No bass turntable

[Ginoray]

Hi guys and thank you for posting my room on FB,my set up is about complete and everything sounds great except having trouble with my turntable Pioneer PLX-500.I have a NAD C-270 running 2 15inch subs when streaming music,or disc or watching movies my subs are pretty much set at a gain of 0,when using my turntable I loose bass I have to turn up the gain to almost plus 8,I hook up the PLX to SC-72 with line out coming out of table and also tried phono out and hooked it up to my VSX-29TX phono input than to my main receiver and I get the same thing my tower speakers sound great but my subs gain has to be turned up,I am lost can't figure it out hope I didn't confuse you

 

[lovinthehd]

Gain set where, in the avr or on the sub? What subs? Vinyl isn't a great source of sub bass IMO. Are you using different dsp settings for streaming/movies and are comparing the same content at the same level (which can be hard to determine informally, especially with various sources)?

 

[Ginoray]

Gain on on AVR goes from -10 to 0 being in the middle to +10 at its highest volume,my subs are passive 15 inch woofers using a NAD 2 channel amp and I set my gain setting at rear of amp at 2 o'clock level,as far as my settings when listening to music pretty much is always the same mainly 2 channel audio even when I put an audio CD in it sounds great I don't have to turn up the gain on subs I leave it alone I have been buying more vinyl and have noticed this every time I play my vinyl I loose gain on my subs and have to turn the gain up on sub level to +8 or 9 just doesn't make sense

 

[lovinthehd]

What are you listening to particularly? Is the overall audio level lower with vinyl or just what you expect via the subs?

 

[Ginoray]

I listen to everything from Soundtracks,Rock dance pretty much everything but country music (sorry)audio level in general is a bit lower when playing vinyl but not much I don't get any rumble or noise from TT at a louder volume so i guess that's a plus the only thing I haven't tried is a phono preamp

 

[KEW]

Can you identify what instruments (or better, what frequencies) are being effected by this?
If you have towers that are not affected, does that mean the affected frequencies are below the bottom of your tower's range, or are you saying that the same frequencies that are strong from your towers are weal from the subs?

Try these 2 settings and let us know the result:
1) Set your speakers to small to see if forcing all bass to your sub makes a difference.
2) Set your front speakers to "LARGE" and the sub to "PLUS"
Obviously, you don't get a LFE channel out of the turntable, so you need to make sure your AVR is set to route the bass from the stereo channels to the subs.

 

[KEW]

I listen to everything from Soundtracks,Rock dance pretty much everything but country music (sorry)audio level in general is a bit lower when playing vinyl but not much I don't get any rumble or noise from TT at a louder volume so i guess that's a plus the only thing I haven't tried is a phono preamp

Any chance that the TT has a rumble filter built into it?
This filter would probably start rolling off around 40Hz. It would be obvious if the music you listen to has low frequency synthisizer, organ, etc. But not so obvious on most acoustic music.

 

[TLS Guy]

That is a DJ scratch turntable. It will have a rough and tumble low compliance rugged cartridge. It won't have much bass.

If you are not using it as a scratch turntable then get this cartridge, and your problems will be solved.

 

[lovinthehd]

I listen to everything from Soundtracks,Rock dance pretty much everything but country music (sorry)audio level in general is a bit lower when playing vinyl but not much I don't get any rumble or noise from TT at a louder volume so i guess that's a plus the only thing I haven't tried is a phono preamp

You have already tried a phono preamp, two of them.

I meant how are you comparing the same specific bass content tracks to each other via different sources? How are you level matching? What cartridge are you using?

 

[Ginoray]

That is a DJ scratch turntable. It will have a rough and tumble low compliance rugged cartridge. It won't have much bass.

If you are not using it as a scratch turntable then get this cartridge, and your problems will be solved.

Yes you are correct it is a DJ turntable and I think you are right about the cartridge thanks for the info