Ummm...now what!!!??? :) But seriously....

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Steelers252006

Audioholic
Wheee! Time to get to work! ;)
So what exactly do I need to do outside the obvious take the boxes off, plug them in type fun stuff? What do I need to know here in order to get them dialed in? I have a pair of wire strippers, a box cutter, and about 100 feet of wire as you recommended, kind sir. ;)
 
one more time

one more time

Junior Audioholic
So what exactly do I need to do outside the obvious take the boxes off, plug them in type fun stuff? What do I need to know here in order to get them dialed in? I have a pair of wire strippers, a box cutter, and about 100 feet of wire as you recommended, kind sir. ;)
A good first step might be to familiarize yourself with the manuals.

These aren't your grandpa's simple 1960's era stereos where you just connect the speakers, plug in your turntable, maybe connect an antenna, and you were good to go.
 
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ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
I know guys aren't supposed to read. Oh... ummm... manuals. :p

This is the one time that "wisdom" gets thrown out the door. I've encouraged you to learn about the gear, not just so you can make informed decisions as you shop, but so you don't have to shop again when you blow a driver or an amp, etc. :)

All my stuff had great welcome and set up guides. Your AVR will do the same I think when its connected to you TV, but ideally, you still get everything connected first.

If you're rearranging the room... this might be the time to do that. If not, cut enough speaker wire to go from each speaker to the AVR +3' so you can move things if needed. I would measure, AVR to Floor to Speaker to Binding Post +3'.

I don't like your TV stand as a home for the AVR... not enough room to breathe. Do you have anything that you can use short term so the machine can get proper air circulation and avoid potential overheating? Its ok to set up the AVR to the side of your TV stand... just put it on something, even a 2'x2' plywood square would be good for the short term.

BTW... speaker wires DO NOT have to be the same length. (I still struggle with this, but when you have 7-13 different wires running around, just giving yourself enough slack to move your AVR is best... Coiling tons of cable behind your AVR is never a good solution.

Hope this helps get you going, Amigo!

Cheers
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
BTW.. speaker wires DO NOT have to be the same length. (I still struggle with this, but when you have 7-13 different wires running around, just giving yourself enough slack to move your AVR is best... Coiling tons of cable behind your AVR is never a good solution.


Cheers
Electricity moves far faster than the difference in length would ever make, so there's not going to be a noticeable electrical delay unless one is miles longer than another.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Usually there is a separate "Quick Setup" or "Getting Started" guide. It provides a fairly "idiot-proof" approach to basic setup.
Basically it will get you connected to the TV and into the setup routine (built-into the AVR). Following the on-screen setup routine will get everything up and running.
It will also introduce you to the correct terminology. I think Denon gives you a CD instead of a book for the full manual. This is a good thing because, using the terminology from the "Quick Start Guide" you can perform computer searches (but also look at the table of contents so you have an overall idea of he manual's contents).
Once you have followed the setup process, you can enjoy your system, but you really should go back and scan through the manual (and the feature list) to decide what options (or questions for us) you are interested in!
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
Usually the manuals are available in PDF to download to your phone and computer.
 
GrimSurfer

GrimSurfer

Senior Audioholic
Electricity moves far faster than the difference in length would ever make, so there's not going to be a noticeable electrical delay unless one is miles longer than another.
LOL. I read something (maybe on this site?) about a US Admiral that used to hand out nano-seconds at conferences. It was a length of wire in the 1-3 foot range.

Very clever. So, no, identicle length speaker wires not needed. Just keep the lengths within several feet or so.
 
Sef_Makaro

Sef_Makaro

Audioholic
Usually the manuals are available in PDF to download to your phone and computer.
My Yamaha even has a link to the manual available in the control app. Pretty handy at times because it’s a searchable format
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
BTW... speaker wires DO NOT have to be the same length. (I still struggle with this, but when you have 7-13 different wires running around, just giving yourself enough slack to move your AVR is best... Coiling tons of cable behind your AVR is never a good solution.
Look at it this way:
Do you have a light switch in your house that controls more than one light fixture? Most commonly is a two bay garage or basement. The fixtures are often an easy 10 feet apart. When you flip the switch, is there a delay between them? Trick question! Of course there is! The electricity (normally) has to go farther for one of the fixtures! But can you detect the delay? Assuming your wiring is not partially eaten by rats, you should not be able to detect any delay because the delay is minute compared to our ability to detect changes. IOW, this delay is so small as to be inconsequential to humans (and, I would presume, all biological organisms).

IIRC, we detect visual stimuli at a rate of around 0.02 seconds (don't take that to the bank).

Electricity travels through wire at about 1/100th the speed of light (186000 miles per second divided by 100=1860 miles per second=9,820,800 feet per second). So to travel 10 extra feet would take 0.00000102 seconds!

My memory is probably wrong about the 0.02 seconds, but if it were right it would take 200,000 feet of wire before we would detect a difference. However, as long as you allow me plus or minus three magnitudes on the 0.02 seconds, we are still well below the threshold (and given that type of tolerance/allowance, you can take it to the bank)!
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
I love all the science lessons following and supporting my statement! :)
 
brettski

brettski

Audiophyte
I would expect that maintaining similar wire lengths would be more about maintaining similar resistance than anything to do with signal delay (which is not expected to be an issue for the reasons described above).

resistance = resistivity × length / area

Therefore if you have one wire which is twice as long as the other, the wire will be twice as resistant to the flow of current. Depending on the gauge of the wires and the lengths this could end up being non-trivial.
 
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