Perfect Sound Explained

Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
This guy is an audio engineer and music producer. He has a lot of videos explaining different types of speakers, enclosures and audio equipment in general. I think he does a pretty good job explaining a flat response vs the way we hear things.

 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
One point he should have made is that just because our hearing isn't linear doesn't mean we hear inaccurately. You definitely do not want to compensate the system in any way for our non-uniform hearing response. Audiology is definitely a neglected science by audio enthusiasts, but he didn't even really scratch the surface about the complexity and phenomenal nature of the way we hear. Maybe Audioholics should produce some youtube videos that digs into this stuff...
 
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Erod

Audioholic
Interesting video.

Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a Dirac, ARC, or Audyssey that could interactively test our individual hearing before it applied curves to the measurements it took from our rooms?
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
Interesting video.

Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a Dirac, ARC, or Audyssey that could interactively test our individual hearing before it applied curves to the measurements it took from our rooms?
There is. If you have an extra 60k to spare.
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
Interesting video.

Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a Dirac, ARC, or Audyssey that could interactively test our individual hearing before it applied curves to the measurements it took from our rooms?
But one more point is that you don't want to compensate for the way you hear. Your brain already does that. If you hear anything outside of a neutral response, you will hear it for what it is: unnatural.
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
This seems intellectually masturbatory in the sense that we want our gear to reproduce the production of a recorded event faithfully... if the studio monitors are respectable, and your speakers are respectable, and both are relatively neutral-flat-accurate... than the only things that change... the variables... are our ears and our rooms. These are beyond our control to some extent. Of course, our rooms can be tinkered with to varying degrees of success... but not our ear-brains.
Though educational from a "this is how our ears kinda work" way, it doesn't change much in terms of our M.O. If anything, it reinforces the fact that we should quest for gear that behaves well across the FR spectrum and does not color the reproduced sound in any way.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
This guy is an audio engineer and music producer. He has a lot of videos explaining different types of speakers, enclosures and audio equipment in general. I think he does a pretty good job explaining a flat response vs the way we hear things.

In this particular video, he's basic saying the same things Chris K (Audyssey) has been telling us Audyssey users, that DEQ is good.:D Also, flat FR is good, as it is from there we can make adjustments/EQ to suit out taste.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
This seems intellectually masturbatory in the sense that we want our gear to reproduce the production of a recorded event faithfully... if the studio monitors are respectable, and your speakers are respectable, and both are relatively neutral-flat-accurate... than the only things that change... the variables... are our ears and our rooms. These are beyond our control to some extent. Of course, our rooms can be tinkered with to varying degrees of success... but not our ear-brains.
Though educational from a "this is how our ears kinda work" way, it doesn't change much in terms of our M.O. If anything, it reinforces the fact that we should quest for gear that behaves well across the FR spectrum and does not color the reproduced sound in any way.
Well said, electronic audio gear should aim for "flat" response, regardless of our ears/brains.:D:D Any well intended meddling should be left to the individual owners.
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
Well said, electronic audio gear should aim for "flat" response, regardless of our ears/brains.:D:D Any well intended meddling should be left to the individual owners.
Yeah! And don’t forget the cables soaked in “oil” lol.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
One point he should have made is that just because our hearing isn't linear doesn't mean we hear inaccurately. You definitely do not want to compensate the system in any way for our non-uniform hearing response. Audiology is definitely a neglected science by audio enthusiasts, but he didn't even really scratch the surface about the complexity and phenomenal nature of the way we hear. Maybe Audioholics should produce some youtube videos that digs into this stuff...
I wonder why component makers, excluding speakers, most do try to get a ruler flat response. Why would speakers be different? ;)
 
davidscott

davidscott

Audioholic Ninja
Angel Dust - it also makes the cables sound better.
 

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