I will copy and paste his comments.
You mean like the supercube with "useable output to 11hz?" BTW a max SPL sweep prob wouldn't yield any useable output below 35hz. I'm not hard on companies inflating a little even though it's dishonest. But these numbers are ludacris. Why not just post what a speaker can do? Because false advertising sells...
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ALtlOff 
As for the title of the post, it's not that there's no love for DefTech, it's just that they've had there problems when it comes to purists.
Some people can't get past the way they do there sub measurements, some people are simply opposed to bi-poles of any kind, and some people simply don't like a speaker with a signature sound that isn't completely neutral....
For those who like their sound, there's tons of love for the product and their unparalleled customer service.
As for me I'm simply a fan of not only DefTech, but any speaker that has Sandy Gross's signature sound, but that's just my personal taste, and everyone's is different.
See above on sub measurements. I owned BP860ST, 8040C, 8040SR, PM1000 seven channel system as my first real upgrade over a Onkyo HTIB. Sure it was nice to have speakers in locations and more bass but the sound wasn't any better than the Onkyo. Those aluminum dome tweeters cost Def Tech like $13.75, do we really expect any good sound to come from them much less anything near reference. I moved on to real speakers with limitless dynamics, BMS high frequency drivers, JBL high end drivers, etc. It's simply a whole different league of sound quality.
But if we are honest, yes even the men, are half furniture shopping when they buy speakers much less sound quality/performance.
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TuteTibiImperes
DefTech has been around for a while now, and they're associated with being mass-market Best Buy speakers. They're also part of a big corporate group that also owns Polk, Boston Acoustics, and recently acquired Denon and Marantz.
That doesn't mean they're bad by any means, but the smaller and newer ID outfits tend to get more love around here. The founder of DefTech, Sandy Gross, now runs things at Goldenear, which has garnered some positive press both here and at other sites, and makes products that are very similar to a lot of DefTech products in many ways.
There are just a ton of options out there when it comes to speakers, and most of them are pretty good or better. RBH/Emptek, Elac, SVS, and Q Acoustics seem to be the flavors of the day when it comes to affordable speakers that offer a lot of bang for the buck. Give it another couple of years and there will be some new obsessions around here to be sure.
If we compared DT's margins of 'cost of speaker' to the ID companies some would file lawsuits. Marketing wins in the audio world, look at Bose. They spend more than all other audio companies in the world combined! Yet it was revealed years ago a 'magical' 6.5" driver was a common $7.85 run of the mill driver from China...Marketing wins the money from peoples pockets. The ID companies have done well on the niche market of us who truly care about sound quality. Look at JTR speakers. You can get the 210RM model for $1999 and it has an $800 ultra high end BMS 4593nd-HE compression driver, two quality 10" woofers, hand built crossover by a pro, Baltic Birch ply cab. But it's an ugly black box... Def Tech charged $999 for that 8060ST with a HF driver worth two digits of $$$, see the point?
I'm sure I com across as a DT hater, I'm not. I was just disappointed to spend my hard earned money on crap in a cloth sock and piano black caps. But I chalked it up as my fault for not doing real research. Knowledge is power, competition drives up quality and prices down for all of us so spread the word!
See if you can follow it, because there are quotes from other member in there that might throw you off, but I think you can pretty much understand what he posted.
