Is this a good way to spend 15K? New setup.

[chrismnj]

What do you guys think? what would be a week connection in this chain? this setup is used mostly for watching tv and movies, like to listen to music in stereo room size 16x30 9' ceilings room open to dining and kitchen very open concept, minimum of furniture and no rug at least yet.

1. tv LG 65EF9500 old flat $5000
2. receiver marantz sr7010 $2200
3. front L/R Definitive Technology mythos sts $3000 pair
4. center Definitive Technology mythos ten $1000
5. surround 2 Definitive Technology promonitor 1000 $500 pair
6. sub Definitive Technology sc8000 $1600

 

[KEW]

Put prices by each item so we can better see opportunities.

 

[chrismnj]

Put prices by each item so we can better see opportunities.

Done

 

[shadyJ]

Don't know about the TV, but the receiver is fine as long as you are getting a good price on it. The deftech speakers are a matter of taste, I wouldn't spend much on them, but they aren't bad as long as you are getting a very good price on them. The subwoofer, on the other hand, is terrible. There are much, much better options out there for the same price. A deftech sub in a room like that is like stacking your money into a pile and lighting it on fire.

 

[shadyJ]

Done

You are spending way to much for those speakers. You are also spending $1600 for a $200 subwoofer. I would be looking at Reaction Audio, for the same price they can get you a system that will annihilate that Deftech setup.

 

[KEW]

$15k is a nice amount to play with!
I would agree with ShadyJ that your sub is probably the weakest link.
For home theater with your open room, you really need something more powerful.
The Def Tech Sub is compact. That is a significant limitation if small size is required.
How important of a consideration is that?

PS: I like the 7010, but have you looked at last years 7009 to see if you need the new features of the 7010? If not, you can save about $500.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

You are spending way to much for those speakers. You are also spending $1600 for a $200 subwoofer. I would be looking at Reaction Audio, for the same price they can get you a system that will annihilate that Deftech setup.

Agreed. Paying full retail on DefTek is not great idea, especially buying full set - you should expect at least 30% off on package deal.

15k for HTS is a very healthy budget - most AH guests rarely even invest as much as 5k
Here are some of my thoughts:

1) TV - I think that despite OLED is clearly the future tech for displays, there three issues why I won't jump in it right now

• LG is not know for it's great product quality nor reliability
• OLED is very new technology and we don't yet of potential long term issues with it
• And last one is obvious one - as early adopter of OLED the price is astronomically high

I think you should consider LARGER and CHEAPER 4k TV panel from like Samsung for example:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN65JU7100-65-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B00T48CVYC

2) Receiver: again 2.2k is a bit too much of invest - This is better deal imo: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X5200W-Network-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00MJ9K6IG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449759548&sr=8-1&keywords=Denon+AVR-X5200W

3) Speakers - this is here you should event about 70-80% of you budget.
Have you heard these DefTeks and absolutely love the sound??
If you do - you can still get same form factor and very similar sound for less from GoldenEar Triton speakers - it's founded by original founder of DekTeks btw.

Alternatively you have LOTS of great options at this range. Here are some of good ones:

• Salk (btw: Salk SoundScape 8's so far best speakers I heard in my life regardless of price)
• Philharmonic
• Ascend Sierra
• Aperion Grand
• SVS Ultra

4) Sub - You do NOT have to match your mains and like mentioned above - you're better off buying from SUB Internet direct specialty companies like:
Rythmic, HSU, Reaction and PSA
SVS also makes excellent subs - but price/performance wise they don't compare well with above mentioned brands. They still have excellent quality, customer service and policies as well as warranty, but it's your call if these worth the extra 20-50%

 

[Seth=L]

@BoredSysAdmin

That's a very well thought out and nice response, to which I agree with completely.

@chrismnj

Good idea including the vote aspect, I believe that definitively answers your question (no pun intended ).

If you spend a lot of time listening to music in two channel I sincerely recommend you go for a pair of subwoofers and reasonably sized towers for your front left and right. I'd give some serious consideration to Salk Sound as BoredSysAdmin recommended. As a plus, for extra cost, the sky is the limit on what finish you want your speakers to come in.

 

[flyboylr45]

If you're after sound quality, I would take some of that budget and buy some nice acoustic panels. You said you don't have a rug so I'm assuming tile or wood floors. Reflective!!!!!! Treat the room and you'll be pleasantly surprised. I wouldn't have bought my system if I didn't have a dedicated room where WAF was never a consideration. My room is treated.

$15,000 is a nice budget. Curious to see what you end up with. Post pics when you're done.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I wouldn't spend $15K on those things.

 

[Seth=L]

Why haven't we heard back from OP?

 

[herbu]

Why haven't we heard back from OP?

Perhaps he mentioned his plan to his wife?

 

[flyboylr45]

Perhaps he mentioned his plan to his wife?

Now that's funny.

 

[chrismnj]

thank you for your advices! sorry i been out for a while business trip took all of my free time out of my life. just came across a good deal i could get 2 deftech super cubes 8000 in price of one would that be good enough? also i have ordered 4 di 6.5 r for atmos

 

[chrismnj]

Perhaps he mentioned his plan to his wife?

wife seems ok with the plan! she isn't so sure about 2 subs but its just a matter of time i will make it happen.

 

[chrismnj]

"You are spending way to much for those speakers. You are also spending $1600 for a $200 subwoofer. I would be looking at Reaction Audio, for the same price they can get you a system that will annihilate that Deftech setup."


$200 for supercube 8000? where did you see that? i would say you don't like deftech or you don't know what are you talking about

 

[ParadigmDawg]

"You are spending way to much for those speakers. You are also spending $1600 for a $200 subwoofer. I would be looking at Reaction Audio, for the same price they can get you a system that will annihilate that Deftech setup."


$200 for supercube 8000? where did you see that? i would say you don't like deftech or you don't know what are you talking about

You may want to click on the link to AcuDefTechGuy's system before you say he doesn't know what he is talking about. He has owned more speakers than about anyone in the world.

 

[Seth=L]

"You are spending way to much for those speakers. You are also spending $1600 for a $200 subwoofer. I would be looking at Reaction Audio, for the same price they can get you a system that will annihilate that Deftech setup."


$200 for supercube 8000? where did you see that? i would say you don't like deftech or you don't know what are you talking about

You misunderstood. He was using hyperbole. That's his way of saying that it's performance is roughly equal to that of a $200 subwoofer. He was not implying that there is anywhere you could buy one for $200, but he's not far off on the assessment that it's performance is equivalent to a $200 subwoofer.

I've owned the SuperCube I (the SuperCube 8000 is just a newer version that offers remote control ability and slightly larger driver compliment). I was very unimpressed with it. Tom Nousaine performed tests on numerous subwoofers and the SuperCube I was among them.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aBFaz_FO-Dm2aPqQW2Gvx49I27sEgZNZFnXt_1UyPlo/edit?hl=en_US#gid=0

The SuperCube I measurements - 30-120Hz +/-2.5dB and registered a meager 78dB @ 25Hz. The average SPL from 25-62Hz was 103dB with the maximum SPL of 109dB @ 62Hz. This is not very impressive, especially compared to what is available now. Compare it to the list of other subwoofers that Tom has tested and it's a complete wash. You could spend probably 1/4 of what those SuperCubes would cost and still get better performance.

http://www.data-bass.com/main.php?page=systems

Now Definitive Tech published a rather arbitrary spec of 13-200hz without any mention of a roll off point for the upper and lower limits of that subwoofer (that's the +/-2.5dB you see above in the measured response). They continue this tradition with the 8000 by rating it as 12-200Hz without any roll off point. This is also true of the rest of their products. They intentionally don't tell you this so they can inflate their numbers and it misrepresents their product to consumers (I know, I fell for it when I was naive to it).

In short, Definitive Technology's SuperCube subwoofers have one niche, they're small. Although now days you can get subwoofers that are not much bigger (maybe 20% larger) and get a huge increase in performance.

Now if you have never had a really good subwoofer then these might sound really good to you. But if someone stopped by with an HSU VTF-15 and put it in your system for a trial after you've had those SuperCubes you would wonder why the hell you spent so much on them. I guaranty you that.

 

[Seth=L]

Just as an example. The BIC PL-200 has more overall output, better uniformity, and more extension.

http://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00OFXV5IO

 

[chrismnj]

You misunderstood. He was using hyperbole. That's his way of saying that it's performance is roughly equal to that of a $200 subwoofer. He was not implying that there is anywhere you could buy one for $200, but he's not far off on the assessment that it's performance is equivalent to a $200 subwoofer.

I've owned the SuperCube I (the SuperCube 8000 is just a newer version that offers remote control ability and slightly larger driver compliment). I was very unimpressed with it. Tom Nousaine performed tests on numerous subwoofers and the SuperCube I was among them.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aBFaz_FO-Dm2aPqQW2Gvx49I27sEgZNZFnXt_1UyPlo/edit?hl=en_US#gid=0

The SuperCube I measurements - 30-120Hz +/-2.5dB and registered a meager 78dB @ 25Hz. The average SPL from 25-62Hz was 103dB with the maximum SPL of 109dB @ 62Hz. This is not very impressive, especially compared to what is available now. Compare it to the list of other subwoofers that Tom has tested and it's a complete wash. You could spend probably 1/4 of what those SuperCubes would cost and still get better performance.

http://www.data-bass.com/main.php?page=systems

Now Definitive Tech published a rather arbitrary spec of 13-200hz without any mention of a roll off point for the upper and lower limits of that subwoofer (that's the +/-2.5dB you see above in the measured response). They continue this tradition with the 8000 by rating it as 12-200Hz without any roll off point. This is also true of the rest of their products. They intentionally don't tell you this so they can inflate their numbers and it misrepresents their product to consumers (I know, I fell for it when I was naive to it).

In short, Definitive Technology's SuperCube subwoofers have one niche, they're small. Although now days you can get subwoofers that are not much bigger (maybe 20% larger) and get a huge increase in performance.

Now if you have never had a really good subwoofer then these might sound really good to you. But if someone stopped by with an HSU VTF-15 and put it in your system for a trial after you've had those SuperCubes you would wonder why the hell you spent so much on them. I guaranty you that.

well, thank you for explanation. I guess I might order them and listen for a while see how it is. its just like you said been looking at deftech spec and looked really good.