn't know where to begin to debunk it. I'm glad to see someone else did that job.
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Spartan
Dr. Fauci is now in quarantine after being in contact with a White House staff member who tested positive for Covid-19. He will be 80 this year. Let's hope that he gets over it without any problem.

 
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AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Anyone gave a prediction as to when the SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine will actually be available for everyone in the US?
 
M

Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
It's above my pay grade, but this looks like a thorough debunking of the Mikovits video.

The idea that physicians are incorrectly diagnosing COVID-19 due to financial incentive is also ridiculous. Medicare sometimes bundles payments for some conditions (i.e. if you have a heart attack, medicare may pay XX for your treatment) – it’s possible the hospital could get paid $13,000 for your COVID-19 admission, but do you know what that’s based on? The fact that the average cost of a hospital admission for a respiratory condition is $13,297.
This one annoys me.

For one thing, proving a negative (i.e. that there are NOT any physicians incorrectly diagnosing COVID-19 due to financial incentives) is essentially impossible. The people promoting this need to provide evidence supporting the assertions. A wild accusation by itself does not create some sort of rebuttable assumption that the accusation is true.

Also, my wife does medical billing for a living for a large nonprofit organization with several hospitals in upstate New York, and she sees quite a few medicaid and medicare bills coming through for people diagnosed with COVID-19. As of a few days ago, the highest total amount she had seen for a patient diagnosed with COVID-19 was under $1,000. Granted, these were not critically ill patients, but it does debunk the idea that hospitals get an "automatic" payment of $13,000 if they diagnose a patient with COVID-19. It also debunks the idea that hospitals are rushing to admit anyone diagnosed with COVID-19 so they can rake in government cash. The bills are based on billing codes for specific tests and procedures, not a magic "COVID-19 $13,000" payment of some sort.
 
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AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
First, what is yours?
Haha. I'll say it will take 3 more years before there is a SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine for everyone in the USA.

But I sure hope I am 100% wrong and somehow it will only take 2 more years. :D
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Spartan
Haha. I'll say it will take 3 more years before there is a SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine for everyone in the USA.
That's too far away. If it takes that long, and this virus keeps coming back like the seasonal flu, we will get a worldwide financial depression like in1929.

I'm more optimistic, I predict that someone will have released one by Spring of 2021. There's also the possibility that another team will come with a more efficient and cheaper to make vaccine later on.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
That's too far away. If it takes that long, and this virus keeps coming back like the seasonal flu, we will get a worldwide financial depression like in1929.

I'm more optimistic, I predict that someone will have released one by Spring of 2021. There's also the possibility that another team will come with a more efficient and cheaper to make vaccine later on.
Just 10 more months?
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Spartan
Just 10 more months?

So you think the human trials will be successful and completed in about 7 months and then they manufacture the vaccines for another 3 moths?
The human trials would be successful and completed by early Spring. Would it really take 3 months for the manufacturing?
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
The human trials would be successful and completed by early Spring. Would it really take 3 months for the manufacturing?
Depends on how many vaccines we need (331 million vaccines?) and who decides which states get them first. :D

A manufacturer might produce 100 million doses of vaccines in one year.

But if they were to take a chance and start on the vaccines before it is actually approved, then it might be 3 months. If they don't manufacture the vaccine until they get final approval, then forget about 3 months.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
That's too far away. If it takes that long, and this virus keeps coming back like the seasonal flu, we will get a worldwide financial depression like in1929.

I'm more optimistic, I predict that someone will have released one by Spring of 2021. There's also the possibility that another team will come with a more efficient and cheaper to make vaccine later on.
Man I hate to say it but we're kind off already there for the depression.

Hopefully we figure out a way to mitigate the damage because too many lockdowns will just melt the economy not depress it and our medical will go bankrupt my sister's an RN up in Vegas she does travel nursing and the branch of hospitals she works at are already laying people off its getting that bad

Man I hope your right on the vaccine there s never been one for a coronavirus but TLS Guy is optimistic about the OXFORD groups chances so hopefully
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Spartan
I think it is in Switzerland where citizens are disciplined, protocols were followed and there was no ordered confinement. Schools weren't closed. Their statistics have been good so far. Extensive testing has been performed and is a key to better results.
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Spartan
Man I hate to say it but we're kind off already there for the depression.

Hopefully we figure out a way to mitigate the damage because too many lockdowns will just melt the economy not depress it and our medical will go bankrupt my sister's an RN up in Vegas she does travel nursing and the branch of hospitals she works at are already laying people off its getting that bad

Man I hope your right on the vaccine there s never been one for a coronavirus but TLS Guy is optimistic about the OXFORD groups chances so hopefully
I'm also optimistic about the OXFORD groups.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
SARS-COV-2 is the name of the virus.
COVID-19 is the name of the disease.

Like HIV is the name of the virus, and AIDS is the name of the syndrome.
You are back! Where did you vacation? How was it? ;) :cool:
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
I think it is in Switzerland where citizens are disciplined, protocols were followed and there was no ordered confinement. Schools weren't closed. Their statistics have been good so far. Extensive testing has been performed and is a key to better results.
Per
Cases/1M pop: Switzerland #18th; US #1
deaths/1M pop: Swit #15, US #13 lowest
tests/1M pop: Swit #26; US #34 highest
 
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