MusicCast, problems in connecting to smartphone.

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Malahai

Audiophyte
Hi!

I have a problem with connecting to MusicCast, any help would be much appreciated. I've been trying since yesterday to connect my RX-V679 to MusicCast app installed on LG G4. I did update firmware on amplifier as I had problems in even initiating "Connect" function, then I went through all the procedure, I have chosen my WiFi network, typed in password, it did says "connecting - waiting for connection 2/2" and then bam - error - 20315.

Anybody knows how to deal with that? I tried to find some info online, but could not find anything relating to this particular error. And what I am really trying to do is to connect my wireless speakers to amplifier, I figured out that MusicCast is the only way of doing this wireless.

Thanks,

Mike
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Hi!

I have a problem with connecting to MusicCast, any help would be much appreciated. I've been trying since yesterday to connect my RX-V679 to MusicCast app installed on LG G4. I did update firmware on amplifier as I had problems in even initiating "Connect" function, then I went through all the procedure, I have chosen my WiFi network, typed in password, it did says "connecting - waiting for connection 2/2" and then bam - error - 20315.

Anybody knows how to deal with that? I tried to find some info online, but could not find anything relating to this particular error. And what I am really trying to do is to connect my wireless speakers to amplifier, I figured out that MusicCast is the only way of doing this wireless.

Thanks,

Mike
I'm not used to that system and you are right Yamaha's site is short on information.

However I think your problem is trying to connect your speakers wirelessly to your receiver. As far as I can tell the speakers have to be proprietary Yamaha Musicast speakers.

Call Yamaha!
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Hi!

I have a problem with connecting to MusicCast, any help would be much appreciated. I've been trying since yesterday to connect my RX-V679 to MusicCast app installed on LG G4. I did update firmware on amplifier as I had problems in even initiating "Connect" function, then I went through all the procedure, I have chosen my WiFi network, typed in password, it did says "connecting - waiting for connection 2/2" and then bam - error - 20315.

Anybody knows how to deal with that? I tried to find some info online, but could not find anything relating to this particular error. And what I am really trying to do is to connect my wireless speakers to amplifier, I figured out that MusicCast is the only way of doing this wireless.

Thanks,

Mike
What brand and model of wireless speaker?

The AVR has Musicast, but that doesn't mean wireless speakers will work with it if they're not made by/for Yamaha. If they're Yamaha and MusiCast-enabled, read the manual. Nobody wants to read the manual, they only want to look online and find it immediately. The info won't help if you don't actually understand the system and its requirements.

Speaking of requirements, you seem to be ignoring the biggest one- your network. Your equipment needs to be near the router or an access point that can send/receive a strong signal, for two main reasons- first, it needs to be close enough to receive the signal in the first place and second, because low signal strength equals slow speed. Also, if you have a lot of network traffic, it doesn't work well. In addition, WiFi CAN'T be as fast as a wired connection.

If you really want to see the network speed and find a solution to the WiFi issues, download Inssider on a laptop computer and look at the networks near you- you may have several on the same channel, it will show your signal strength, you can compare your network's security settings with the rest of your equipment to see if some kind of conflict exists.

Everyone sells wireless as the best/easiest way to do this stuff and IMO, the manufacturers are doing a huge disservice. They may be assuming that most of their equipment is being installed by people who know how to diagnose network issues and who know the intricacies of the AV equipment but that's not the case. If your router is in one corner of the house and the AV system is in an opposite corner and you have several walls between them (plus a big, horkin' refrigerator, fireplace, masonry walls and heavy building materials), your signal will not get there at a usable level. You may see a signal strength indicator that looks good, but you may not be getting the quality connection you need. If you have a laptop, do an internet connection speed test and find the speed of the connection to the router- on a Windows-based laptop, you would find the network at the lower right corner of the screen, right click and select 'Status'. This is usually in bold type, unless the connection hasn't been made and then, Status won't show up, at all. If you're using WiFi and you see less than 72Mbps with an older 802.11n computer and router, you'll never have good performance but you'll need to get some info about your equipment in order to know what you should see. Wired, a Gigabit connection should be 1.0 Gb.

If possible, hardwire ALL of the equipment in your AV system, especially if you plan to stream music and video. Since you want to use MusiCast, that implies you won't always be in the same room and if the WiFi isn't up to the task, your connection to the AV system will be lacking.

What network equipment do you have? If it's much more than about 4 years old, it's probably past its useful life unless it's hardwired.
 
M

Malahai

Audiophyte
Thanks for you comments guys but to clarify - speakers are not wireless. They are connected by wires. All I am trying to connect is AV with smartphone, so than I can sent music from system to my wireless headphones. In regards to internet connection I am using new BT home hub with very decent fibre optic broadband, router is located next to VR. I tried to connect VR via WiFi as well as cable, both gave the same error at the very end of connection process.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Thanks for you comments guys but to clarify - speakers are not wireless. They are connected by wires. All I am trying to connect is AV with smartphone, so than I can sent music from system to my wireless headphones. In regards to internet connection I am using new BT home hub with very decent fibre optic broadband, router is located next to VR. I tried to connect VR via WiFi as well as cable, both gave the same error at the very end of connection process.
MusicCast is probably vapor ware in that event. This sort of stuff is not the forte of receiver manufacturers, just a means of snagging customers.

Get yourself a ChromeCast stick and put in an HDMI port of your receiver and this problem will be solved. Google know what they are doing, Yamaha likely don't.
 
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Erlend

Audiophyte
Thanks for you comments guys but to clarify - speakers are not wireless. They are connected by wires. All I am trying to connect is AV with smartphone, so than I can sent music from system to my wireless headphones. In regards to internet connection I am using new BT home hub with very decent fibre optic broadband, router is located next to VR. I tried to connect VR via WiFi as well as cable, both gave the same error at the very end of connection process.
I had the same problem and I was able to resolve it.
I have two wifi's in my home and my phone knew both of them, when MusicCast tried to connect to the one I selected in MusicCast, my phone connected to the other one as well, apparently this was the cause of the other connection being aborted. So I went to the settings in my phone, selected the other wifi that I didn't want to use and pushed to 'forget' button so my phone wouldn't try to connect to that one when I was connecting to other one in MusicCast. Restarted MusicCast, redid the connection procedure and it worked !
 
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Brendan Dempsey

Audiophyte
Hi,
I have Yamaha network receiver RN-602 with musicast. Very simple setup with the receiver and 4 hardwired speakers A/B. I was struggling with error code 101 for some time. It would work then disconnect and having to run the setup on a regular basis.
I am not an IT guru by any means, but I started to look into it on forums like this.
What I found was:
1-Went into my wireless router settings
2-Seen what was connected and to which channel
3-I seen that the receiver was connected to the 2.4ghz channel and my iPad and iPhone were connected to the 5ghz channel

I selected the Wi-Fi connection BTHub5 EXT2 which must exist on 2.4ghz and then I seen that my iPad was now on the same channel as the RN-602.
Now its working with no connection issues so far. I hope that this is the solution long-term as it was very annoying and I was about to give up.

Was this the root cause or just a way to get around the problem?
What about the BTHub5...should I get a better router as I would like to extend the system to other rooms using the Musicast speakers, but am worried it may not work seamlessly. Any tips or advice would be appreciated.
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I had the same problem and I was able to resolve it.
I have two wifi's in my home and my phone knew both of them, when MusicCast tried to connect to the one I selected in MusicCast, my phone connected to the other one as well, apparently this was the cause of the other connection being aborted. So I went to the settings in my phone, selected the other wifi that I didn't want to use and pushed to 'forget' button so my phone wouldn't try to connect to that one when I was connecting to other one in MusicCast. Restarted MusicCast, redid the connection procedure and it worked !
If you're using an iPhone, make both WiFi network names (SSID) the same. If you don't, the phone will hang onto one for too long and Apple hand-helds are known for this problem. It 's sometimes called 'separation anxiety' and It has been described with "Apple hand-helds leave claw marks when they let go of a network".

Selecting 'Forget this network' won't necessarily work, especially if your router is an Airport Extreme or Time Capsule- I have seen this in action with an iMac and it's a total PITA, as well as a likely candidate for the reasons Apple is no longer developing network hardware. As a stand-alone router, they're fine but as soon as it becomes part of a more complex network, problems start. Adding to the insult, I was told by an advanced level tech support rep at Apple that Apple doesn't recommend, nor support, any network having more than two Apple network devices. This was the first time in over ten years dealing with Apple network problems that someone had the guts to say this and it has caused thousands of people/companies in the low voltage electric industry (like Custom Integrators) a lot of wasted time, lost income and frustration.

As long as you have two networks and they're not connected to the same switch or router AND on the same subnet, you won't be able to see what you need. This includes using the WiFi on a gateway (the modem/router supplied by the ISP) AND another access point (especially if it's a router with WiFi and it's not set to act as just an access point), you won't see the MusicCast. This is often because the router that's connected to the gateway IS NOT supposed to act as a router- this is called 'double NAT' and it causes conflicts in the network. If you like the third party router more than the one from the ISP, go into the ISP's settings and disable NAT & put it in Bridge Mode.
 
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