Kevin83

Kevin83

Audiophyte
I have a 10x11 room with 8ft ceiling the room is carperted with no windows and 1 door. I have a Marantz sr5008 and a budget up to $1600. I'm looking for good speakers to make this a good 5.1 home theater room. I don't want the speakers to be large, I would prefer bookeshelf or satellites.

Thanks for any help.
 
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MrBoat

Audioholic Ninja
Being as you said "good" theater room, I would perhaps invest in a great set of main speakers first, and add what might be left of that budget to a piggy bank and build as I got more $ instead of trying to do it all on that. You're going to need a subwoofer too.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
That room is too small for a 5.1 setup. I consider 3.1 as better (or 3.2 as best) use of the budget.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
I would also add multiple (at least two, preferably four) subs along each wall midpoint. Obviously given the size of the room, you don’t need anything super powerful, in my 12x11 bedroom a single Dayton sub 1000 manages a max of 110dB due to the ridiculous amount of room gain you get from a small room. With the dimensions being both small and square you’re likely to have some serious bass issues. With a single sub and the seating near the back wall, I wouldn’t be surprised if you ended up with a big 12dB hump at about 50hz, 4 Dayton sub 1000s will put you back $400 but will work wonders in helping to cancel out the peaks and nulls you’re likely to experience. 2 subs, one in the middle of the front wall and one at the rear wall would work too if you want to allocate more budget to speakers. If space is a concern, a sub 1000l is low profile and will keep out of the way.

Another sub option would be a few RSL speedwoofers, I don’t have any experience with them, but they’re cheap and have excellent reviews, should dig a little deeper than the Daytons too. You’re going to have to spend some time playing with placement if only two subs are used to get a decent response.

You said you don’t want “big” speakers, bookshelf speakers aren’t always small, in fact, many can be quite large. It would help if you better defined how big is too big.

The speakers recommended by others are all good choices, however I will add my own personal recommendations, with saving enough budget for multiple subs in mind.

For small speakers that will both fit into your budget and manage to hold up to the dynamic demands of home theater, I’d recommend 3 pairs of these, use one as a center channel https://m.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-R-14M-Reference-Series-Bookshelf-Speakers-Pair-/282625802331?epid=530092056&hash=item41cdcf805b:g:6w8AAOSwjDZYeS24&_trkparms=pageci%3A3ba17dec-a272-11e7-9cfb-74dbd180715f%7Cparentrq%3Abc6b85d415e0aa47cc741a5dffc8e55b%7Ciid%3A18
They should achieve an in room response of 70hz, which will allow a crossover point of 80hz. The horns will help keep the sound from spraying all over the walls and ceiling, which is a plus in your less than ideal room, and should have no issue getting plenty loud without distorting or compression of dynamics. The price will also allow you to allocate more budget to better multiple subs, which again, I strongly recommend in your situation unless you want boomy one note bass.

If you can go a bit bigger, I’d use these for the fronts, https://m.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-R-15M-Bookshelf-Speakers-PAIR-/371930498702?epid=1930203848&hash=item5698c9068e:g:HcIAAOSwB-1Yp2wT&_trkparms=pageci%3A63ec0e20-a274-11e7-b5d5-74dbd18043ca%7Cparentrq%3Abc79a94b15e0ab156abb2f31ffcf0e7d%7Ciid%3A3 and pair the above mentioned speakers for the surrounds. At the price the open box sell for, they really are a steal. Add this in for the center https://m.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-R-25C-Reference-Dual-5-1-4-Center-Channel-Speaker-Black-R25C-/142512422429?epid=1929792902&hash=item212e66fe1d:g:q-sAAOSwuOxZwTA7&_trkparms=pageci%3A4447f87a-a275-11e7-b5d5-74dbd18043ca%7Cparentrq%3Abc7f677d15e0ab4508ca3262ffe8571f%7Ciid%3A1

All 5 speakers with an R-15m, R-25c, and R-14m setup at open box prices totals up to about $550, leaving a grand for the subs. An all R-14m setup at open box prices would run about $450

You did not mention what size limitations you have as far as subwoofers go. It would help if you could elaborate. If four subs are used, you could play around with using a higher xover, as high as 120hz, this may result in smoother bass response in both the sub bass and the mid bass.

If you decide to go for a single better sub, or two better subs, assuming the seating is confined to a small around (ie a single sofa), I’d place the sub along the front wall (or front and rear wall for dual subs) and use a minidsp to eq the response flat at the MLP. With a grand being left for subs, you could also go for two SVS SB 1000. Being sealed, it should offer a faster step response than a ported sub with less resonance, which will give it less time to excite room modes.


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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Where would the seating in this room be? Is it just for one person?

Might agree it's on the small side, especially for a sub along each wall altho that could be fun.
 
Bucknekked

Bucknekked

Audioholic Samurai
That room is too small for a 5.1 setup. I consider 3.1 as better (or 3.2 as best) use of the budget.
I don't normally offer strong opinions like "your room is too small" for most types of answers.
Since I operate my dedicated stereo listening room in an almost identically sized room, I think I can say that spending the money, time and effort on a 5.1 setup in a closed room that small may not yield a listening experience that measures up to the expense. I love my little room as a 2 channel + a sub listening room.
There's a reason I didn't put a 5.1 in there. There isn't enough room for the surround to "surround".

Being as you said "good" theater room, I would perhaps invest in a great set of main speakers first, and add what might be left of that budget to a piggy bank and build as I got more $ instead of trying to do it all on that. You're going to need a subwoofer too.
What MrBoat is suggesting is what I would offer as a suggestion. Given the size of the space and the limited budget, start with 2 channel mains + a small sub and see how you like it. If done properly, it should sound pretty awesome. If you get the basics working, it should tell you from the listening position if you can make surrounds really get behind you and really "surround".

For me and my space, I made the judgement that the additional investment wouldn't pay out in audio joy.
You may choose differently and enjoy the whole thing. Choice is what makes this a great hobby.

Enjoy
 
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MrBoat

Audioholic Ninja
I'm too old fashioned to be offering much in the way of information here. I have a hard time imagining an averaged out kit of surround speakers. I keep forgetting this is the computer age where these things can be modeled effectively. Every time I think of a kit of audio, the brand KMC, Emerson or Audiovox comes to mind with really thin plastic boxes.
 
Pedro Alvarado

Pedro Alvarado

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hi kevin83 just get a home theater in a box and enjoy :)



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hi kevin83 just get a home theater in a box and enjoy :)



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HTIB is probably okay for 80% of people...this AH board represents the other 20%...lol

He's already got a AVR so he can probably do better with 1600.

I like the HSU option...the OP could do 3 of the CCB8s across the front with a VTF2mk5 sub...with his $1600 and add in a pr of side rears later like the Hb-1 mk2 for another $250 or so.

If performance matters at all, I would take that option for $250 more over most any HTIB that I've seen or heard.
 
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shadyJ

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HTIB is probably okay for 80% of people...this AH board represents the other 20%...lol

He's already got a AVR so he can probably do better with 1600.

I like the HSU option...the OP could do 3 of the CCB8s across the front with a VTF2mk5 sub...with his $1600 and add in a pr of side rears later like the Hb-1 mk2 for another $250 or so.

If performance matters at all, I would take that option for $250 more over most any HTIB that I've seen or heard.
The CCB-8s alone could probably do better bass than some dinky HTiB sub, in all seriousness.
 
Pedro Alvarado

Pedro Alvarado

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HTIB is probably okay for 80% of people...this AH board represents the other 20%...lol

He's already got a AVR so he can probably do better with 1600.

I like the HSU option...the OP could do 3 of the CCB8s across the front with a VTF2mk5 sub...with his $1600 and add in a pr of side rears later like the Hb-1 mk2 for another $250 or so.

If performance matters at all, I would take that option for $250 more over most any HTIB that I've seen or heard.

the room is 10x11 here ya go kevin83 :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Definitive-Technology-Procinema-1000-System-Black-pro-cinema-1000-BRAND-NEW-/253174562350?epid=97942380&hash=item3af2613e2e:g:QpwAAOSw6ahZ1PdD



Sharp LC-60LE632U
HK AVR 3600
Def Tech BP 2004 TL
Def Tech CLR 2002
Def Tech BP2X
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