ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
So my computer has been ticking right along since changing to the SSD and continues to be fast but I seem to have a couple of new issues now.

At times, I will walk in my office and the computer will be unresponsive. The mouse, screen and keyboard is ineffective and I can't get any response unless I manually turn the CPU off and back on.

Secondly, I have this surging noise that sounds like the fan kicking on and then off. It occurs about every 8 seconds and the duration is about 2 seconds long. It sounds like I am revving up a car but the engine is a fan.

Thoughts?
 
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BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
sounds like Power supply and likely fan is dying. It could just PSU's fan - if PSU is overheating and causing the freezing issue.
Free fix - clean all the dust out, including fan blades - that should hold for few weeks, but if fan is inside psu you'll most like need to replace it.
My go to brands for PSUs: FSP, Sea Sonic, Delta

this might help a bit :
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-psu-brands,3762.html
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
sounds like Power supply and likely fan is dying. It could just PSU's fan - if PSU is overheating and causing the freezing issue.
Free fix - clean all the dust out, including fan blades - that should hold for few weeks, but if fan is inside psu you'll most like need to replace it.
My go to brands for PSUs: FSP, Sea Sonic, Delta

this might help a bit :
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-psu-brands,3762.html
So is there a certain size/wattage I need to be looking for?
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
Unless you have a gaming grade video card, 300-350w should be plenty
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
No gaming on my computer. So is the one Craig listed a good one from a good source or can we find a less expensive one?
 
adk highlander

adk highlander

Sith Lord
The one I linked shows as new. I have found others at recycling sites as low as 35 bucks but they may be hit and miss.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
The one I linked shows as new. I have found others at recycling sites as low as 35 bucks but they may be hit and miss.
I guess I can spring for the $53 one but we may have to get bread and water for a couple of days.;)

Is that a good company to purchase from?
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
I think you will have to get an OEM one due to it being a Dell. I have never had luck with aftermarket power supplies in them. Here is a link to one: http://www.etechnext.com/r850g-dell-300-watt-power-supply-for-inspiron-530-531-545-580-mt.-new-pull.html?gclid=CO-H-rn5qMYCFVM7gQodqyENGg

BSA may know better than I.
I went with aftermarket PSUs in HP usually without any issues, but YMMV. I am not that familiar with dells, but if the psu is anything but regular ATX sized or customized in any unusual (none-ATX) way - you're out of luck and need to Dell specific psu.

Update: Quick google search showed - my fears are well founded, dell does indeed use PSU format other than ATX - "TFX" actually according to here:
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19480252

this one should be supported:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151090
and Newegg should be ok with returns.

If this one fits - it would big improvement in terms of quality compared to what cheap crap dell uses.

I suggested open the case, remove the psu and compare general shape before ordering.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Yeah, my old Dell Inspirion Tower had an odd-ball PS too. Big pain!
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
I ended up just going with the OEM one and just now installed it. So far it seems everything is working as normal.

Thanks guys.

Have I basically built a new computer at this point?;)
 
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Tao1

Audioholic
I think you will have to get an OEM one due to it being a Dell. I have never had luck with aftermarket power supplies in them. Here is a link to one: http://www.etechnext.com/r850g-dell-300-watt-power-supply-for-inspiron-530-531-545-580-mt.-new-pull.html?gclid=CO-H-rn5qMYCFVM7gQodqyENGg

BSA may know better than I.
The physical dementions of a PSU may not fit in a Dell case, but all of the power connectors and power delivery specs are standardized. Ironically the cheap units that dell uses apparently don't deliver power to ATX spec http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=154.


The basic message (warning) I want to convey to everyone here:


Don't buy cheap power supplies, or any from a manufacturer without good reviews. Why? Anyone ever had a top end hard drive such as a Western Digital Black go bad within the warranty date? Odds are a cheap power supply came with your machine, sending voltages out of the ATX spec and fried it. That is the best case scenario.

Worst case: A cheap power supply can burn your house down!
These generally are the ones that come included in cheap cases, but it is always best to do some research before buying a unit.

Look up PSU models, or at least manufacturers on jonnyguru.com . They not only stress test units, they tear them down and inspect build quality.


Most people treat power supplies as an after thought, but you should still be getting a quality built unit to prevent system crashes, components frying, etc.

Cars are used as an analogy to computers some times, and the power supply is like the size of the gas tank and quality of fuel. These cheap units from unknown manufacturers are like running your diesel engine off of deep fryer oil. As the Mythbusters have shown that you can run a diesel engine easily of deep fryer oil run through a coffee filter. This doesn't mean that it won't kill your engine after prolonged use!

What power supplies are good to get?

Any of the $60 (more or less) 400-600watt units from Corsair or EVGA. There are a lot of other good manufacturers out there, but Corsair has a unit for every type of build, and EVGA is top end with unprecedented warranties. If you see a good deal on something else, look it up on jonnyguru.com first.

I personally recommend as a starting recommendation the EVGA 'Supernova G2' 750 watt units @$130: http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=10&family=Power+Supplies&chipset=750+Watts

"Now hold on....$130????!!!" Yes I hear you. I recommend it because it not only has more value in the long run, it is also theoretically cheaper in the long run due to it's 10 year warranty. Most $60 units only have 3 year warranties. Now warranty isn't everything, but the build quality of the high end EVGA units are superior to something @$60 so should about twice as long.

So for twice the price, you should get a unit that lasts twice as long (15 years or more by my guess), has more overhead in the amount of power it can deliver, and also has a 80+ Gold efficiency rating. I would have to do the math, but the extra power efficiency of these units over the $60 ones has to save $70 or so on the power bill sometime in its 10 year or so life span to pay for itself.
 
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ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Cars are used as an analogy to computers some times, and the power supply is like the size of the gas tank and quality of fuel. These cheap units from unknown manufacturers are like running your diesel engine off of deep fryer oil. !
My diesel engine is actually illegal now...Look up Audi 3.0 TDI...
 
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Tao1

Audioholic
My diesel engine is actually illegal now...Look up Audi 3.0 TDI...
Imagine taking an emissions test on deep fryer oil. The Mythbusters didn't go into too much detail on that end, other than it was significantly less fuel efficient....which didn't matter since it was essentially free lol.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Imagine taking an emissions test on deep fryer oil. The Mythbusters didn't go into too much detail on that end, other than it was significantly less fuel efficient....which didn't matter since it was essentially free lol.
Agreed on the PS. PS is the MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT of any amplifier and many other electronics too. And yes, spend the $ for a good computer power supply and be done with it!
 

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