New and need Receiver help

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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
i have the following

Yamaha NS‑C444 Center Channel speaker
Yamaha NS‑555 Floor Standing speaker
a 80 watt per channel receiver from my old home theater in a box and my rears are still the 80 watts that came with the old system.

this receiver cant feed these speakers and i think i went to far with this speakers so now im looking for something that will do them justice. id like to stay in the $300 range if at all godly possible or even maybe just get an 3 channel amp...? is that even an option? im really lost with all this bit did see in the for sale that a yamaha rxv1800 is for sale and was thinking that this might be a good option?

please help me, oh and i just use the set up to watch things on my firestick or xbox, nothing fancy
 
-Jim-

-Jim-

Audioholic Field Marshall
Welcome to the Forum.

Most here are into Denon or Marantz Receivers with a few into Yamaha. At your price point I'd recommend you buy a Denon AVR-920W from Accessories4Less if you need a new receiver.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs920w/denon-avr-s920w-7.2-ch-x-90-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html

I have Denon AVR-900W and it's an impressive box. After getting your existing speakers powered correctly, I also suggest you next move would be to a good Subwoofer. IMHO it's more important than improving your Rears.

The rest of the folks here will definitely chime in with their opinions.;)
 
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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
Welcome to the Forum.

Most here are into Denon or Marantz Receivers with a few into Yamaha. At your price point I'd recommend you buy a Denon AVR-920W from Accessories4Less if you need a new receiver.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs920w/denon-avr-s920w-7.2-ch-x-90-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html

I have Denon AVR-900W and it's an impressive box. After getting your existing speakers powered correctly, I also suggest you next move would be to a good Subwoofer. IMHO it's more important than improving your Rears.

The rest of the folks here will definitely chime in with their opinions.;)
Jim maybe you can help me understand, my speakers need 100watts continuously so will this still work if it's 90?? I've been looking at much larger wattage units and am now thinking I've been going about it all wrong. I'm almost certain I'm going to by the unit you suggest but just trying to better understand

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everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
Your speakers do not need a 100w continuously. Normally just a couple of watts. Don't read into rms rays as they are meaningless
 
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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
Your speakers do not need a 100w continuously. Normally just a couple of watts. Don't read into rms rays as they are meaningless
Ok, thank you

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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
I currently have a yamaha htr 3063, it's just so quite so homing the one above makes a nice improvement

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everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
I currently have a yamaha htr 3063, it's just so quite so homing the one above makes a nice improvement

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Depending on your listening habits and seating distance from the speakers, the specs from Yamaha rate them at 6ohms nominal and a sensitivity of 89db, so they should be an easy load for most AVRs. I'll see if I can find 3rd party measurements to verify
 
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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
So this might be part of my issue as well, the ohms. I see how ohms effect watts on different units. Idk what all this means, I just plug in the basic speaker wire into my speaker and call it a day, idk if I'm supposed to be doing something else

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everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
There are many articles here on the main site, I'd start there for learning and if you have questions then post them. As for Ohms , it will vary with speakers across their response, meaning not the same at all frequencies.

So this might be part of my issue as well, the ohms. I see how ohms effect watts on different units. Idk what all this means, I just plug in the basic speaker wire into my speaker and call it a day, idk if I'm supposed to be doing something else

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-Jim-

-Jim-

Audioholic Field Marshall
Can you advise what the distances are to each speaker and what gauge of wire you are using to connect them to the receiver? Too small a gauge will inhibit the signal to the speakers if it's a long run.

For loudness it's more about Sensitivity, combined with the nominal output of the amplifier section of a home theater receiver (we typically abbreviate these as AVR). Think of Sensitivity as how efficient a speaker converts a signal from the AVR into sound. Some speakers are far better at this than others. With better sensitivity less power needed to create the same loudness.

The nominal value is put on speakers in ohms by the OEM. Ohms is the value given to measuring the resistance (impedance) a speaker has to a signal from the AVR - the higher the value the less output from an amplifier. Problems arise when an amplifier if not stable if the nominal value is too low (like 2 Ohms - some AVRs say anything less than 6 Ohms). Until recently most amplifiers gave their output value in watts when connected to 8 & 4 ohm speakers. Now they use 6 ohms and sometimes don't bother to advise the others, which can confuse folks.

You need to all match this for a system to work to it's potential, but you can connect say an 80 watt AVR to a 100 watt speaker and it can work just great. It just won't go as loud as it would with the full 100 watts. But most of the time, especially if you use a Sub, you pull far, far less that 80 watts from the AVR.

The only specs I could find on your yamaha htr 3063 is: 100 Watt - 6 Ohm - at 1 kHz - THD 0.9% - 5 channels (surround). And if this unit is functioning correctly to spec it should have enough power for your new speakers.
 
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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
I feel like I can't hear anything out or my system, and I have to have it almost turned all the way up to hear voice. I sit maybe 8-10 ft from the center and sides . Something else I have noticed and this just started about a week ago and I've had this AVR for about 6 years is the display only shows PCM no matter what setting I out it into. And no matter what the source is

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-Jim-

-Jim-

Audioholic Field Marshall
Sounds like your yamaha htr 3063 is now a brick. Make certain of it before it gets recycled.

For speakers that close I'd use 14 AWG (American Wire Gauge) but you can get by with smaller.

I bet if (when?) you get the Denon AVR-920W from Accessories4Less you'll be telling us how great your system sounds. I hope it all goes well for you. ;)
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I feel like I can't hear anything out or my system, and I have to have it almost turned all the way up to hear voice. I sit maybe 8-10 ft from the center and sides . Something else I have noticed and this just started about a week ago and I've had this AVR for about 6 years is the display only shows PCM no matter what setting I out it into. And no matter what the source is

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Does your Yamaha have a microprocessor/system reset routine mentioned in the manual? Might even just try a simple soft reset (unplugging it for a while then plugging it back in), to see if that changes anything.
 
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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
Has to be unplugged for 5 days

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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Has to be unplugged for 5 days

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Never saw that reset advice before...5 minutes maybe. Downloaded the manual and nothing comes up under reset, what page is the reset instruction/advice on?
 
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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
I was told by a Yamaha rep years ago

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cruzscarwash

Enthusiast
Idk, customer service rep..lol

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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Idk, customer service rep..lol

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Oh yeah, those guys are on top of technical issues, lol.

PS I do see a reference in the troubleshooting section as to unplugging it....for 30 seconds.
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
I think you should consider new speakers before a receiver if improving sound quality is the goal. As already stated, Most speakers will only use a couple of watts for normal listening levels. The 100w rating on your speakers is more of a melting point for the crossovers. I doubt your speakers would handle 100w for long before they self destruct.

*Edit: Missed some of the posts. Didn't see the other issues with your receiver.
 
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