Perfect Sound Explained

[Pogre]

This guy is an audio engineer and music producer. He has a lot of videos explaining different types of speakers, enclosures and audio equipment in general. I think he does a pretty good job explaining a flat response vs the way we hear things.

 

[shadyJ]

One point he should have made is that just because our hearing isn't linear doesn't mean we hear inaccurately. You definitely do not want to compensate the system in any way for our non-uniform hearing response. Audiology is definitely a neglected science by audio enthusiasts, but he didn't even really scratch the surface about the complexity and phenomenal nature of the way we hear. Maybe Audioholics should produce some youtube videos that digs into this stuff...

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Did he say +/- 6dB frequency response is good?

 

[killdozzer]

You definitely do not want to compensate the system in any way for our non-uniform hearing response.

Don't we do exactly that every time we want to compensate for this?:

 

[Erod]

Interesting video.

Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a Dirac, ARC, or Audyssey that could interactively test our individual hearing before it applied curves to the measurements it took from our rooms?

 

[shadyJ]

Interesting video.

Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a Dirac, ARC, or Audyssey that could interactively test our individual hearing before it applied curves to the measurements it took from our rooms?

There is. If you have an extra 60k to spare.

 

[shadyJ]

Interesting video.

Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a Dirac, ARC, or Audyssey that could interactively test our individual hearing before it applied curves to the measurements it took from our rooms?

But one more point is that you don't want to compensate for the way you hear. Your brain already does that. If you hear anything outside of a neutral response, you will hear it for what it is: unnatural.

 

[ryanosaur]

This seems intellectually masturbatory in the sense that we want our gear to reproduce the production of a recorded event faithfully... if the studio monitors are respectable, and your speakers are respectable, and both are relatively neutral-flat-accurate... than the only things that change... the variables... are our ears and our rooms. These are beyond our control to some extent. Of course, our rooms can be tinkered with to varying degrees of success... but not our ear-brains.
Though educational from a "this is how our ears kinda work" way, it doesn't change much in terms of our M.O. If anything, it reinforces the fact that we should quest for gear that behaves well across the FR spectrum and does not color the reproduced sound in any way.

 

[PENG]

This guy is an audio engineer and music producer. He has a lot of videos explaining different types of speakers, enclosures and audio equipment in general. I think he does a pretty good job explaining a flat response vs the way we hear things.

In this particular video, he's basic saying the same things Chris K (Audyssey) has been telling us Audyssey users, that DEQ is good. Also, flat FR is good, as it is from there we can make adjustments/EQ to suit out taste.

 

[PENG]

This seems intellectually masturbatory in the sense that we want our gear to reproduce the production of a recorded event faithfully... if the studio monitors are respectable, and your speakers are respectable, and both are relatively neutral-flat-accurate... than the only things that change... the variables... are our ears and our rooms. These are beyond our control to some extent. Of course, our rooms can be tinkered with to varying degrees of success... but not our ear-brains.
Though educational from a "this is how our ears kinda work" way, it doesn't change much in terms of our M.O. If anything, it reinforces the fact that we should quest for gear that behaves well across the FR spectrum and does not color the reproduced sound in any way.

Well said, electronic audio gear should aim for "flat" response, regardless of our ears/brains. Any well intended meddling should be left to the individual owners.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Well said, electronic audio gear should aim for "flat" response, regardless of our ears/brains. Any well intended meddling should be left to the individual owners.

Yeah! And don’t forget the cables soaked in “oil” lol.

 

[Pogre]

Yeah! And don’t forget the cables soaked in “oil” lol.

That only works when you freeze them.

 

[ryanosaur]

That only works when you freeze them.

...in comet dust.

 

[mtrycrafts]

One point he should have made is that just because our hearing isn't linear doesn't mean we hear inaccurately. You definitely do not want to compensate the system in any way for our non-uniform hearing response. Audiology is definitely a neglected science by audio enthusiasts, but he didn't even really scratch the surface about the complexity and phenomenal nature of the way we hear. Maybe Audioholics should produce some youtube videos that digs into this stuff...

I wonder why component makers, excluding speakers, most do try to get a ruler flat response. Why would speakers be different?

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yeah! And don’t forget the cables soaked in “oil” lol.

You mean its FR is not ruler flat?

 

[mtrycrafts]

...in comet dust.

Or is it Pixie dust? Maybe less expensive.

 

[ryanosaur]

Or is it Pixie dust? Maybe less expensive.

pixie dust is too easy to come by!

 

[davidscott]

Angel Dust - it also makes the cables sound better.

 

[Pogre]

pixie dust is too easy to come by!

This is still my favorite snake oil site. Machina Dynamica brilliant pebbles. Doesn't get much better than this!

They work on cables too!

 

[lovinthehd]

This is still my favorite snake oil site. Machina Dynamica brilliant pebbles. Doesn't get much better than this!

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They work on cables too!

Oh but Ted's dots are so much easier to stick on things like cartridges, walls, speakers, cables....