5G Wireless Apocalypse: The RF Health-Risk Conspiracy

[highfigh]

"KGB research" s hardly the most reliable, peer-reviewed science out there.

That sounds a bit like "U-Rah Rah USA- USA!". Like the US, USSR/Russia has had brilliant minds and if they were behind an academic rock, I don't think they would have successfully reverse-engineered so much of our technology. I recommend talking to someone from the Eastern Block who is involved in high tech, if possible. Chernobyl, notwithstanding.

 

[highfigh]

I'm not saying RF does or doesn't cause these problems, but I have a sore on my right ear that comes and goes, depending on how much time my cellular phone is close to my head. This isn't from one phone, either. I also saw major disruption on the screen of my CRT monitor when my phone would ring if it was closer than two feet.

 

[shadyJ]

That sounds a bit like "U-Rah Rah USA- USA!". Like the US, USSR/Russia has had brilliant minds and if they were behind an academic rock, I don't think they would have successfully reverse-engineered so much of our technology. I recommend talking to someone from the Eastern Block who is involved in high tech, if possible. Chernobyl, notwithstanding.

I'm not putting down Russian research, but the 'KGB research' sounds an awful like scare-mongering clickbait. Show me the peer-reviewed research to convince me.

I'm not saying RF does or doesn't cause these problems, but I have a sore on my right ear that comes and goes, depending on how much time my cellular phone is close to my head. This isn't from one phone, either. I also saw major disruption on the screen of my CRT monitor when my phone would ring if it was closer than two feet.

How do you know that sore isn't psychosomatically caused? Or how do you know you only started noticing it when some article went on about scary UHF radio waves?

 

[highfigh]

I'm not putting down Russian research, but the 'KGB research' sounds an awful like scare-mongering clickbait. Show me the peer-reviewed research to convince me.

How do you know that sore isn't psychosomatically caused? Or how do you know you only started noticing it when some article went on about scary UHF radio waves?

Now is time for diabolical plan to go into effect-

I never had it until I got a Motorola RAZR- I'm not sure that could be psychosomatically induced, but I'm not a brain specialist.

 

[Kelley]

There are 8,000 studies that show 5G is dangerous, not just the one by Dr. Lai used in this article. The notion that refuting or dismissing one article out of 8,000 settles the question is of course questionable.

Secondly, you've made a common mistake. It's not ionizing RADIATION, which are WAVES, that are a major concern here. It is common everyday ions, which are PARTICLES and the NONTHERMAL effects of the radio waves.

 

[Wayde Robson]

In the first article (RF Health Risk Conspiracy) we looked at what I consider to be a sideshow controversy around 5G, the idea of radio waves causing you physical damage. But this is the real harm. 5G is a 21st century technology set to arrive on top of our 20th century laws on digital privacy and mass-surveillance. A third installment is coming next week that will closely examine the depth of the spying from both private companies and government intelligence agencies. This is where it really gets scary because it's already happening now whenever you're online, 5G is simply going to take all that apparently legal, but 4th Amendment-breaking spying on you from the Internet, and into the real world.

Read the full article: 5G Apocalypse: The RF Health-Risk Conspiracy

 

[shadyJ]

In the first article (RF Health Risk Conspiracy) we looked at what I consider to be a sideshow controversy around 5G, the idea of radio waves causing you physical damage. But this is the real harm. 5G is a 21st century technology set to arrive on top of our 20th century laws on digital privacy and mass-surveillance. A third installment is coming next week that will closely examine the depth of the spying from both private companies and government intelligence agencies. This is where it really gets scary because it's already happening now whenever you're online, 5G is simply going to take all that apparently legal, but 4th Amendment-breaking spying on you from the Internet, and into the real world.

Read the full article: 5G Apocalypse: The RF Health-Risk Conspiracy
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Very good follow-up article, Wayde. Sadly, I think most people are willing to give up their privacy for the sake of convenience, at least in the USA. Europe seems to be a bit more concerned at least.

Ah well, privacy was nice while it lasted.

 

[Wayde Robson]

Very good follow-up article, Wayde. Sadly, I think most people are willing to give up their privacy for the sake of convenience, at least in the USA. Europe seems to be a bit more concerned at least.

Ah well, privacy was nice while it lasted.

Thanks, ShadyJ

There's a third installment coming up next week that I hope reads like a kind-of horror story about what's happening to our whole society because of all that "casual spying" and the social costs of the entire online economy being devoted to advertising.

I hope to convince people who don't care about giving up "a little privacy" for the sake of online conveniences like apps and smart devices. There's some insidious poop going on, not in a hidden "conspiracy theory" way either, it's quite open. And thanks to folks like Edward Snowden we know how deep it goes and how connected it is to government intelligence agencies, which blatantly infringes on the 4th Amendment.

But even if someone didn't care about being relentlessly spied upon by private businesses and thinks that because they're innocent of any wrongdoing, they're not worried about NSA spying either, there is a net effect of all that spying that really is messing with our minds. Nobody is immune. And there is clearly demonstrable damage to our democracies in western nations.

The effect is part of the reason our countries are huddling into these superficial camps, Trumpist/populism on the right and rabid identity politics on the left.

 

[everettT]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/04/5g-mobile-networks-threat-to-world-weather-forecasting

 

[lovinthehd]

LOL privacy since the cell phone? That's funny.

 

[mmulhern]

Wayde---

Great article. Question re: Ford that I was unclear about. Is the data tracking currently in effect or is that their plan in the future? I'm actually unsure what Ford's definition of a 'smart car' is.

The reason I am interested is that I recently purchased a Ford vehicle for my business and I wanted to pay the dealer cash. The dealer told me that they could give me $2500 off if I financed the car. I said 'what about the cash though? That should be the best deal.'

They said that the $2500 was from Ford and was only available if I financed. If I want to pay cash and get the discount, finance and then pay it off the first month. Which is what we did.

 

[matteos]

All downside. No upside.

You track me and I get what? A free coupon to Starbucks? What happened to "Nothing evil"?

 

[matteos]

To be honest, I can see how mandatory vaccinations would be an unethical law. I am not an anti-vaxxer, but I am not a big fan of forcing medical procedures on people either.

Because children under 1 can't get the measles vaccine which is the most infectious disease known to man. If you have measles and sneeze in a room it lingers in the air hours after you leave. So my kid could go into that room 2 hours later, catch measles and then possibly die or become death/blind through complications. That is my reality right now. Only last weekend someone was wandering around the grocery store near me with measles. Thank God I didn't go there that weekend with my 6 month old child.

If you don't get vaccinated fine. But then go live as a hermit somewhere far away from everybody else.

 

[gene]

This is the final installment in our ongoing look at the upcoming 5G revolution. We'll look at how our lack of privacy online began in the early days of Google and how it's used to manipulate us with the promise of personalization through behavioral data collection. We each get a unique Internet experience through search and social media, designed to shock as with a skewed version of reality based on our own biases to keep us angry, and engaging with ads. The result is tearing democracy apart with online outrage. But all is not lost, with an election year coming, we already see momentum behind meaningful online privacy regulations that could nip this problem in the bud, before the 5G Internet of Things technologies brings the relentless online spying to the world outside.

Read: Privacy Now! The Destructive Influence of Big Data Surveillance

 

[Phase 2]

All downside. No upside.

You track me and I get what? A free coupon to Starbucks? What happened to "Nothing evil"?

I had placed a ordered off of Amazon one day. Than like not even 24 hrs I get this email from Google asking me why I should use Google to make my purchases online. Really!! Them f..kheads been tracking my every move on the internet!! The email went like this, " why not make your purchases through Google."

 

[Wayde Robson]

Wayde---

Great article. Question re: Ford that I was unclear about. Is the data tracking currently in effect or is that their plan in the future? I'm actually unsure what Ford's definition of a 'smart car' is.

The reason I am interested is that I recently purchased a Ford vehicle for my business and I wanted to pay the dealer cash. The dealer told me that they could give me $2500 off if I financed the car. I said 'what about the cash though? That should be the best deal.'

They said that the $2500 was from Ford and was only available if I financed. If I want to pay cash and get the discount, finance and then pay it off the first month. Which is what we did.

I don't think it's completely rolled out, but it must be close today. I follow the Freakonomics podcast and they interviewed the new CEO of Ford (at least I think that's his job title). He had an interesting resume, I think he started in furniture or something strange, then tech, then Ford as a professional executive. He had the master plan to combine Ford Credit data collection with online/in-car data collection for a pretty massive suite of personal data that few other companies would ever have access to... all as a means of increasing revenue.

Damn, remember the days when a car company you know... sold cars. Profits were tied to the merits of the automobiles they produced.

 

[shadyJ]

Another great installment, Wayde. This whole series of articles is pretty epic, thanks for writing it. Sadly, I think the trend of collecting and exploiting personal data by electronic devices is a Pandora's Box that can never be shut again. The advantage of owning all of that data is just too great.

 

[ski2xblack]

Ok, an ethical question for the forum. If 5G (and the IofT approach in general) present existential threats to democracy and privacy, then perhaps it's justifiable to help spread FUD about cancer that the tech does not cause. After all, it's not like the popular press or consumers can differentiate between peer reviewed science and pure BS anyway, as, for example, even the supposedly "smart" segment of society is more prone to fall for the anti-vaccination nonsense. In this case, the power of The Stupid can be leveraged to produce a more beneficial outcome for all. Such a postmodern application of utilitarian ethics seems a perfect fit for today's state of affairs.

Another question: which dystopian fiction was more prophetic:
-Huxley's Brave New World
-Mike Judge's Idiocracy

 

[CharliePugh]

I think it's absurd to relate 5G to radiation and some global problems.

 

[MrBoat]

Somehow, google and all the other online analytics get me all wrong with their targeted ads. I should be inundated with all of the things associated to what I research online but I get nada. I have my spam filter set to high, and have slam-dunked and sh!t-listed every bit of unwanted advertising, and their domains for years by now to where I get very little spam anymore.

Also crap-listed gmail and every other free email hosts years ago, when I noticed that all of the virus setups, clickbait and other sketchy spam tended to come from those services. I also only accept emails from people/businesses in my address books, and those with provider supplied email accounts.

I rarely use my phone for internet, and pretty much avoid it and the web while at work or in the car. The more advanced these types of technology become, the further I remove myself from it. Mostly for no other reasons than not having time for, or interest in it, and that I don't want to look and act like those who are so addicted to it.

I got into cell phones initially, and then did without a phone of any kind for 5 years. It was so liberating to not have it to maintain or think about. It made it to where I don't really want to go back to using it beyond the absolute necessity and that's been my usage ever since.

Watching some Boomhauer trying to talk-to-text is possibly the most amusing thing I have seen lately, and how it comes out on social media, funnier yet. I have an acquaintance that was always mumbling and trying to communicate as he was turning and walking away from me. I was always having to ask him to repeat what he was saying. Now he gets to do it to himself with the phone, and I like to think of it as. . . digital justice.

Happening along in life, while so desperately and addictively clutching some electronic device is just not a good look for me, or anyone, really. It's possibly the most of a turn-off with regard to my attraction to the opposite sex, too. I have actually lost interest in dating someone recently due to too much competition with the phone.