Help! I have an a2070 and an opportunity for an SR7012

[kini]

Just MO but you should not need to use someone else's interpretation of how a speaker should sound based on some random computer models that are a one size fits all solution. Either the speakers sound good or they don't. Turn off the EQ, use the manual PEQ so that it's what YOU want it to sound like. Really the only useful room correction is in the bass frequencies if it's needed at all. Remember the software is labeled "Automatic Room Correction" not "Automatic Speaker Correction".

Unless the room setup is especially horrendous it shouldn't be that much of a factor for most listening. If it is then room treatments or a setup change will produce better results than a different version of room correction software.

 

[PENG]

I've listened to the RTiAs in my setup and honestly didn't hear any difference with vinyl.

They are not for me either, but I expect them to do better than the 75T, given the higher price and specs they should, but they do need more "juice" in general..

I still disagree about the 75Ts since they did sound very good with "lower class" receivers

Again, my comments had nothing to do with "sounding good", or not. It was only about within the audio component chain (from media source to sound) I considered the speakers the "weak link" but only in relative sense. If I meant to say the 75T cannot sound good, I would have said so. Let me try one more example to make this clear, say, if you match the RX-V2070, or even the RX-V3080, with a pair of Revel Salon2, then I would have referred to the receiver as the weak link, that does not mean the RX-V2070 cannot make the Revel Salon2 or any high end speakers that measured well to sound good to a lot of people. Weak link simply means it is the weaker link (component) of the whole chain relative to the other links/components. Disagreements on forums are fine and happen all the time, but in this case you may be disagreeing with something that isn't there to disagree with.

so I believe that the A2070 should also make them sound at least as good as they previously sounded.

Agreed from the beginning, and that's why we suggested you try re-running YPAO, and/or manual EQ (example: make some slight cuts in the 2.5-5 kHz range).

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Unless the room setup is especially horrendous it shouldn't be that much of a factor for most listening.

I realize that is a non-optimum layout and why I believe the EQ to be so important for my setup...

As mentioned, most rooms with carpets, rugs, sofas, pillows, window blinds/drapes don't sound bad.

If you have tile or wood floor and don't use a big rug, then it will sound terrible (echos) and no EQ in the world will fix the problem.

So do you have carpets, rugs, sofas, pillows, window blinds or drapes?

 

[lovinthehd]

Just curious what you thought of the Onkyo 818 with its Audyssey XT32 (but no separate level/delay setting for dual subs capability via SubEQ that the 7012 has).