Yamaha AV RX-V385, Xbox one X, LG 55 SK9000

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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
Good evening,

I’m going to do my best to keep this simple. My goal is as follows:
1- Xbox one X connected directly to my tv (so I get the best picture quality)
2- AV receiver connected via arc to tv (so I still get the best sound)

I need to know if this set up will still send Dolby true hd and dts-hd from my Xbox through the tv to the receiver?

When my Xbox is connected to the av receiver my display will only show 4K UHD

When my Xbox is connected directly to my tv it displays 4K UHD and 60 hz refresh rate.

They say that this receiver supports 60 hz refresh rate. If this is the case why doesn’t my Xbox recognize the 60 hz when my Xbox is connected directly to my receiver?

A gentleman at Best Buy said I should leave the Xbox connected to my tv and have an optical cable connected to the receiver. But from what I understand that optical doesn’t support Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD. So it seems like I can not get the best of both worlds.

Any advice would be much much appreciated.
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
Good evening,

I’m going to do my best to keep this simple. My goal is as follows:
1- Xbox one X connected directly to my tv (so I get the best picture quality)
2- AV receiver connected via arc to tv (so I still get the best sound)

I need to know if this set up will still send Dolby true hd and dts-hd from my Xbox through the tv to the receiver?

When my Xbox is connected to the av receiver my display will only show 4K UHD

When my Xbox is connected directly to my tv it displays 4K UHD and 60 hz refresh rate.

They say that this receiver supports 60 hz refresh rate. If this is the case why doesn’t my Xbox recognize the 60 hz when my Xbox is connected directly to my receiver?

A gentleman at Best Buy said I should leave the Xbox connected to my tv and have an optical cable connected to the receiver. But from what I understand that optical doesn’t support Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD. So it seems like I can not get the best of both worlds.

Any advice would be much much appreciated.
Did you set Yamaha to HDMI mode 1?
 
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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
Did you set Yamaha to HDMI mode 1?
I connected the hdmi to the hdmi mode 1 port and it would not send sound. It is currently plugged in to the arc hdmi on the tv and the audio out hdmi on the receiver. It will not send sound from the hdmi 1 connection. It sends sound from the audio 1 mode. Based on the current connection set up.
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
Sorry I’m not at home. Trying to explain quickly. :)

Mode 1 and 2 are advanced settings menu choices. Not the port number. The port number is port 1 for the tv and port #2 or 3 for the Xbox.
 
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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
Ok. So when my Xbox is connected to the receiver and the receiver is connected to the tv. My Xbox only shows that my resolution is 4K UHD. It does not show the frame rate at 60hz.

But when the Xbox is connected directly to the tv is shows:
Resolution 4K UHD
Frame Rate 60hz

With that said. Is my receiver not a 60hz receiver as marketed?
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
The 4K mode can be changed in advanced menu.

Put in standby

Hold “straight” button and power on

This gets you to the advanced menu

Page 85 of your owners manual explains this

You can download manual at Yamaha.
 
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Leemix

Audioholic General
Also you dont get dolby trueHD or DTS version through ARC yet.


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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
Also you dont get dolby trueHD or DTS version through ARC yet.


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I don’t understand. I have the Xbox plugged into the receiver and the receiver plugged into the arc hdmi connection to the tv. If it isn’t sending Dolby trueHD or DTS what’s up with all these receivers saying they support these features?
 
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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
The 4K mode can be changed in advanced menu.

Put in standby

Hold “straight” button and power on

This gets you to the advanced menu

Page 85 of your owners manual explains this

You can download manual at Yamaha.
Thank you for advice. I was able to find that feature and it is set to 4K Mode 1. I’m still a little curious as to why my Xbox is not showing that it is recognizing the 60hz. Is this because the receiver is doing the work?
 
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Leemix

Audioholic General
I don’t understand. I have the Xbox plugged into the receiver and the receiver plugged into the arc hdmi connection to the tv. If it isn’t sending Dolby trueHD or DTS what’s up with all these receivers saying they support these features?
You dont use AudioReturnChannel when things are connected to the receiver. ARC is for when things are connected to the TV directly or when using the TVs own apps for example, so you get the sound «the wrong way» from the tv to the receiver instead of the «normal» way sound and video into receiver and then from receiver to the TV.


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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I don’t understand. I have the Xbox plugged into the receiver and the receiver plugged into the arc hdmi connection to the tv. If it isn’t sending Dolby trueHD or DTS what’s up with all these receivers saying they support these features?
Yep like Leemix says, ARC only supports audio from the tv. Same audio pretty much as an optical connection but no lossless codecs (Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA). Believe the only advantage current version of ARC has vs optical is Atmos meta-data on DD+ streams on some tvs. Future editions of ARC are set to include lossless, tho. If your xbox is plugged into the avr via hdmi then you can utilize the lossless codecs now, it has nothing to do with ARC.
 
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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
You dont use AudioReturnChannel when things are connected to the receiver. ARC is for when things are connected to the TV directly or when using the TVs own apps for example, so you get the sound «the wrong way» from the tv to the receiver instead of the «normal» way sound and video into receiver and then from receiver to the TV.


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Ok, so do I have my set up wrong? I’m still a little confused. Sorry, I’m new to all this. Leemix I do appreciate your advice.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
@cmtribbl ARC is literally Audio Return Channel....it only takes audio back to the avr from tv OTA/apps or sources connected to your tv; ARC simply uses the same HDMI cord as the one from your avr to the tv. Do you use the audio from the tv at all? You don't need ARC if you don't....
 
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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
Yep like Leemix says, ARC only supports audio from the tv. Same audio pretty much as an optical connection but no lossless codecs (Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA). Believe the only advantage current version of ARC has vs optical is Atmos meta-data on DD+ streams on some tvs. Future editions of ARC are set to include lossless, tho. If your xbox is plugged into the avr via hdmi then you can utilize the lossless codecs now, it has nothing to do with ARC.
Lovinthehd,
Thank you for your response. So let’s say I plugged my Xbox directly to the tv and connected an optical from the Xbox to the AVR. Will it still produce the same sound as having the Xbox via hdmi plugged into the AVR?
Or is it better to have the Xbox plugged into the AVR via HDMI?
 
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Leemix

Audioholic General
Ok, so do I have my set up wrong? I’m still a little confused. Sorry, I’m new to all this. Leemix I do appreciate your advice.
Its best to have the xbox connected with HDMI to the receiver. (Which i think you do have now)

Edit: just added HDMI to the sentence for clarification.

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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
@cmtribbl if you plugged the xbox into the tv you'd be limited by ARC....no lossless codecs. You are maximizing your audio possibilities by plugging sources into your avr rather than tv. Once HDMI 2.1(eARC) is available in gear then that can handle lossless codecs....
 
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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
@cmtribbl ARC is literally Audio Return Channel....it only takes audio back to the avr from tv OTA/apps or sources connected to your tv; ARC simply uses the same HDMI cord as the one from your avr to the tv. Do you use the audio from the tv at all? You don't need ARC if you don't....
Lovinthehd I don’t use audio from the TV. I just thought I was supposed to plug in the Xbox via hdmi to the avr and then have the receiver connected to the tv via hdmi arc to support sound and picture. I apologize for the confusion.
 
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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
Its best to have the xbox connected with HDMI to the receiver. (Which i think you do have now)

Edit: just added HDMI to the sentence for clarification.

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I do have that now.
 
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cmtribbl

Enthusiast
@cmtribbl if you plugged the xbox into the tv you'd be limited by ARC....no lossless codecs. You are maximizing your audio possibilities by plugging sources into your avr rather than tv. Once HDMI 2.1(eARC) is available in gear then that can handle lossless codecs....
Awesome. I understand now. Thank you.
 
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