Subwoofer Decisions, money burning hole in my pocket!

[Tmmccloud]

Hello everyone, long time reader and forgot all about having an actual login here to ask questions directly but I would appreciate any feedback. Here is my setup. Right now I have JBL Studio 235c Center, and JBL 230 (pair) for L,R. My left and right rears are wall mounted Monoprice speakers (unsure model) and are about 2' behind and to sides of main listening positions.My sub-woofer is a single Klipsch SW350. I just upgraded to a Denon X2500H receiver. I think you all can see my weak point. So now I am looking to burn some more money. My initial thoughts were Atmos ceiling speakers but I feel like a sub-woofer upgrade would be more beneficial in my living room. The room is app. 20' x 25' open floor plan type with 10' ceilings where living, kitchen and dining are all in one however listening positions are all located within about 12' of the corner the sub-woofer is located in. Whats your thoughts? My budget is around $500 possibly up to $600 if its a amazing deal or what not. I was considering the SVS PB-1000 or HSU VTF-1 MRK3. When I look at the overall dimensions of the SVS compared to my current its .... confusing? ... how the SVS sub which is only slightly larger then my current sub would be that much better. At the higher side of the range I was considering the HSU VTF-2 MRK 5. Please let me know if I am missing a brand / model or any other recommendations you might have for me regarding the system. My only issue with the VTF-2 MRK 5 may be the WAF and her shooting me when she gets home to see it.. Cheers!

 

[ryanosaur]

The hsu vtf2 is probably the best bang for the buck in terms of all around quality.
Just do it, lock up all the guns in the gun safe and change the combination so you don't get shot.
Then sit down and enjoy a movie with great bass and see how her tune changes.

 

[lovinthehd]

Personally I'd think more about two of the VTF2 mk5s but wouldn't want to see your wife hurt you or doubling your budget The diameter of the driver is only part of the story with a sub (altho generally the more air it can move the better), the motor counts, too.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Well this is fun!
I’m a fan of better/bigger subs and Atmos. I think you should consider both, but do the sub/s first. The VTF3 is easily worth the 799 but I just saw the other day they were doin the MK2 for 849. I know that’s above what you said initially, but quality bass is an investment. I’d buy one mk2 and start saving for the second right away. This is not considering your waf though so... the big problem is the size of the room. I don’t know if they’re is one sub that could handle that room at 600 bucks. That’s a tall order. The Dayton sub1500 is only 200 bucks. You could get three of them and have potentially smoother response for 600. Or four sub1200 for the same price which I think might be the better bargain. However, it is my opinion that those Dayton’s, as good as they are qualify for the “for the price” category. For that money they’re probably the best thing going, but if you want better extension, more linear bass and higher output potential, I’d still try and steer you towards the “shoes” or Rythmik etc. Maybe start by selling one of these to the waf dept.

Rythmik Audio • Dual 15" servo subwoofer FV25HP

Makes an 1800 dollar HSU dual drive an easier sell maybe?

 

[Tmmccloud]

Well I spoke with the wife and she may be on board for dual smaller subs, aka not two vtf 2 but possibly 2 svs pb1000. But if not I'm thinking just the one vtf2. I never looked into Dayton subs I'll research them a bit.

 

[Paul DS]

Well I spoke with the wife and she may be on board for dual smaller subs, aka not two vtf 2 but possibly 2 svs pb1000. But if not I'm thinking just the one vtf2. I never looked into Dayton subs I'll research them a bit.

The Dayton subs are probably the biggest bang/quality for the money. I am running two Dayton 12" subs and they are excellent (in my opinion).

 

[CajunLB]

The RSL speedwoofer is only 400 a piece and gets good reviews. The RSL and SVS both have 10” drivers so I’m not sure which one is more powerful. That’s a very big space for 10”drivers to handle. Maybe close placement could help some.

 

[Tmmccloud]

The RSL speedwoofer is only 400 a piece and gets good reviews. The RSL and SVS both have 10” drivers so I’m not sure which one is more powerful. That’s a very big space for 10”drivers to handle. Maybe close placement could help some.

Ya I'm a bit limited on placement at sub(s) can only go to the right and left of the television on the same wall app. 7 ft off center of the television. If I can stretch my budget to the 600ish realm I may get that VTF2 but a friend just told me about the monoprice 10 and 12 subs, I just have a hard time placing that kind of dollar value on a monoprice branded product. Anyone have any experience with them particularly especially concerning customer service?

 

[lovinthehd]

Ya I'm a bit limited on placement at sub(s) can only go to the right and left of the television on the same wall app. 7 ft off center of the television. If I can stretch my budget to the 600ish realm I may get that VTF2 but a friend just told me about the monoprice 10 and 12 subs, I just have a hard time placing that kind of dollar value on a monoprice branded product. Anyone have any experience with them particularly especially concerning customer service?

There's Monoprice cheap subs then there's their Monolith line, quite a bit different. We have several Monolith sub reviews

Monoprice Monolith 15” THX Ultra Subwoofer Review

At last! It's here! Our review of Monoprice's monster subwoofer, the Monolith 15" THX Ultra! This 130 lb. beast might look like it's all muscle, but there's at least as much brains as there is brawn.

www.audioholics.com

Monoprice Monolith 10” THX Select and 12” THX Ultra Subwoofers Review

In this review, we look at two high-powered but affordable Monoprice subwoofers, the 10" THX Select and 12" THX Ultra. Continue reading to find out if your home theater room can handle these beasts.

www.audioholics.com

ps Sorry about the goofy way AH now uses links with the funky boxes, after I had to change the URL slightly I lost the box on the probably more important review for you....

 

[CajunLB]

Those monolith by monoprice subs are no joke. I’ve not heard one personality but have seen nothing but great reviews about them. That being said I have read that a few people have had the amp go out and they had to send the whole sub in for replacement whereas other companies let the owner just replace the amps. This is something to think about because it’s quiet a chore to box up a big heavy subwoofer. I’m sure they have very few failures but it’s something to think about.

 

[Tmmccloud]

So the wife is really against the larger VTF2 so around the size of the svs pb1000 any other recommendations. She gave the go ahead for dual pb1000s so don't wanna drop almost 1k on these if there is another option in the same pricing / size range.

 

[lovinthehd]

So the wife is really against the larger VTF2 so around the size of the svs pb1000 any other recommendations. She gave the go ahead for dual pb1000s so don't wanna drop almost 1k on these if there is another option in the same pricing / size range.

If she can handle dual PB1000s I'd think you should take that opportunity while she still feels that way (and hopefully doesn't change her mind somewhat when she sees two installed).

 

[Tmmccloud]

If she can handle dual PB1000s I'd think you should take that opportunity while she still feels that way (and hopefully doesn't change her mind somewhat when she sees two installed).

It may have helped my delivery of the news. Was kinda a "it's either one larger one or I will Have to get two smaller ones... Your choice." I just had to lead the witness is all!

 

[lovinthehd]

It may have helped my delivery of the news. Was kinda a "it's either one larger one or I will Have to get two smaller ones... Your choice." I just had to lead the witness is all!

Just makes me glad I'm single sometimes.....no sub limits

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

WOW! Pb1k’s would be such an easy sell to my wife. She might even sign on for six of them.
I’m going to mock up some cardboard fv18’s to help ease into my sales pitch. I should do the 25’s first, then when she sees the 18’s it won’t sting as bad. My cylinders are 40” so the reduced height might help too.

 

[Pogre]

A pair of PB16 Utras will take care of a nice chunk of pocket burning money...

 

[Tmmccloud]

WOW! Pb1k’s would be such an easy sell to my wife. She might even sign on for six of them.
I’m going to mock up some cardboard fv18’s to help ease into my sales pitch. I should do the 25’s first, then when she sees the 18’s it won’t sting as bad. My cylinders are 40” so the reduced height might help too.

We all gotta start somewhere. I get the 2x pb1ks and 12 months later I'll just go up a little to the 2ks and she will never realize it... Well maybe.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

We all gotta start somewhere. I get the 2x pb1ks and 12 months later I'll just go up a little to the 2ks and she will never realize it... Well maybe.

Yeah we sure do. I started out with a sealed 20” MB quart!

It can be a fun ride for sure. Btw, congrats. Hope I didn’t minimize your excitement. I was kinda just pointing out how much my wife has endured. We have 7.3.4 in the LR, 5.1 in two other rooms, 3 drum kits a piano, and so on...
Congrats.

 

[lovinthehd]

Yeah we sure do. I started out with a sealed 20” MB quart!

It can be a fun ride for sure. Btw, congrats. Hope I didn’t minimize your excitement. I was kinda just pointing out how much my wife has endured. We have 7.3.4 in the LR, 5.1 in two other rooms, 3 drum kits a piano, and so on...
Congrats.

A 20" MB Quart?

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

A 20" MB Quart?

Holy $hit. I should read before I hit the button...
10” MBquart.