Integration of amps w/AVR

[William Lemmerhirt]

Pssst, Bill... um...
...
Its still Autumn.

...
Winter is coming!!!

NOOOOO I refuse to believe it!!!

 

[ryanosaur]

NOOOOO I refuse to believe it!!!

Fuh
King
Awesome.

 

[Pogre]

I live for winter here. The weather is awesome this time of year in Arizona.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

I live for winter here. The weather is awesome this time of year in Arizona.

Bet you don’t miss PA this time a year?

 

[Pogre]

Bet you don’t miss PA this time a year?

Yes and no. Snow really is pretty cool. For about a day...

 

[Old Onkyo]

So does this make sense?
Sometimes when listening to music I want it to “hit harder” not play louder.

 

[lovinthehd]

So does this make sense?
Sometimes when listening to music I want it to “hit harder” not play louder.

Maybe you need more dynamic speakers? Maybe just would prefer a different eq?

 

[Old Onkyo]

Maybe you need more dynamic speakers? Maybe just would prefer a different eq?

Eq? Are you talking about a graphic equalizer?

 

[lovinthehd]

Eq? Are you talking about a graphic equalizer?

No, not particularly a graphic eq....that's older tech than current eq tech. Just meant maybe you'd like certain parts of the spectrum emphasized; this isn't unusual at all especially at lower volume levels, reason why loudness contours have been around....does your avr have such and do you use it?

 

[Pogre]

So does this make sense?
Sometimes when listening to music I want it to “hit harder” not play louder.

I have that same experience with B&W speakers. They always seem to be lacking just a little... something.

 

[SPLaddict90]

in the past I have gotten speakers to "hit Harder" by adjusting the slope on the crossover points, and eq, messing around in the 200-500hz area on eq . this is where your mid bass will be affected. this was from my personal experience though.

 

[Pogre]

in the past I have gotten speakers to "hit Harder" by adjusting the slope on the crossover points, and eq, messing around in the 200-500hz area on eq . this is where your mid bass will be affected. this was from my personal experience though.

I think the infamous "BBC dip" in the 1k to 5k frequency range is baked into some of B&W's speakers. Their top tier stuff is pretty amazing and have knocked my socks off but their entry to mid level offerings I've heard lack some impact in that range. I know when I replaced my older B&W DM 560s ('96-'98) it was like getting glasses for my ears.

 

[Old Onkyo]

in the past I have gotten speakers to "hit Harder" by adjusting the slope on the crossover points, and eq, messing around in the 200-500hz area on eq . this is where your mid bass will be affected. this was from my personal experience though.

How do I do this?

 

[Alex2507]

How do I do this?

In the manual it's probably listed under 'How to Blow Up Your Rec'r'.

 

[SPLaddict90]

In the manual it's probably listed under 'How to Blow Up Your Rec'r'.

why would adjusting this damage the receivers? do the receivers not have adjustable crossover slopes? real question as I currently do not have one
my current home audio set up is a 100w 2 channel fosi amp and a powered subwoofer running through a Dayton audio dsp so I have full control over crossover slopes and eq for every frequency band. so its great for music but as im going to surround sound is why I joined recently! so im learning too.

 

[Alex2507]

why would adjusting this damage the receivers? do the receivers not have adjustable crossover slopes? real question as I currently do not have one
my current home audio set up is a 100w 2 channel fosi amp and a powered subwoofer running through a Dayton audio dsp so I have full control over crossover slopes and eq for every frequency band. so its great for music but as im going to surround sound is why I joined recently! so im learning too.

No adjustable slopes.

If you bump up the bass/mid bass on a speaker that is already dipping low in impedance with maybe not so great a phase angle, you suck up a lot of watts fast. Getting a speaker to 'hit harder' really just means turning it up louder. When you hone in on that 200-500 Hz range, there's already a lot going on and turning that up in particular uses more juice than turning up a frequency range that has less going on.

... AND ... using an EQ for 'gains' is generally viewed as a no-no.

 

[SPLaddict90]

No adjustable slopes.

If you bump up the bass/mid bass on a speaker that is already dipping low in impedance with maybe not so great a phase angle, you suck up a lot of watts fast. Getting a speaker to 'hit harder' really just means turning it up louder. When you hone in on that 200-500 Hz range, there's already a lot going on and turning that up in particular uses more juice than turning up a frequency range that has less going on.

... AND ... using an EQ for 'gains' is generally viewed as a no-no.

ahhh. Gotcha so no adjustable slopes gotcha as far as eq I personally cut not Boost, I’m also running everything through amplifiers so I have my gain overlap set on the amp so even with a 3db boost i would never clip a speaker