2 issues I need some advice on, thanks.

[JCanada]

The advice I have received in the past has been very helpful, so I turn to you guys once again. I have an Onkyo TX-RZ 820, and a Yamaha AS 801. I use the Onkyo AV receiver for movies, and the Yamaha for 2 channel music listening. I have one set of towers connected to the Onkyo, and another set of towers connected to the Yamaha. I have just purchased 2 subs, and I am wondering how I can connect both subs to both amplifiers, and listen to 2 subs when I have the Onkyo on, and listen to 2 subs when I have the Yamaha on. Is this possible? Next issue is about storage. I received another Yamaha AS 801 as a gift, so I put it away after I listened to it only twice. Do I need to be worried if it sits in my closet? I eagerly await some help here. Thanks.

 

[lovinthehd]

Why the separation of systems? Would the subs work equally well with both units/speakers I wonder (even something basic like the gain setting let alone how positioned etc..).

 

[Pogre]

Are you talking about 2 different rooms or something? I'm a little confused on your setup.

 

[JCanada]

Are you talking about 2 different rooms or something? I'm a little confused on your setup.

Hi. No, same room. 4 tower speakers, 2 sub woofers. 2 Amps. 2 towers connected to the Yamaha, 2 towers connected to the Onkyo. I like using 2 subs. I use my TV and streaming device as my source components. Optical cable from the TV goes to the Yamaha. Streaming device is connected to the TV and HDMI cable to the Onkyo. Set up works well when I want to go back and fourth between the Yamaha and the Onkyo, while still watching my TV. The Onkyo has connections for 2 subs, but the Yamaha does not. I would like to have 2 subs working regardless of what amp I am listening too. When I listen to the Yamaha, I want the 2 subs working. When I listen to the Onkyo, I want 2 subs working. How can I go back and fourth from amp to amp without disconnecting the sub cables? I hope I clarified my listening situation. I await some suggestions.

 

[JCanada]

Why the separation of systems? Would the subs work equally well with both units/speakers I wonder (even something basic like the gain setting let alone how positioned etc..).

Hi. It is one system, in the same room. I just like using 2 amps, and 4 tower speakers.
4 tower speakers, 2 sub woofers. 2 Amps. 2 towers connected to the Yamaha, 2 towers connected to the Onkyo. I like using 2 subs. I use my TV and streaming device as my source components. Optical cable from the TV goes to the Yamaha. Streaming device is connected to the TV and HDMI cable to the Onkyo. Set up works well when I want to go back and fourth between the Yamaha and the Onkyo, while still watching my TV. The Onkyo has connections for 2 subs, but the Yamaha does not. I would like to have 2 subs working regardless of what amp I am listening too. When I listen to the Yamaha, I want the 2 subs working. When I listen to the Onkyo, I want 2 subs working. How can I go back and fourth from amp to amp without disconnecting the sub cables? I hope I clarified my listening situation. I await some suggestions.

 

[NINaudio]

Your other thread asking the same question is unnecessary.

Still not sure why you need to have two entirely different setups in the same room. Do you sit in different spots when listening to music versus watching movies?

Maybe a picture will help?

 

[NINaudio]

The only thing off the top of my head that might work is some sort of RCA switch box.

 

[Grandzoltar]

You could use 3 of these plus 4 subwoofer cables

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-1-Male-2-Female-RCA-Y-Adapter/dp/B01D5H8RE0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=subwoofer+splitter&qid=1576147734&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNjZIUUcxTkQ1TTJFJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDE3MTUwMzlNSVY3TVJXR1ZTRyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTg2MzA5UVNFS0taRlJXOEgmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

One for your Yamaha because it needs 2 sub outs. Then 1 for each sub because you need 2 lfe inputs for 2 different sources. I wouldn’t play both receivers at the same time and there may be some difficulty calibrating the signal split Yamaha unless they are close together or you use a mini DSP. As unorthodox as it may be this will work.

 

[Swerd]

I have an Onkyo TX-RZ 820, and a Yamaha AS 801. I use the Onkyo AV receiver for movies, and the Yamaha for 2 channel music listening.I have one set of towers connected to the Onkyo, and another set of towers connected to the Yamaha.

I have just purchased 2 subs, and I am wondering how I can connect both subs to both amplifiers, and listen to 2 subs when I have the Onkyo on, and listen to 2 subs when I have the Yamaha on. Is this possible?

I also have trouble understanding why you use such a set-up. With 4 tower speakers and all the associated electronic devices, it must be awkward to walk around that room, as well as awkward to use them.

Why not use the Onkyo TX-RZ 820 for both movies and 2 channel music? Its rated at 130 watts/channel, and the Yamaha A-S801 is rated at 100 watts/channel. They are essentially similar to each other in power. I highly doubt if they generate audibly different sounds. Frankly, it's a myth that AVRs are good only for movies, and 2-channel receivers or integrated amps are better for music. An untrue myth.

What are your tower speakers? Do you have different speakers for movies and for music? Or are both pairs the same make and model? Why not use one pair of towers. You could sell the other pair.

If you simplify your arrangement, hooking up and using both sub woofers becomes rather simple.

Next issue is about storage. I received another Yamaha AS 801 as a gift, so I put it away after I listened to it only twice. Do I need to be worried if it sits in my closet? I eagerly await some help here.

There should be no problem with storing an integrated amp, or other electronic music or home theater devices. Remember to remove the batteries from the remote control.

Better yet, sell one of those Yamahas, or exchange it. If you simplify things, as I suggested above, you could sell both of them.

 

[lovinthehd]

Hi. It is one system, in the same room. I just like using 2 amps, and 4 tower speakers.
4 tower speakers, 2 sub woofers. 2 Amps. 2 towers connected to the Yamaha, 2 towers connected to the Onkyo. I like using 2 subs. I use my TV and streaming device as my source components. Optical cable from the TV goes to the Yamaha. Streaming device is connected to the TV and HDMI cable to the Onkyo. Set up works well when I want to go back and fourth between the Yamaha and the Onkyo, while still watching my TV. The Onkyo has connections for 2 subs, but the Yamaha does not. I would like to have 2 subs working regardless of what amp I am listening too. When I listen to the Yamaha, I want the 2 subs working. When I listen to the Onkyo, I want 2 subs working. How can I go back and fourth from amp to amp without disconnecting the sub cables? I hope I clarified my listening situation. I await some suggestions.

One room perhaps but certainly sounds like two systems. Can't imagine bothering with such complexity. The only thing that I think might work is some sort of switch box as suggested, I wouldn't do a full time connection with splitters, tho (well, except as output on the Yamaha since it only came with one pre-out). You still may end up having to tweak settings to play equally well in both.....do you now or do you merely exchange cable sets?

 

[JCanada]

Thanks for the reply. I know my system is complex, but I had the 4 towers, the 2 subs, and the 2 amps, (just sitting), so I wanted to put them to use. Yes, these are 2 systems. A bit extravagant. Complex, yes. Now, I only use the 2 subs when they are connected to the Onkyo, the subs are used only when the Onkyo is on. When I use the Yamaha, it plays without the subs. I was thinking some type of multiple RCA in, multiple RCA out splitter-switch box would be an option. Also, since the Yamaha only has one sub out, the splitter-switch box would have to send one single signal to the 2 subs. What do you think?

 

[lovinthehd]

Thanks for the reply. I know my system is complex, but I had the 4 towers, the 2 subs, and the 2 amps, (just sitting), so I wanted to put them to use. Yes, these are 2 systems. A bit extravagant. Complex, yes. Now, I only use the 2 subs when they are connected to the Onkyo, the subs are used only when the Onkyo is on. When I use the Yamaha, it plays without the subs. I was thinking some type of multiple RCA in, multiple RCA out splitter-switch box would be an option. Also, since the Yamaha only has one sub out, the splitter-switch box would have to send one single signal to the 2 subs. What do you think?

You're overthinking the splitting of the signal for subs out of the Yamaha, as I mentioned you could simply leave a splitter cable hanging there, same as most avrs with dual pre-outs (only a few avrs actually can handle separate level/delay for two subs, most are just internal splitters). I've never seen such a switch box, but then I've not needed one....but found this pretty quick https://www.amazon.com/Panlong-Switcher-Composite-Selector-Consoles/dp/B00KXVBB3Q?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-ffab-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00KXVBB3Q

 

[JCanada]

Your other thread asking the same question is unnecessary.

Still not sure why you need to have two entirely different setups in the same room. Do you sit in different spots when listening to music versus watching movies?

Maybe a picture will help?

No, same room, same listening position. Just an abundance of equipment that was sitting, and I decided to put it use. 2 amps, 4 towers, 2 subs. Technically it might be 2 systems. I enjoy the extravagance of the setup. Not really needed, but I like using the extra amp and speakers.

 

[lovinthehd]

You do realize we can all see your replies, so no need to repeat yourself....

 

[2channel lover]

Thanks for the reply. I know my system is complex, but I had the 4 towers, the 2 subs, and the 2 amps, (just sitting), so I wanted to put them to use. Yes, these are 2 systems. A bit extravagant. Complex, yes. Now, I only use the 2 subs when they are connected to the Onkyo, the subs are used only when the Onkyo is on. When I use the Yamaha, it plays without the subs. I was thinking some type of multiple RCA in, multiple RCA out splitter-switch box would be an option. Also, since the Yamaha only has one sub out, the splitter-switch box would have to send one single signal to the 2 subs. What do you think?

I've read thru the previous 11 posts.

Extravagant is a nice way of saying it...overkill might be a good adjective to describe it. My advice...ditch one of the AVRs, there's nothing to gain having one for movies and another for 2 channel.

I assume the movie connection is multi-ch so you could connect all 4 towers and both subs and have a serious multi-channel music set up.

 

[JCanada]

I also have trouble understanding why you use such a set-up. With 4 tower speakers and all the associated electronic devices, it must be awkward to walk around that room, as well as awkward to use them.

Why not use the Onkyo TX-RZ 820 for both movies and 2 channel music? Its rated at 130 watts/channel, and the Yamaha A-S801 is rated at 100 watts/channel. They are essentially similar to each other in power. I highly doubt if they generate audibly different sounds. Frankly, it's a myth that AVRs are good only for movies, and 2-channel receivers or integrated amps are better for music. An untrue myth.

What are your tower speakers? Do you have different speakers for movies and for music? Or are both pairs the same make and model? Why not use one pair of towers. You could sell the other pair.

If you simplify your arrangement, hooking up and using both sub woofers becomes rather simple.
There should be no problem with storing an integrated amp, or other electronic music or home theater devices. Remember to remove the batteries from the remote control.

Better yet, sell one of those Yamahas, or exchange it. If you simplify things, as I suggested above, you could sell both of them.

Hi. I have a pair of Fluance towers connected to the Onkyo, and a pair of Wharfedales connected to the Yamaha. Yes, walking and maneuvering around this system is sometimes challenging. I do not use 2 amps because of the power differential, I do it just for the sake of putting the equipment to use. You are right though, the 2 channel sound difference between the 2 amps and speaker sets is not very significant, just slight. (I hope this doesn't offend the accomplished audiophiles out there with acute hearing). I got a few switcher box and RCS splitter cable suggestions, but when I took a look at some of these boxes, it was confusing.

 

[JCanada]

You're overthinking the splitting of the signal for subs out of the Yamaha, as I mentioned you could simply leave a splitter cable hanging there, same as most avrs with dual pre-outs (only a few avrs actually can handle separate level/delay for two subs, most are just internal splitters). I've never seen such a switch box, but then I've not needed one....but found this pretty quick https://www.amazon.com/Panlong-Switcher-Composite-Selector-Consoles/dp/B00KXVBB3Q?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-ffab-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00KXVBB3Q

Hello again. Thanks for the suggestion. I checked out this splitter box. it is a bit confusing. So, 2 LFE cables out of the Onkyo, and 2 cables into the splitter? One LFE cable out of the Yamaha, or a 1 male to 2 male cable, and then into the splitter box? T his box only has 2 audio out RCA ports, so do I send one LFE out to one sub, then one LFE out to another sub? Does the fact that I will not use the video ports on the box matter? I never used this type of box before.

 

[JCanada]

You do realize we can all see your replies, so no need to repeat yourself....

I do now. Sorry for the repetition. Much appreciated.

 

[lovinthehd]

Hello again. Thanks for the suggestion. I checked out this splitter box. it is a bit confusing. So, 2 LFE cables out of the Onkyo, and 2 cables into the splitter? One LFE cable out of the Yamaha, or a 1 male to 2 male cable, and then into the splitter box? T his box only has 2 audio out RCA ports, so do I send one LFE out to one sub, then one LFE out to another sub? Does the fact that I will not use the video ports on the box matter? I never used this type of box before.

LOL had me looking for a dual output solution (a bit groggy today). RCAs from the preouts of your avr to input 1, rcas from pre-outs of your Yamaha splitter cable to input 2, then use one rca output to one sub, one to the other....and I wouldn't worry about unused video options.

 

[JCanada]

LOL had me looking for a dual output solution (a bit groggy today). RCAs from the preouts of your avr to input 1, rcas from pre-outs of your Yamaha splitter cable to input 2, then use one rca output to one sub, one to the other....and I wouldn't worry about unused video options.

So one LFE cable from the Onkyo to one RCA input of the splitter box, ( does it matter if the RCA input is is L or R?) One LFE cable from the Yamaha to the RCA input of the splitter box (does it matter if the RCA input is L or R?) Then, from the 2 RCA outputs marked L and R, one LFE out to one sub, and another LFE out to another sub. Correct? I hope I understood correctly.