need quick help you guys please

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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
so I'm new to my receiver and i had a couple of questions i was hoping some of you guys can help me out


so before i used to have a pioneer 5.1 receiver and not to long ago a friend of mine let me have a

yamaha rx-a710 7.1 receiver and i set up all 7.1 channels


now my question is when ever i watch a blue ray movie on my ps4 for some reason i get the option to change my surround decoder from dolby pro or neo 6 etc. but once the movie cuts on it doesn't let me change it any more it just says straight


if a pause the movie then i can go back and forth changing options but once i start the movie again it says option not available and it just says straight ...


does that mean that I'm still on the previous setting i left it on for example pro iix

in my old receiver i was able to watch youtube on neo6 or what ever i wanted and now it doesn't let me


why is that? or am i doing something wrong.

or am i really getting the full effect.

for example yesterday i was watching xXx: Return of Xander Cage and it said 7.1 dolby atmos but i believe my receiver doesn't have atmos setting but i do have 7.1


i mean the movie sounded great all 7 speakers where sounding great and it wasn't sounding like stereo mode

i just wanted to make sure i was doing this correctly and I'm using my receiver and watching movies correctly



would really speciate the help you guys ....



again i have a yamaha aventage rx-a710

basically would like to know if my surround decoder is actually activated while watching a movie .


also if the movie is atmos 7.1 and i don't have atmos but do have 7.1 dolby true hd etc. what happens then ?


and i forgot to mention i do have my ps4 on my output settings to 7.1 channel and its also on dolby bitstream
 
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shadyJ

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Your surround decoder is activated during the movie. The AVR is only playing back the movie's sound mix. You might be able to engage certain types of processing on that, but I don't think you wantt to do that.

As long as your blu-ray player supports Dolby TrueHD, it will be able to play sound from Atmos discs. Same is true for DTS:X, so long as your system is able to play DTS-HD Master Audio tracks.
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
Your surround decoder is activated during the movie. The AVR is only playing back the movie's sound mix. You might be able to engage certain types of processing on that, but I don't think you wantt to do that.

As long as your blu-ray player supports Dolby TrueHD, it will be able to play sound from Atmos discs. Same is true for DTS:X, so long as your system is able to play DTS-HD Master Audio tracks.

ok i see so basically the receiver does it all on its own and for example each blue ray movie has there own setting basically and the av receiver will automatic get to that setting



so i should basically put the setting at surround decoder or where exactly should i leave the setting set to


i have a yamaha aventage rx-a710
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
like for example these are some settings to choose from
 

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shadyJ

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ok i see so basically the receiver does it all on its own and for example each blue ray movie has there own setting basically and the av receiver will automatic get to that setting



so i should basically put the setting at surround decoder or where exactly should i leave the setting set to


i have a yamaha aventage rx-a710
Yes, the AVR is automatically using the setting that the source player is sending it. If I were you, I would leave the AVR's setting on 'straight, ' at least for any movies. Any other setting adds an articificial layer of processing. But who knows, you might like them better. Use whatever sounds best to your ears, although just remember that anything other than 'straight' is essentially a deliberate distortion of the original content.
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
Yes, the AVR is automatically using the setting that the source player is sending it. If I were you, I would leave the AVR's setting on 'straight, ' at least for any movies. Any other setting adds an articificial layer of processing. But who knows, you might like them better. Use whatever sounds best to your ears, although just remember that anything other than 'straight' is essentially a deliberate distortion of the original content.


ok ok i see now I'm starting to get it

so i leave it on straight and say for example i put a 7.1 true hd mastered movie the av will automatic run that setting on my receiver aswell and will give the best audio quality for that movie..


ok thanks for your help

i thought before in order for me to get the full effect i had to have it in one of those movie modes etc.
 
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shadyJ

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ok ok i see now I'm starting to get it

so i leave it on straight and say for example i put a 7.1 true hd mastered movie the av will automatic run that setting on my receiver aswell and will give the best audio quality for that movie..


ok thanks for your help

i thought before in order for me to get the full effect i had to have it in one of those movie modes etc.
That is correct. In my opinion, it is best to leave it. I would stay away from those movie modes. All they do is add an EQ curve to the response and sometimes also adds a layer of reverb to the sound mix. It is very gimmicky and it sounds odd.
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
That is correct. In my opinion, it is best to leave it. I would stay away from those movie modes. All they do is add an EQ curve to the response and sometimes also adds a layer of reverb to the sound mix. It is very gimmicky and it sounds odd.


ok i see what about youtube say for example i want to watch a video trailer on youtube or a dolby trailer or so how can i get the full effect there

or it won't be possible ?
 
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Jake Franklin

Audioholic Intern
I also have a ps4 and there are three menus you need to check. First is ps4 sound, make sure it is set to bitstream, your preference on DTS vs Dobly or whatever your receiver supports. Next is the PS4 menu when inside of the movie play mode. Access this by pressing settings button on the controller while a movie is playing. Make sure it is set to bitstream (direct) . Finally on the blue ray audio menu make sure English 1, usually the best audio recording and it will tell you the format. (or in some cases you can choose between dobly atmos or DTS hd).

If your receiver is on surround decoder you should see whatever the audio soundtrack is displayed on your AVR. Straight should sound the same but I like seeing what I'm listening to.

Let me know if that helps.

Ps4 only plays YouTube in stereo (I know right...) if you're listening to music my preference is 7 channel stereo and if you want SOME effects set the PS4 to play in linear PCM and set your surround decoder to NEO 6: cinema or whichever one you prefer
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
I also have a ps4 and there are three menus you need to check. First is ps4 sound, make sure it is set to bitstream, your preference on DTS vs Dobly or whatever your receiver supports. Next is the PS4 menu when inside of the movie play mode. Access this by pressing settings button on the controller while a movie is playing. Make sure it is set to bitstream (direct) . Finally on the blue ray audio menu make sure English 1, usually the best audio recording and it will tell you the format. (or in some cases you can choose between dobly atmos or DTS hd).

If your receiver is on surround decoder you should see whatever the audio soundtrack is displayed on your AVR. Straight should sound the same but I like seeing what I'm listening to.

Let me know if that helps.

Ps4 only plays YouTube in stereo (I know right...) if you're listening to music my preference is 7 channel stereo and if you want SOME effects set the PS4 to play in linear PCM and set your surround decoder to NEO 6: cinema or whichever one you prefer


ok yeah i do have the ps4 settings to that i have it set to dolby bitstream my receiver supports both

ok yeah when i have it on surround decided when ever i play the movie the setting says not available and it says (straight)

and it won't let me add a surround decoded like neo6 etc.
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
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ok yeah i do have the ps4 settings to that i have it set to dolby bitstream my receiver supports both

ok yeah when i have it on surround decided when ever i play the movie the setting says not available and it says (straight)

and it won't let me add a surround decoded like neo6 etc.
It may be that the AVR will only allow surround processing like Neo 6 under certain signals like two-channel analog. Have you read through your receiver manual?
 
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Jake Franklin

Audioholic Intern
Okay, your Yamaha is a little different than mine. Does it have small lights that light up in different modes (DTS, atmos ect) when it goes into straight mode? Even if it doesn't if all the other settings are correct then it would be playing in atmos when it's set to straight.

NEO 6 and the like are only useful for changing 2 channel audio to a matrixed surround and mine only works off of that when I set my pS4 to LPCM in the main menu settings. That is the only way to get surround effects from YouTube
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
Okay, your Yamaha is a little different than mine. Does it have small lights that light up in different modes (DTS, atmos ect) when it goes into straight mode? Even if it doesn't if all the other settings are correct then it would be playing in atmos when it's set to straight.

NEO 6 and the like are only useful for changing 2 channel audio to a matrixed surround and mine only works off of that when I set my pS4 to LPCM in the main menu settings. That is the only way to get surround effects from YouTube


no i don't see any of those lights so i don't really know what mode is playing thats what has me a bit confused...
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
another question my receiver is a 7.1 but i believe it does not have the atmos setting

if i play a atmos movie what exactly happens ?
 
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Jake Franklin

Audioholic Intern
Atmos And DTS X are based off of their predisessors True HD and HD MA. Either one will adjust to those if the receiver is not comparable with the new format as far as I understand it.
 
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Jake Franklin

Audioholic Intern
Just checked the instructions for your AVR, you have it right when it's on the straight setting. If you want to change the display to show what decoder is playing you should be able to by pressing the "info" button on your remote.
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
Just checked the instructions for your AVR, you have it right when it's on the straight setting. If you want to change the display to show what decoder is playing you should be able to by pressing the "info" button on your remote.

i just noticed that earlier i pressed info while it was on straight while the movie was playing and it said dolby digital hd and it was on 7.1 witch the movie jack reacher that has dolby atmos



i just wish i can get a better effect while watching videos on youtube

when ever i watch videos on youtube or listen to music on spotify i just get a 2 channel setting

not even my subwoofer come on
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
thanks for all the help tho you guys really appreciate it ...


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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
i just noticed that earlier i pressed info while it was on straight while the movie was playing and it said dolby digital hd and it was on 7.1 witch the movie jack reacher that has dolby atmos



i just wish i can get a better effect while watching videos on youtube

when ever i watch videos on youtube or listen to music on spotify i just get a 2 channel setting

not even my subwoofer come on
Use a mode that incorporates the bass management/subwoofer rather than a direct type mode for 2.0 sources like youtube or spotify....there is no sub content in a straight 2.0 signal....
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
yeah i guess ima just change the mode when ever i use youtube or any other app


i herd vudu has HD movies including 7.1 audio etc. has anyone tried this app/ website
 
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