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[Richard LaForte]

I have recently purchased the klipsch rp 8000 speakers and I am pretty pleased with the sound . i had already had a denon avr 640 h that puts out 75 wts per channel when i listen in 2 ch music, i use the system for mainly music and sometimes movies-- it seems to be loud enough, but would i gain a better quality sound with a better receiver---
the room is approx 15 x 20 and I sit approx 13 ft from tv and sound system
what receiver would further make the sound better-- I only need a 5,1 reciever
thanks--

 

[Pogre]

If it's loud enough and doesn't break up or distort more power wont make much difference in sq. Your speakers are very sensitive at 98 dB so they shouldn't need a ton of power to get good and loud.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

If it's loud enough and doesn't break up or distort more power wont make much difference in sq. Your speakers are very sensitive at 98 dB so they shouldn't need a ton of power to get good and loud.

Agreed, although those dB specs are pretty dubious.
Also, what’s the rest of the system? If not in use subwoofer would help a lot.

 

[ryanosaur]

IIRC, the actual sensitivity tested out closer to 92dB per Shady’s review.

 

[Bucknekked]

I can second the opinions that upgrading won't change your sound. I had an older model Denon and swapped it out for a much newer, much more powerful one when I did some other changes. I didn't swap it to improve the sound, I swapped it for other reasons. Other than the volume knob is on a different number to give me the listening volume I like, there's pretty much no discernable difference in sound. This is one of the most common upgrade complaints we see on the forum. Somebody goes out and buys a new amp/avr and finds out it sounds exactly the same even though its rated at more wattage per channel. Very common phenomenon.

Just ask. We can find many ways to spend your upgrade money that will actually produce audible results. No problem.

 

[ryanosaur]

Yes, Buck!

Sound Quality is speakers: the individual drivers, crossovers, box design, build quality, tuning, and how all of that interacts with the room they are in.

Perhaps the only time the electronics comes into play is if you are switching from a $150 receiver to a $1000 receiver. *shrugs

 

[Alex2507]

would i gain a better quality sound with a better receiver---

You would be able to go louder without distortion ... that's a kind of better.

 

[ryanosaur]

You would be able to go louder without distortion ... that's a kind of better.

That's almost worth a Rainbow, Alex!

 

[Alex2507]

That's almost worth a Rainbow, Alex!

Hey, that's a great idea for a tattoo.
That way everybody would know what an optimist I am.
'Cause everyone knows rainbows mean optimism.

 

[Richard LaForte]

Agreed, although those dB specs are pretty dubious.
Also, what’s the rest of the system? If not in use subwoofer would help a lot.

I have a polk psw 505 , more than enough for bass, I am not looking for just power but quality of sound , would getting a better reciever produce a better tone

 

[Kvn_Walker]

Odd are good you won't notice any great sound improvement replacing your receiver. Is it possible? Yes, but you hit diminishing returns faster on amplifiers than most other equipment, and Denon is a reputable quality brand already. Do you want better or do you just want different? Then the question becomes... "how much are you willing to spend?"

More power would be fine if you are playing loud and hit distortion frequently. If you aren't reaching those levels, then you're fine with that you have.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

I have a polk psw 505 , more than enough for bass, I am not looking for just power but quality of sound , would getting a better reciever produce a better tone

The thing that might give you a better tone from a different receiver would be the auto EQ feature. Audyssey, ypao, and mcacc being the most popular. They do however use different approaches, and mostly give different results as such. If you use direct/pure direct they will sound the same.
For the 505, I have a lot of experience with that sub. While it does put out enough power for some people and their rooms, I’ve found that it’s not very articulate, and loses output much too high(about 25hz in my room). I’ve also found it to not sound very good up in the 80-120hz range. IMO, upgrading that would give “a better tone” that you’re looking for.

It’s kind of a tricky concept, but bass is much more than just output. The sound should remain linear(true to the signal) and controlled
(well damped without ringing and overhang). IMO, said sub should also be able to reach down to 20hz. While the last point is arguable, there are many fantastic soundtracks that go low enough to make it worthwhile.
I understand why you’d be reticent to consider a new sub/s, but once you know, you can never go back.

 

[Pogre]

I have a polk psw 505 , more than enough for bass, I am not looking for just power but quality of sound , would getting a better reciever produce a better tone

Okay, it isn't about having enough bass so much as good, quality bass. Polk isn't known for their subs. I think you will find a much bigger improvement in quality of sound upgrading that sub.

 

[Richard LaForte]

I can second the opinions that upgrading won't change your sound. I had an older model Denon and swapped it out for a much newer, much more powerful one when I did some other changes. I didn't swap it to improve the sound, I swapped it for other reasons. Other than the volume knob is on a different number to give me the listening volume I like, there's pretty much no discernable difference in sound. This is one of the most common upgrade complaints we see on the forum. Somebody goes out and buys a new amp/avr and finds out it sounds exactly the same even though its rated at more wattage per channel. Very common phenomenon.

Just ask. We can find many ways to spend your upgrade money that will actually produce audible results. No problem.

thanks for the reply , that was the question i needed an answer to, i am never satisfied even though it sounds good for a relatively inexpensive system

 

[Richard LaForte]

The thing that might give you a better tone from a different receiver would be the auto EQ feature. Audyssey, ypao, and mcacc being the most popular. They do however use different approaches, and mostly give different results as such. If you use direct/pure direct they will sound the same.
For the 505, I have a lot of experience with that sub. While it does put out enough power for some people and their rooms, I’ve found that it’s not very articulate, and loses output much too high(about 25hz in my room). I’ve also found it to not sound very good up in the 80-120hz range. IMO, upgrading that would give “a better tone” that you’re looking for.

It’s kind of a tricky concept, but bass is much more than just output. The sound should remain linear(true to the signal) and controlled
(well damped without ringing and overhang). IMO, said sub should also be able to reach down to 20hz. While the last point is arguable, there are many fantastic soundtracks that go low enough to make it worthwhile.
I understand why you’d be reticent to consider a new sub/s, but once you know, you can never go back.

thanks for your feedback--
i will consider because all i know is that i love music----

 

[Pogre]

thanks for your feedback--
i will consider because all i know is that i love music----

After upgrading my speakers, upgrading my subs had the most impact as far as improving my sound quality. Like, by a lot! A lot of folks underestimate how much a good quality sub can clean up your entire system. Dirty, uncontrolled bass has a way of dragging everything else down. Clean bass is very underrated.

My new subs exceeded my expectations. Like Bill said above, once you know you don't go back. I truly believe you'll be in for a nice surprise if you decide to go that route.

 

[Richard LaForte]

I can second the opinions that upgrading won't change your sound. I had an older model Denon and swapped it out for a much newer, much more powerful one when I did some other changes. I didn't swap it to improve the sound, I swapped it for other reasons. Other than the volume knob is on a different number to give me the listening volume I like, there's pretty much no discernable difference in sound. This is one of the most common upgrade complaints we see on the forum. Somebody goes out and buys a new amp/avr and finds out it sounds exactly the same even though its rated at more wattage per channel. Very common phenomenon.

Just ask. We can find many ways to spend your upgrade money that will actually produce audible results. No problem.

thanks for your info
Rich

 

[Richard LaForte]

The thing that might give you a better tone from a different receiver would be the auto EQ feature. Audyssey, ypao, and mcacc being the most popular. They do however use different approaches, and mostly give different results as such. If you use direct/pure direct they will sound the same.
For the 505, I have a lot of experience with that sub. While it does put out enough power for some people and their rooms, I’ve found that it’s not very articulate, and loses output much too high(about 25hz in my room). I’ve also found it to not sound very good up in the 80-120hz range. IMO, upgrading that would give “a better tone” that you’re looking for.

It’s kind of a tricky concept, but bass is much more than just output. The sound should remain linear(true to the signal) and controlled
(well damped without ringing and overhang). IMO, said sub should also be able to reach down to 20hz. While the last point is arguable, there are many fantastic soundtracks that go low enough to make it worthwhile.
I understand why you’d be reticent to consider a new sub/s, but once you know, you can never go back.

thanks wil ,

its seems you know much more than I -
with my klipsch I keep the setting at small speakers and allow the subwoofer to get the bass-- I understand your point but I am not a fan of a loud booming base and the klipsch are pretty good with base even without the sub-- they seem like pretty good speakers for the amount that I wanted to spend , but I am always looking to enhance the music- they play lound without distorting-
thanks for your info

 

[Pogre]

thanks wil ,

its seems you know much more than I -
with my klipsch I keep the setting at small speakers and allow the subwoofer to get the bass-- I understand your point but I am not a fan of a loud booming base and the klipsch are pretty good with base even without the sub-- they seem like pretty good speakers for the amount that I wanted to spend , but I am always looking to enhance the music- they play lound without distorting-
thanks for your info

That Klipsch is probably boomier than anything that was recommended. The one I had was a noise box. When I got a real sub I was shocked at the difference. If you are itching for a sound quality upgrade that's where you're gonna get the most improvement. You can try for yourself, risk free if you want. SVS has a 45 day satisfaction guarantee. If you don't like it, for whatever reason, they'll take it back, no questions asked and foot the bill for shippig. Both ways.

I've been trying to explain to you that a really good sub will not be boomy. No audible distortion (within spec). At all. Large or small. Night and day (I don't use that phrase often describing audio) difference between an SVS sub and Klipsch. Night and day. Stunningly better. Huge. Way, WAY more of an improvement over upgrading the electronics...

 

[Pogre]

I went from 2 of these dual 10" Klipsch RPW 110's to this.

Those are 15" subwoofers from Hsu. and they aren't boomy. Not even a little. In fact, they sound quieter than the Klipsch subs were because all of the boom and noise produced by the RPW's was gone. I had no clue how crappy and dirty my bass was until I did this. I will never own another Klipsch subwoofer again. Never.