New guy with old stuff

[Chornet44]

I just set up a theater/game/football room in our spare bedroom with some old stuff given to me and some stuff I had.

Room 12’x15’ drywall on 3 sides brick on one side, carpet floor. Seats are 13’ from speakers and about a foot away from the rear wall(could move it up some if it matters).

55” tv
Pioneer VSX-821-k reciever
Dayton T652-Air fronts
Dayton C452-Air center
Klipsch Sw-450 powered sub

Don’t have much of a budget to upgrade right now but would like to either add rear speakers or replace the fronts and move them back.

The towers are only 30”, should I angle them up or put them on stands?
What should I be planning on in the future to build a legit surround sound, is any of this stuff usable?

Just want to get some general knowledge and advise before I start buying or changing things.

 

[lovinthehd]

Decent bargain set and can be built upon. I like the idea of moving the best speakers into L/R position as you acquire gear (and moving the former L/R into surrounds is a good plan). Tweeter height should be ear level, so go from there; if you did raise them it probably wouldn't need to be as much as most stands provide. Recently I built little risers for my towers I use as surrounds, 12" high, partially due high seat back but also experimentation as I've often had surrounds a couple feet above ear level in the past (and prefer with riser so far). Seating right up against a boundary (wall) has acoustic issues inherent, I'd move the seat forward. A highly recommended bargain (in price) set of speakers on this forum are fellow member Dennis Murphy's Philharmonic Affordable Accuracy series of speakers.

 

[Chornet44]

Another question, I’m pretty sure the t652-airs don’t have a crossover. Would it be money well spent to add one?

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Another question, I’m pretty sure the t652-airs don’t have a crossover. Would it be money well spent to add one?

It does have a "crossover" if you can call it that, but it's flawed. See some mods you could do to it if your budget is really on a shoestring. making custom DSP changes will require a DSP unit which your Pioneer is not capable of. So if you want to use the method below you'd need something like a MiniDSP box and a plugin software.
http://noaudiophile.com/Dayton_B652_Air/

 

[zieglj01]

Don’t have much of a budget to upgrade right now but would like to either add rear speakers or replace the fronts and move them back.

How much budget would you have now

 

[Chornet44]

I might spend up to $200 right now, if it’s something that I’m gonna keep in the system. I just don’t wanna buy anything that I’m going to end up getting rid of later. I have been checking some of the local Facebook sale pages and pawnshops for audio stuff. Looks like some good deals but I just need to Do some research and educate myself as to what I want and need.

 

[zieglj01]

I might spend up to $200 right now, if it’s something that I’m gonna keep in the system. I just don’t wanna buy anything that I’m going to end up getting rid of later. I have been checking some of the local Facebook sale pages and pawnshops for audio stuff. Looks like some good deals but I just need to Do some research and educate myself as to what I want and need.

And have you been checking your local Craiglist area .... if your willing to list your local Craiglist area, we might be able to pick out some speakers that may interest you.

 

[shadyJ]

You might just move the towers to a surround role and get some Dayton MK442s for the front stage. The MK442s are pretty darn good for $50 a pop. You might also look at JBL Arena 130s, those are $100 each.

 

[zieglj01]

I will give you one option the Boston A26 -- right now they are buy one and get the second one for 1/2 off -- right around your budget. ... And I would move the T652 to the rear
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bosa26gba/boston-acoustics-a26-6.5-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-gloss-black-each/1.html

If you just want to do surrounds for now -- then the 652 Air
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-b652-air-6-1-2-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-with-amt-tweeter-pair--300-651

 

[andyblackcat]

Not sure what postal for these JBL 8330 mkI surrounds (THX) is but the price for them is cheap and they are good cinema surround speaker, I use the mkII version that I got very cheap in the UK several years ago.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-JBL-8330-Cinema-Surround-Speaker/153158640021?hash=item23a8f76195:g:-AwAAOSwkXlbjrOj

 

[Chornet44]

Thanks for the options guys. I’ll be looking into them today.

 

[Chornet44]

And have you been checking your local Craiglist area .... if your willing to list your local Craiglist area, we might be able to pick out some speakers that may interest you.

Amarillo tx is the area.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

You might just move the towers to a surround role and get some Dayton MK442s for the front stage. The MK442s are pretty darn good for $50 a pop. You might also look at JBL Arena 130s, those are $100 each.

Arena 130s are good for surrounds, but you already don't need these.
If you don't mind do a bit of gluing, these would be awesome. I'd build 3 of these for l/c/r
https://www.parts-express.com/tritrix-mtm-speaker-kit-pair-with-knock-down-cabinets--300-7128

 

[zieglj01]

Amarillo tx is the area.

I checked and nothing to recommend from the list

 

[Chornet44]

Arena 130s are good for surrounds, but you already don't need these.
If you don't mind do a bit of gluing, these would be awesome. I'd build 3 of these for l/c/r
https://www.parts-express.com/tritrix-mtm-speaker-kit-pair-with-knock-down-cabinets--300-7128

I don’t mind, I would actually rather build my own than buy off the shelf. I used to build car audio boxes and enjoyed building a tuned box, but home audio is a different animal. Need to learn a lot more before I tackle that. But yes putting together something someone else has already done the leg work or tuning and crossovers and such wouldn’t be a problem.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I don’t mind, I would actually rather build my own than buy off the shelf. I used to build car audio boxes and enjoyed building a tuned box, but home audio is a different animal. Need to learn a lot more before I tackle that. But yes putting together something someone else has already done the leg work or tuning and crossovers and such wouldn’t be a problem.

http://speakerdesignworks.com/Tritrix_pg_1.html

 

[lovinthehd]

I don’t mind, I would actually rather build my own than buy off the shelf. I used to build car audio boxes and enjoyed building a tuned box, but home audio is a different animal. Need to learn a lot more before I tackle that. But yes putting together something someone else has already done the leg work or tuning and crossovers and such wouldn’t be a problem.

I'd check out the various speaker kits from these guys https://www.diysoundgroup.com/