Looking for a used AUDIOPHILE AV Receiver

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thxbest

Enthusiast
I am in the market to purchase a used audiophile AV Receiver. Price range maximum $800 for a used unit, the less the better.
The most important factor is the audiophile sound quality, sheer musicality that the unit provides, not the features. It should also have HDMI 1.4 at least and also Speaker A/B switch would be a good option as I have 2 different pair of speakers in the front, one for HT (Definitive Technologie BP 7006) and the other for music Magnepan MMG.

I know some brands like: NAD, ARCAM, ANTHEM, MARANTZ making good audiophile AV Receivers.

What would be the best option for a used unit?

Thanks for any advice.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
I am in the market to purchase a used audiophile AV Receiver. Price range maximum $800 for a used unit, the less the better.
The most important factor is the audiophile sound quality, sheer musicality that the unit provides, not the features. It should also have HDMI 1.4 at least and also Speaker A/B switch would be a good option as I have 2 different pair of speakers in the front, one for HT (Definitive Technologie BP 7006) and the other for music Magnepan MMG.

I know some brands like: NAD, ARCAM, ANTHEM, MARANTZ making good audiophile AV Receivers.

What would be the best option for a used unit?

Thanks for any advice.
If I were in your situation and wanting a high-quality used AVR, I would be looking right at the Denon 4520!

Done!
 
tyhjaarpa

tyhjaarpa

Audioholic Field Marshall
I would get the Denon / Marantz / Yamaha that has all the features you need. I personally like Marantz/Denon for Audyssey and as you have good budget you can look for top end models used.
 
T

thxbest

Enthusiast
I would get the Denon / Marantz / Yamaha that has all the features you need. I personally like Marantz/Denon for Audyssey and as you have good budget you can look for top end models used.
Would you tell a Denon / Marantz / Yamaha unit outperform NAD in sound quality and musicality?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
NAD does not have any particular claim to SQ. Musicality is a useless term for audio gear IMO.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Would you tell a Denon / Marantz / Yamaha unit outperform NAD in sound quality and musicality?
Stop sniffing the audiophools fumes.

The sound of your system is totally determined by the speakers. You won't tell one from the other with those speakers.

Having HT and music speakers really makes no sense. It is much better to invest on one good pair. Good speakers will do a good job of reproducing anything you throw at them. If they don't they are in some way compromised.

When you do pick a receiver make sure it is comfortable with four ohm loads. The Magnepans have an impedance slightly below 4 ohms throughout the range, but it is very close to a pure resistive load. They are also not very sensitive and inefficient. So they are known to cause receiver failure. You need to make sure you pick a receiver at the upper end of the range with a robust amp section.

What you really need to concentrate on is robust design and high build quality.
As an insurance I would make sure the receiver has pre outs, so you can add an external amp for the Magnepans, if needs be.

If there are minute differences in power and distortion but one unit is less likely to blow up, choose the one less likely to blow up. A dead system really ruins the quality.

Probably the most important factor to look at with electronics is build quality and reliability. That is also the hardest thing to get the handle on.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
An accurate speaker sounds good with all material, both movies and music of all genres, even the low budget recordings I sometimes listen to sound better on accurate speakers, and is where the bulk of your budget should go.

A receiver has no musicality. It's simply an audio/processor and amplifier, and the only thing a solid state amplifier does is increase the power of the input signal high enough to drive a speaker. I have an onkyo THX select 2 receiver and a cheapo sony receiver for a bedroom system. They sound absolutely no different, the only difference from an amplifier standpoint is that the onkyo has enough headroom to drive all 7 speakers to the 105dB peak required for reference volume in a medium large room, while the Sony would likely start distorting under the same circumstances.

When purchasing a receiver, the first thing one should do is figure out how much power they'll need to cleanly drive their speakers to the desired spl with enough headroom to ensure the amp can handle things like impedance variations. I like this calculator because it accounts for thing like multiple speakers and corner placement gain for subs. http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

A safe margin of error is to assume your receiver can only deliver 70% of its 2ch driven rating into all channels. Receivers with more robust power supplies are capable of delivering extra power for short peaks.

Once that's determined, the only thing that matters is features.

You claim you don't care about features but you need to decide what's the most important factors.


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