1/2 mile south of stupid and sinking - need setup help with PC> SONY DTS598 receiver>LG 42CS560 hd t.v.

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GeneralProductsHulls

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Not sure where to start without causing confusion. Have a converter plugged into the DVD/CD port (odd 1/2 square plug) with HDMI in from PC and out to T.V. Gives me image but no sound. Also have a component RCA running from different outputs on the receiver to the t.v. but nothing. No antenna but I get 5x hiss from the speakers. Son has cancer so I'm kind of mentally run down and this just looks like random wires running everywhere at the moment - normally not really dense but this one's got me a bit tangled up.

Any help is definitely appreciated and glad to find the forum.

Best to all,

Mike
 
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Not sure where to start without causing confusion. Have a converter plugged into the DVD/CD port (odd 1/2 square plug) with HDMI in from PC and out to T.V. Gives me image but no sound. Also have a component RCA running from different outputs on the receiver to the t.v. but nothing. No antenna but I get 5x hiss from the speakers. Son has cancer so I'm kind of mentally run down and this just looks like random wires running everywhere at the moment - normally not really dense but this one's got me a bit tangled up.
What is this converter plugged into the DVD/CD?

What you should have is HDMI from your DVD player going to the AVR, as well as HDMI going from the PC to the AVR. The outgoing HDMI from the AVR should be going to the TV. There should be no need for component RCA cables. So you are seeing images but not hearing sound from sources that are using HDMI connectivity? If it is some screwy setting in the AVR, you might try a factory reset to default settings in the AVR.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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What is this converter plugged into the DVD/CD?

What you should have is HDMI from your DVD player going to the AVR, as well as HDMI going from the PC to the AVR. The outgoing HDMI from the AVR should be going to the TV. There should be no need for component RCA cables. So you are seeing images but not hearing sound from sources that are using HDMI connectivity? If it is some screwy setting in the AVR, you might try a factory reset to default settings in the AVR.
Probably an hdmi converter, assuming this is the DE-598 which doesn't have hdmi input. Would help to know what converter, tho. Component RCA is video only so not sure what that means audio wise (or is it rather composite rca?).

PS Nice screen name, big Larry Niven fan myself :)

PPS Sorry about your son
 
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GeneralProductsHulls

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Converter is a ViewHD Advanced HDMI to HDMI + Audio with SPDIF & L/R Outputs - aka VHD-H2HSAs

Thanks Shady - the converter has output to the receiver from an SPDiF port. That is plugged into a port that says DIGITAL>OPTICAL>VIDEO IN. The one right below it says SA-CD/CD In. The HDMI cables run from PC to this SPDiF converter and is plugged into the HDMI In. Another HDMI is plugged into the opposite side of the converter and runs to the back of the T.V.

On the front of the receiver, I've tried all the settings which are; Video 1, Video 2, Video 3, DVD, MD/TAPE, SA-CD/CD, FM, AM

Image has always been easy to get using HDMI from PC>T.V. I've used the T.V. to watch internet streaming movies using my computer's sound system, which works well.

So the computer is the only playback device. Also don't know if the receiver should appear in the computer's list of sound devices. AVR= Audio/Video Receiver?

I found the SONY manual for the DTS - will it show how to do a factory reset, if needed?

Thanks again Shady
 
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GeneralProductsHulls

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Probably an hdmi converter, assuming this is the DE-598 which doesn't have hdmi input. Would help to know what converter, tho. Component RCA is video only so not sure what that means audio wise (or is it rather composite rca?).

PS Nice screen name, big Larry Niven fan myself :)
PPS Sorry about your son
Thanks lovin - and Niven really did it for me back in the day.:) GPH just sounded better than calling myself "LYING B*ST&#D :) :) :)

This is the DTS598 and you're right - no HDMI - hence the converter. The cable is Component and not Composite - stuck buying at Walmart and guy was no help.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Thanks lovin - and Niven really did it for me back in the day.:)

This is the DTS598 and you're right - no HDMI - hence the converter. The cable is Component and not Composite - stuck buying at Walmart and guy was no help.
I only find a STR-DE598 (and I have a 597 myself). The component connections are video only (the blue/green/red set of rca connectors), composite are the yellow for video, red/white for L/R audio. AVR is indeed audio video receiver.

You might need to confirm the assignment in the Sony for the optical input for the "video" audio input, but one of those Video selections should yield audio if the converter works correctly.

Big Ringworld fan here :)
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Have you tried using the rca outputs from the hdmi converter to any of the avr inputs?
 
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Big Ringworld fan here :) Huge ending - what a tale :)

Correction: AVR is a SONY STR DE598.

Converter is now hooked up and I have an image. Computer says "no audio playback devices are connected." Converter is set to pass.

"Have you tried using the rca outputs from the hdmi converter to any of the avr inputs? "
The converter only has two RCA input ports. Red and White. The Composite cable has Red, Blue and Green - so not sure how to properly connect them.

The T.V. Input screen shows both an HDMI connection and an AV connection but I only get image from HDMI.

"You might need to confirm the assignment in the Sony for the optical input for the "video" audio input, but one of those Video selections should yield audio if the converter works correctly." Understanding the front is my second challenge.

1) There are "assignment" RCA ports in the back. Is that what you're referring to?

2) Optical input (at the front of the AVR) is set by using DVD, MD/TAPE and SA-CD/CD. I've sorted through them with no results (but the connections could have been wrong.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Big Ringworld fan here :) Huge ending - what a tale :)

Correction: AVR is a SONY STR DE598.

Converter is now hooked up and I have an image. Computer says "no audio playback devices are connected." Converter is set to pass.

"Have you tried using the rca outputs from the hdmi converter to any of the avr inputs? "
The converter only has two RCA input ports. Red and White. The Composite cable has Red, Blue and Green - so not sure how to properly connect them.

The T.V. Input screen shows both an HDMI connection and an AV connection but I only get image from HDMI.

"You might need to confirm the assignment in the Sony for the optical input for the "video" audio input, but one of those Video selections should yield audio if the converter works correctly." Understanding the front is my second challenge.

1) There are "assignment" RCA ports in the back. Is that what you're referring to?

2) Optical input (at the front of the AVR) is set by using DVD, MD/TAPE and SA-CD/CD. I've sorted through them with no results (but the connections could have been wrong.
This your converter? I went by this pic that shows two rca outputs. https://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Extractor-Optical-Toslink-Converter/dp/B00KBHX072. Altho if the hdmi converter isn't being identified by your pc as an audio device, it may not be outputting any audio? Funny it seems to identify the hdmi fine for video, tho. You might look at the output settings in your pc further...

RCA cables don't care what color they're connected to, any two of the three rca cables are fine for two channel audio.

In the avr you have assignable inputs (for analog/rca input vs the digital inputs)....I think, don't think they're only automatically detected at least but it's been a while since I've used that avr (have three others that have HDMI, and don't even have the Sony hooked up at the moment). Just a way of telling the avr in setup what type of input is in use. See page 36 of the manual.

Ringworld trilogy may need re-reading soon :)
 
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GeneralProductsHulls

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Just cleared memory. No change. I also removed the composite cable entirely and moved the HDMI cable from HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 on the back of the T.V. The T.V. now shows up on the computer's sound devices list and responds positively to "test" but no sound from a Youtube video I'm using as signal in.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Just cleared memory. No change. I also removed the composite cable entirely and moved the HDMI cable from HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 on the back of the T.V. The T.V. now shows up on the computer's sound devices list and responds positively to "test" but no sound from a Youtube video I'm using as signal in.
Just the tv shows on the list of sound devices, eh? Is the hdmi converter manual any help at all?
 
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GeneralProductsHulls

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"Ringworld trilogy may need re-reading soon :) "
Ahh... don't tempt me :)

That is my converter. AVR is set to AutoDetect input - tried other settings - nothing.

Computer Audio Devices doesn't show anything connected besides the T.V. I know signal is thru-putting to the T.V. from the converter - when I switch from "pass" to the other two switches, the T.V. goes dark, then reaquires signal.

Tried following the manual for setting assignments but no luck. I did get the T.V. to produce sound from it's own speakers after switching the HDMI to the 2nd port on the T.V.
 
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If Youtube doesn't stream in 5.1 will it even pass thru the converter? I'm not sure I'm at the encoding stage of figuring this out but I could be. But there's no signal to being with so I think my problem is still connectivity and not bitstream compatibility. Guessing here...
 
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GeneralProductsHulls

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I did find this. Can you decode to see if it's part of the problem?

"It extracts 2CH PCM stereo audio signal from the HDMI input and convert it to 2CH analog stereo output through its RCA style L/R analog output AND SPDIF output at the same time. The SPDIF output can support Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby Digital 5.1CH and DTS 5.1CH audio; SPDIF / Toslink does not support audio format higher than Dolby Digital Plus. The RCA L/R output will not have sound if the incoming audio is multi-channel audio (>2CH). (Please check VHD-AD3X1 / VHD-ADAC for DD5.1 or DTS5.1 to analog stereo decode application."
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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I did find this. Can you decode to see if it's part of the problem?

"It extracts 2CH PCM stereo audio signal from the HDMI input and convert it to 2CH analog stereo output through its RCA style L/R analog output AND SPDIF output at the same time. The SPDIF output can support Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby Digital 5.1CH and DTS 5.1CH audio; SPDIF / Toslink does not support audio format higher than Dolby Digital Plus. The RCA L/R output will not have sound if the incoming audio is multi-channel audio (>2CH). (Please check VHD-AD3X1 / VHD-ADAC for DD5.1 or DTS5.1 to analog stereo decode application."
Passes lossy 5.1 codecs but no conversion to 2ch. Have you tried setting your pc to 2ch output only? What kind of audio were you testing with before?
 
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GeneralProductsHulls

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What kind of audio were you testing with before?
Just Youtube videos - didn't think to try different file types. Have to quit for tonight but will pick it up again tomorrow. I'll try some different formats and see if anything makes it through.

Thanks SO much for your help. :)
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Just Youtube videos - didn't think to try different file types. Have to quit for tonight but will pick it up again tomorrow. I'll try some different formats and see if anything makes it through.

Thanks SO much for your help. :)
Well that should be 2ch, yes? At least I haven't encountered anything but on youtube but don't use it much. Wish I had some way to get you going, good luck!
 
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